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AkiKishi

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As an offshoot of the fixed protagonist theme if you have a name it should probably be applicable to both characters.
It's not the only way , what you save in lines not having to say the same thing multiple ways can be used elsewhere. But it is the most cost effective allowing for more real conversation branching.

Having said that does anyone have any favourites ? Different spellings of course is just a case of changing the text so not a problem. They just need to sound the same when spoken.

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I've always liked the name Sam for both males and females.

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Darth Vader was called Annie.....

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Chandra isn't very common, but pretty cool.

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Well, there are two different gender variations to my name; Jerry for a boy and Jeri for a girl. Not saying they should use that (although from my perspective that would be cool) but that they could give the -y ending or the -i ending to a name.

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I like Quinn or Morgan.

I noticed that Teagan is also on the list which would be a funny sort of easter egg.

Some French ones in case the rumours prove true.

Frédéric, Frédérique   Frederick, Fredericka

Gabriel, Gabrielle

Marcel, Marcelle

Michel, Michèle/Michelle   Michael, Michelle

René, Renée   Renee (f)

Modifié par BobSmith101, 01 juillet 2012 - 09:48 .


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BobSmith101 wrote...

I like Quinn or Morgan.

I noticed that Teagan is also on the list which would be a funny sort of easter egg.

Some French ones in case the rumours prove true.

Frédéric, Frédérique   Frederick, Fredericka

Gabriel, Gabrielle

Marcel, Marcelle

Michel, Michèle/Michelle   Michael, Michelle

René, Renée   Renee (f)


This is a really good idea.  Someone needs to run this up the flag pole and see who salutes. (Although Frederic and Frederique are pronounced different)

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:07 .


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It might be because it's 5 in the morning, but I don't understand. How does in save on lines?

People are going to call you by name, but it would still be the same amount of lines for when they called you by your title (Warden/Warden Commander) or your last name (Hawke).

Or are you talking about replacing all the pronouns like he/she/his/her with the gender neutral name?

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I'd been pondering what the next DA protagonist might be called. I think Hawke was better than Warden because it was actually her name at least.

I like the name Fred for a woman, as in Winifred. But I wonder if it would bother people if they couldn't choose a first name for their character.

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Urzon wrote...

It might be because it's 5 in the morning, but I don't understand. How does in save on lines?

People are going to call you by name, but it would still be the same amount of lines for when they called you by your title (Warden/Warden Commander) or your last name (Hawke).

Or are you talking about replacing all the pronouns like he/she/his/her with the gender neutral name?


I'm talking about different people addressing you in different ways depending on your relationship with them.
To use the Witcher as an example. You can be called various things. To be able to do that they need to be known in advance and therefore fixed.

White Wolf
Witcher - title
Rivian - where you come from
Geralt etc.

If you had a male and female protagoinst with different names, then you would need an individual line for each. A gender neutral name means you can use the same line.

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...
But I wonder if it would bother people if they couldn't choose a first name for their character.


Everything bothers someone Posted Image. I think the real gains outweight the imaginary loss.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:25 .


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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I like the name Fred for a woman, as in Winifred. But I wonder if it would bother people if they couldn't choose a first name for their character.


Since they are planning on going with a VO there will be a certain loss of character ownership anyway.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 01 juillet 2012 - 10:48 .


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I prefer fantasy names to real world names, personally. Though I occasionally cheat and use foreign names that are sufficiently unfamiliar.

And I'd prefer no set first name, please.

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I don't mind being called by the character's title or surname.
Personally, I wouldn't want my character having a pre-set first name.
Ruins the immersion, plus I like naming my canon character after me!:wizard:

Modifié par CommanderJessica, 01 juillet 2012 - 11:39 .


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Naming my character is an essential part of the roleplaying experience. Take away that and the character no longer feels like it's mine. Witcher 2 had this problem, everything about the main character was dictated to you, it's one of the big reasons I haven't been able to force myself to even come close to finishing that game.

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CommanderJessica wrote...

I don't mind being called by the character's title or surname.

Generally true, but it does feel a bit odd when the LI calls you 'Hawke'.

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Withidread wrote...

Naming my character is an essential part of the roleplaying experience. Take away that and the character no longer feels like it's mine. Witcher 2 had this problem, everything about the main character was dictated to you, it's one of the big reasons I haven't been able to force myself to even come close to finishing that game.


The character is not yours anyway. Just like changing Link to Bob changes nothing , so does using a first name that is never acknowledged by the game. It further causes problems because of the conflict between your imagined character in your head and the real character written for the game.

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CommanderJessica wrote...

