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Why Hawke can't go home?


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One thing i don't understand in DA2 is why Hawke must get away vanish in the end? Just go back home...can't go home? Hawke have a home, an estate, Hawke is a Champion of Kirkwall.

Kirkwall have no Viscount, have no law at that time, no Chantry and Templar is no longer powerful after Meredith dead, Hawke have no need to fear, Hawke is more powerful now with no rival. Hawke also have guards support under Aveline, also have companions suppoart, so must run away? Hawke is not guilty so why must disappear?

Why not just go home...? :?

Unless Varric is lying...

Modifié par Nizaris1, 30 juin 2012 - 10:45 .


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If you supported the mages then you lost the battle. The Templars respect you enough to let you get away, but they're not going to let you stick around in Kirkwall.

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i don't think so, they see how Meredith corrupted, even Cullen sided with Hawke, so what is the reason to run away?

Hawke is most powerful now in Kirkwall. He/She is not guilty in anyway. It was not him/her who blow up the chantry. he save Kirkwall from Qunari invasion, he help many peoples. So there is no need for fear.

Templar can't touch her in anyway, even Arishok and many more defeated by him/her...Meredith defeated by him/her...no one can defeat her now, he/she can even be a Viscount.

Templar is not the ruling party/regime...have no political influence in Kirkwall especially after meredith gone...Hawke is in highest position.

Modifié par Nizaris1, 30 juin 2012 - 11:18 .


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Didn't the Warden commander dissapear too , Just like Hawk , At the same time
I guess they've both gone of to get ready for DA3

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The Templars control Kirkwall. Nothing Hawke has done changes that.

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I assume that the Chantry and the Order of Templars would want Hawke's head on a pike for siding with the mages and defying Meredith's Right of Annulment. The Champion kills a plethora of templars and helps many mages escape from the Gallows. While Cullen may have not engaged Hawke for reasons that are never explicitly explained, I have little doubt that other members of the organization wouldn't try to make Hawke pay for what he did.

If Hawke is a mage, I don't see how he can achieve political power (realistically), given the attitude the law has towards mages. And since the templars run things in everything but name only (which was why the previous Viscount was regarded as little more than a figurehead), Hawke would still need their approval and support to become Viscount, which wouldn't be likely if he sided with the mages against Meredith - regardless of her crossing the line and going off the deep end.

Honestly, I never understood why Hawke stayed in Kirkwall in the first place. And since Anders kept telling my apostate Hawke that he should become a leader to the mages, I figured he had more important things to do.

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What happens if Hawke sides with the Templars. Does s/he still have to fight them off like s/he did when s/he sided with the mages...and yet still had to fight abominations?

Maybe Hawke just wanted to finally go. The place was cursed. Nothing but bad memories there.

Either way it was still Hawke's companion that blew up the Chantry and killed the Grand Cleric. They were going to at least arrest and question Hawke. I think Hawke made a fortuitous exit.

I don't think Varric was lying. Simply because in his telling Hawke was not the "Hero" of the story. Hawke got swept up.

Or maybe Hawke did go home. Went home and played some DLC for awhile in an empty house with no "examine" icons.

Then got kidnapped along with the Warden for their blood because someone's trying to awaken the old gods....

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Templar have no authority over Hawke, even if Hawke is a mage, remember that it is rebellion that taken place after that right?

The Chantry fall, the Circle fall, Templar fall...so what Hawke want to be afraid of? Even if Hawke is a mage, he/she is a noble in Kirkwall, and it is not like DA:O where title doesn't count because DA2 is about rebellion meaning Chantry law is failed.

He/She have a full advantage over Kirkwall. No one can steal Hawke estate, because it is rightfully his/hers. Templar can't confiscated Hawke estate.

If Hawke have to run away it is not "Rise To Power" then...it is "Fall To Nothing"

If the Warden is human mage, an Amell, isn't that make Hawke more powerful?

Modifié par Nizaris1, 01 juillet 2012 - 08:55 .


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Nizaris1 wrote...

Templar have no authority over Hawke, even if Hawke is a mage, remember that it is rebellion that taken place after that right?


The templars control eastern Thedas, and Kirkwall is their base of operations. Meredith didn't arrest Hawke, but it's possible that other templars would try once Hawke openly defied Meredith by protecting the mages. The law isn't on Hawke's side; as Cullen said, templars have "divine right" over mages. It's not safe for Hawke in Kirkwall, especially if he is an apostate. Remember how Rylock tried to murder Anders and the Hero of Ferelden in Amaranthine (during the expansion Awakening)? Imagine a multitude of templars trying to arrest or kill Hawke because he took down the Knight-Commander, killed countless templars, and helped the mages become free from the Gallows during the Right of Annulment.

Basically, there is no real "Rise to Power." Even a pro-templar Hawke who becomes Viscount doesn't have any real power - the templars have the real power, while the Viscount is nothing more than a figurehead.

As an Amell mage who has openly defied the templars, Hawke might have a better opportunity to rise to power in the mage underground, becoming a leader of the rebellion.

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Hawke is a criminal in Kirkwall, participant in an illegal (not only against Kirkwall's law but against Chantry law) rebellion and an associate to a terrorist (Anders).

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Nizaris1 wrote...

Templar have no authority over Hawke, even if Hawke is a mage, remember that it is rebellion that taken place after that right?

Yeah and the mages lost.

Unless you speak about the incoming war in which case the mages just aren't in a position to help Hawke.