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[Taboo]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You haven't played the EC yet. Okay, feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

"Through his death I was born"

You're terrible at this.

Even the Catalyst tells you this, and even explains to Shep how he can control them if he's dead

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Shepard dies. What you see is an AI based upon his personaility. 

He dies.

[jetfire118]

7 words...The only good reaper is dead one.

[wantedman dan]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

[Taboo]

I love irony. Thank you Daniel.

[mauro2222]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You haven't played the EC yet. Okay, feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

"Through his death I was born"

You're terrible at this.

Even the Catalyst tells you this, and even explains to Shep how he can control them if he's dead

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Shepard dies. What you see is an AI based upon his personaility. 

He dies.

I feel like I'm talking with a broken record.

[mauro2222]

Taboo-XX wrote...

The point of the endings was to allow you to pick what you want. If you want them repaired, they can be. This is why Bioware didn't show them blowing up.

Fair enough. It makes me feel better.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You haven't played the EC yet. Okay, feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

"Through his death I was born"

You're terrible at this.

Even the Catalyst tells you this, and even explains to Shep how he can control them if he's dead

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Shepard dies. What you see is an AI based upon his personaility. 

He dies.

His consciousness lives on. What is Shepard, his mind or his body? If the Geth are alive, and they're machines, isn't Shepard alive? Doesn't he, in fact, say that he is immortal? Yes? 

Yeeeeeah.

[Taboo]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

His consciousness lives on. What is Shepard, his mind or his body? If the Geth are alive, and they're machines, isn't Shepard alive? Doesn't he, in fact, say that he is immortal? Yes? 

Yeeeeeah.

No. He is imprinted into the new Catalyst. That's what the Catalyst means when he says "You will lose everything."

It's a copy and paste to an AI.

Whatever Shepard was as a human, dies when he/she grabs those rods.

The AI is a new being, based off of Sheapard's personality.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

[alienatedflea]

if we are talking morally...then both control and synthesis is the best moral option....Utilitarianisticly speaking...destroy and refusal are the worst...

[wantedman dan]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Thanks, but no thanks. I've had quite my fill of this thread.

I'm still playing GTA. I'm just a casual, passive-aggressive observer.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

wantedman dan wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Thanks, but no thanks. I've had quite my fill of this thread.

I'm still playing GTA. I'm just a casual, passive-aggressive observer.

Same, I just got tired of it.

[Taboo]

None of the choices are in any way moral. At all.

All violate some staunch ingrained societal taboo (ha ha).

You get to pick which one you get to violate.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 01 juillet 2012 - 11:29 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

[Taboo]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

He said some guy. Not you.

[agu123]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You haven't played the EC yet. Okay, feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

"Through his death I was born"

You're terrible at this.

Even the Catalyst tells you this, and even explains to Shep how he can control them if he's dead

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Shepard dies. What you see is an AI based upon his personaility. 

He dies.

[speculation]Can the AI based on Shepard's personality change its purpose or even its "moral" like EDI does?

Could a renegade controller become a paragon controller?[/speculation]

I don't remember the Catalyst ever addressing this.

[wantedman dan]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

So in addition to being a complete and utter hypocrite, you're now delusional and paranoid. This is priceless.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

His consciousness lives on. What is Shepard, his mind or his body? If the Geth are alive, and they're machines, isn't Shepard alive? Doesn't he, in fact, say that he is immortal? Yes? 

Yeeeeeah.

No. He is imprinted into the new Catalyst. That's what the Catalyst means when he says "You will lose everything."

It's a copy and paste to an AI.

Whatever Shepard was as a human, dies when he/she grabs those rods.

The AI is a new being, based off of Sheapard's personality.

So your answer, then, is that what makes Shepard Shepard is his body.

I understand now. It's just a fundamental difference in opinion in what makes a person a person. 

[mauro2222]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

His consciousness lives on. What is Shepard, his mind or his body? If the Geth are alive, and they're machines, isn't Shepard alive? Doesn't he, in fact, say that he is immortal? Yes? 

Yeeeeeah.

His ideals and memories lives on, but he dissapears.

If that doesn't convince you, listen to the new Catalyst.

Modifié par mauro2222, 01 juillet 2012 - 11:32 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

He said some guy. Not you.

I misred, I thought he said "same guy". I apologize. 

For the record, that guy is wrong as well - Geth are equal to humans.

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

I didn't say you, I said some guy, I'm to lazy to check calm down there buddy...

[alienatedflea]

Taboo-XX wrote...

None of the choices are in any way moral. At all.

All violate some staunch ingrained societal taboo (ha ha).

You get to pick which one you get to violate.

not really...was nuking Nagasaki and Hiroshima moral or immoral? (this event seems to be the one of the best related to destroy)

[Father_Jerusalem]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

I didn't say you, I said some guy, I'm to lazy to check calm down there buddy...

And I apologize. I misred.

[alienatedflea]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

He said some guy. Not you.

I misred, I thought he said "same guy". I apologize. 

For the record, that guy is wrong as well - Geth are equal to humans.

is especually true when the geth finally become AI's...

[Khajiit Jzargo]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Oh. You still haven't played the EC yet. Okay. Feel free to come back when you know what you're talking about.

Irony:

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Yeah. Like I said. I knew getting into this with you from the start was a mistake. No matter how much evidence we give you, you will continually dismiss, berate, and condescend to anyone who disagrees with you. 

There is literally zero point in ever trying to have a rational conversation with someone who continually refuses to be rational. I would, quite frankly, rather slam my head in a door than ever attempt to "converse" with you again. 

While I am hesitent to throw out the "troll" label because it is too oftentimes misused, it is quite apparent that that is precisely what you are. 

Good day, sir.

You should have been here earlier, some guy was arguing that Geth are not equal to humans.

Really? Kindly point out where, precisely, I said that.

I'll wait.

I didn't say you, I said some guy, I'm to lazy to check calm down there buddy...

And I apologize. I misred.

Its ok man, simple mistake.