I don't mind being called by the character's title or surname.
Personally, I wouldn't want my character having a pre-set first name.
Ruins the immersion, plus I like naming my canon character after me!:wizard:


I'd say being called Shepard or Hawke by all and sundry ruins the immersion more.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

I don't mind being called by the character's title or surname.
Personally, I wouldn't want my character having a pre-set first name.
Ruins the immersion, plus I like naming my canon character after me!:wizard:


I'd say being called Shepard or Hawke by all and sundry ruins the immersion more.


I know, I much preferred being called Warden (or Lady Cousland ;)), but surnames don't really bother me.
I don't really like Hawke much anyway. But knowing you chose your character's first name, even if it's never spoken, makes the character feel more like it's yours.

caradoc2000 wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

I don't mind being called by the character's title or surname.

Generally true, but it does feel a bit odd when the LI calls you 'Hawke'.

 

Yeah, that's true. Which is why they should call you pet names! Ha

Modifié par CommanderJessica, 01 juillet 2012 - 01:56 .


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BobSmith101 wrote...

I like Quinn or Morgan.

I noticed that Teagan is also on the list which would be a funny sort of easter egg.

Some French ones in case the rumours prove true.

Frédéric, Frédérique   Frederick, Fredericka

Gabriel, Gabrielle

Marcel, Marcelle

Michel, Michèle/Michelle   Michael, Michelle

René, Renée   Renee (f)


I like the idea Bob Posted Image. Great suggestions too.

I like Michel because it has no 'r' in it. This for the prononciation with an accent Posted Image.

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130 page views and not a single Jayne?  BSN, I am disappoint.

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caradoc2000 wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

I don't mind being called by the character's title or surname.

Generally true, but it does feel a bit odd when the LI calls you 'Hawke'.


No more then it would if everyone knew you by a nickname- like, I don't know, Anders. Or Fenris. Neither one of those are the character's actual names, but the LI will call them by each respectivly. Hawke is what everyone knows the PC by; it's essentially a nickname as much as it is a surname. While it would be cool to have a first-name-basis with some characters, it is absolutly unreasonable. Especally with the absurd names some people will inevitably grant thier PC. And while so many of the whiny, QQing fools in this thread are absurd, naming a PC IS a big deal.

I don't mind, say, Red Dead Redemption, where I'm playing as John Martson, period. But in a game where character naming, appearance, and development is expected- and I swear to God if even one person whines in response to this about Voiced PCs I will slap with you a fish- then taking away the ability to name your PC takes away from the game a bit.

Not drastically. But it would annoy me a tad, after two games where I could call my character Poo-Face if I wanted. (Not that I would, but point.)

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Fauxnormal wrote...
I don't mind, say, Red Dead Redemption, where I'm playing as John Martson, period. But in a game where character naming, appearance, and development is expected- and I swear to God if even one person whines in response to this about Voiced PCs I will slap with you a fish- then taking away the ability to name your PC takes away from the game a bit.

Not drastically. But it would annoy me a tad, after two games where I could call my character Poo-Face if I wanted. (Not that I would, but point.)


It's only an expectation if Bioware make it one. Like in DA2 where you get railroaded from one unwinnable situation till the next till you reach the same ending regardless of what you did. Contrast that with Witcher2 which while fixing the character gives you tremendous freedoms in how you deal with the elements of the story.

Even if you name yourself "Poo-Face" no one willl ever call you that. In Fable you could be called Arse-Face but that's another story...

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BobSmith101 wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

I don't mind being called by the character's title or surname.
Personally, I wouldn't want my character having a pre-set first name.
Ruins the immersion, plus I like naming my canon character after me!:wizard:


I'd say being called Shepard or Hawke by all and sundry ruins the immersion more.

I'd agree with you, if it weren't for the fact that, for 90% of my life, people addressed me by my sur name only. Well, maybe not 90%, but all through school, from grade school to college, I was addressed by teachers, students and friends by my last name, or some variation thereof.  Not to mention a few adjectives, and expletives here and there.  It was really fun in high school, since two of my teachers had the same surname as mine.  During my stint in the military, I was known as Rank Surname.  Even my second wife referred to me more as Mr. Surname than my first name.  At Ren Faires, I was Bard.  So there's no immersion lost for not using my first name, for the longest time, for me, on official documents, my first name was "R" anyway, where I had to sign it, anyway.

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Jerrybnsn wrote...

This is a really good idea.  Someone needs to run this up the flag pole and see who salutes. (Although Frederic and Frederique are pronounced different)


They are if you speak American English.  Not necessarily in other places.

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PsychoBlonde wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

This is a really good idea.  Someone needs to run this up the flag pole and see who salutes. (Although Frederic and Frederique are pronounced different)


They are if you speak American English.  Not necessarily in other places.


You could have a lot of fun with people pronouncing your name wrong.