InvincibleHero wrote...
1. It still takes seconds to sight and fire something you don't deal with on the carnifex. I only use scopes on snipers. Everything else I am skilled enough to headshot without. This means more shots per minute and more damage. You trade that off when you use a krysae.
Of course you don't deal with that on the Carnifex, it's a pistol and doesn't come scoped standard.
Put a scope on the Carnifex, however, and your effective range increases as you get a better optic to work with for zoom shots.
2. Not bad it is pathetic. So what if other guns are slower it is one of the slowest period and that can get you downed. Try using it on an engineeer without claok and see if that hunter will not kill you via stagger before you can even relaod. That is if you are not being shot by anything else.
I've used it on Sentinels, Vanguards, Engineers, Soldiers, and Adepts.
It is not bad, at all, and once you actually get used to its reload speed and
actively use cover/abilities to supplement the Krysae--things will change rapidly for you.
3. Valiant and viper are faster. It is at the bottom and projectile travel time is long.
It is not at the bottom, at all. I don't know what game you're playing, but the rate of fire is pretty fast if you're not dialing the scope in all the way every shot.
4. On a non- inf it takes three shots in silver now to kill a basic mob. I use it all the time I should know. If you think otherwise then prove it with numbers. That is without amps or taking damage evolutions. It doesn't do enough period.
If you're doing Silver or higher without amps or damage evolutions and using a gun, you're doing it wrong.
5. I'm glad you can see things like swarmers at your feet while in scoped. Even if I accept your point it means it takes skill to use properly which people are saying it does not. Fact remains it is very hard to pick a target out of a mob while with almost any other gun you can EASILY headshot at any range getting the bonus damage.
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here.
It's not hard to "pick a target out of a mob"--because with the Krysae, you're not utilizing a precision tool.
You're firing a friggin' howitzer at someone.
6. The range is not as large as people make it out to be. In use you're lucky to hit more than one and they take decidely less damage when you do hit more than one. Rarely do I ever explode more than one enemy at a time.
Then you're doing it wrong. I regularly see 3-4 enemies explode every few shots.
7. OK I admit that was poorly worded. I did not mean directly dodge like a warp but try to hit from the Hydra landing zone to the far spawn point and most of your shots will miss because they move.
It is easier to hit exactly any one single target with a BW or practically any other weapon than a krysae and that's a fact.
Gee.
It's easier to hit one target with precision fire than it is to hit one target with an area effect weapon.
Do you see the problem with this rationale?
To all the ignorant people that throw out skill or noob accusations i(mplicit or directly). Play with someone before you start insulting. Until then you have no idea other than making yourself look foolish. I don't say someone is bad until I have first hand knowledge and even then I don't waste my time doing it. I respect other people even if they aren't as good as me and I know there are better players than me. It is just a agme.
I don't cheaply stomp spawn points or rarely use rockets either to do so. Anyone can AI exploit. If I am with at least one in friends list we can finish level 11 gold with any class and never level 20s (for me) around 80%. We rarely camp and don't utilize the farm for FBWhite. I have three manned gold due to drop outs. People are really trying to say they are more skilled for not using the krysae. If you need the ego boost then go right on and keep thinking it just don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. I got a gold medal for headshots my very first game with the basic weapons. It is easy to do so and if you have an infiltrator and scope it is nothing to brag about at all. I never use extended scopes. Once I was pubbing for bronze and got dropped in a gold game wave 6 with a level one with no equipment amps. I had to be revived once and scored almost 45K.
These same supposed skilled people defend reload cancelling and use the claymore because it does the most damage and ignores shield gate often killing most in one or two shots. They will also rocket spawn points to kill the whole spawn. That takes skill now? Please. Let's drop the skill arguement because gold is not as tough or you're not great for doing it. I do several golds everytime I play. I'm no redjohn but everyone that plays with me happily joins games and we have great success because I can hold my own with any character class and build I bring. I did do poorly my first time with a scorpion on ex-cerb adept though only 45K in silver. 
Nobody's perfect.
I use the Raptor and Hornet regularly on Gold.
If that doesn't take skill, I don't know what does...
I should also add:
I will never understand why in the world this juvenile obsession with "no scoping" or even the silly impression you're giving off of "getting headshots with a scope is lame" exists.
If you're going to use a precision rifle--aka a "sniper rifle", use the bloody scope attached to it. The point of the gun is to deliver its damage to a specific target, not hose the area around it with gunfire.
Modifié par ntrisley, 01 juillet 2012 - 04:23 .
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