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[Herr Uhl]

ReggarBlane wrote...

Is there some place that shows a Qunari female?

Also, what does a Qunari broodmother look like?

No and no.

I really want to know how they look.

[Mary Kirby]

elijah_kaine wrote...

Speaking of Sten it seems to me that there are certain things that you can ask him but if you ask at certain times you loose the option to ask him. Is that the way that works?

What I'm saying is whenever I ask him "Why were you sitting in that cage?" it's usually early in the game he refuses to really talk about it (he says "sitting as you observed") and I haven't yet seen the option pop back up again. I swear I remember getting a different conversation out of him with that question once, could just be wishful thinking however: .

For that option specifically: Once you get him to like you, it should reappear as, "Now will you tell me why you were caged?"

[elijah_kaine]

Mary Kirby wrote...

For that option specifically: Once you get him to like you, it should reappear as, "Now will you tell me why you were caged?"

Yes I remember that now. Can't believe I had forgotten but eh, it is finals week.

So, about Sten's sense of humor? Is he aware he has it? Does he try not to have it? I get the sense that Sten is very reserved about his humor. He's defenatly not up there with Morrigan and Alistar as far as showmanship of humor goes. Does he try to bury his humor, like he does his softer side?

[tmp7704]

Sten: i *am* smiling.

[Mary Kirby]

tmp7704 wrote...

Sten: i *am* smiling.

Exactly.

Sten's sense of humor is very dry.  He knows when he's joking.  You might not, though.

[Whailor]

Getting approval with Sten is actually easy once you know what "type" of a person he is. In my initial run through I don't think I ever got it above 20, but on following runs I looked more into it so to say and, well, approval flew up fast. This is actually with every companion, you need to talk them in their "manner" or "ways", not in your own way so to say and it'll improve fast. Just need learn more about them.



As for Sten then overall he's OK but in some cases I don't use him much. He prefers to do things often in very straightforward way and he doesn't understand the "diplomacy". Maybe qunari never needed it, they just landed and knocked the teeth of opponents out and done, but things work differently in other countries. Like when you use "persuade and lie" options to smooth out some situations or to turn them in your favor then Sten doesn't get it and mostly disapproves such actions. Due to his "black and white" view on things I at times limit his usage, he should learn that there's whole lotta gray shades between black and white and at times you need to traverse into the gray areas as well to avoid big mess. Though, at times his very simple philosophy about such things is humorous and I enjoy seeing it.

[JabberJaww]

Mary Kirby wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Sten: i *am* smiling.

Exactly.

Sten's sense of humor is very dry.  He knows when he's joking.  You might not, though.

"no"

[Herr Uhl]

The other Qunari seem to have a more "normal" sense of humor though. At least that is what I gathered in Sten's fade dream.

[elijah_kaine]

PC: "what were you doing in that cage?"



Sten: "Sitting as you observed."



PC: "Very funny."



Sten: *slight head tilt voice gets a little lighter "Thank you."



PC: "Your Impossible!"



Sten: I know. Parshaara. Is there anything else?



Love that conversation.



I also love



PC: I have a question.



Sten: "I am hardly surprised."

[tmp7704]

"What do Qunari have, then?"

"Little patience for endless questions."

[Den Late]

The thing I would really like to know about Sten and the Qunari is about the position of non Qunari in their society. Not just about the people not yet converted to the Qun but the people living according to the Qun who are not Qunari. From what I have read about them I get the impression that they have subjects who are regular humans.

[bobsmyuncle]

aerathnor wrote...

bobsmyuncle wrote...

Given that their religion/philosophy requires proselytization just as much as the Chant does, I'm not a bit surprised that they're planning another invasion. I'd actually like to see it. Mages would either side with the Chantry or try to break away all together, leveraging their utility against the Qunari in exchange for freedom. City elves would probably side with the Qunari unless they were particularly devout. Dalish elves would point and laugh. Dwarves would be too busy fighting darkspawn, but they might incorporate the Qun into their caste system if they had to.

The conflict between Chant and Qun seems too large for a DLC, to be honest. A plotline in a sequel, maybe, but not DLC.

Given how Sten describes the treatment of mages among the Qunari I don't think the circle would be too keen to support them.  The whole cutting out the tongues and blinding, not quite good if you ask me

Obviously, which is why I never mentioned an option of the Circle supporting the Qunari. However, the reason the Qunari don't own the continent from Par Vollen to Ferelden is because of the Circle. If the Qunari mount another invasion the Circle would be stupid to rush to the Chantry's defense like a guard dog without leveraging their necessity to their advantage. Such as giving them more control over their own selves.

Of course, due to shared culture, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if they simply rushed to defend their countrymen against the Qunari. I probably would, Sten's awesomeness aside.

[bobsmyuncle]

As an aside: Mary, I think you're wrong about Sten's appearance in a skintight leotard. I know Shale at least would be impressed.

[Aramintai]

I've always wondered one thing about Sten - since his name is actually a title and he requires nothing more, then how them Qunari Beresaad warriors are keeping track of all their stens and distinguish one sten from the other? Because as far as I've gathered the rank sten is not the rarest in hierarchy, so there are many stens out there. So when it comes to giving orders or otherwise identifying the specific sten how do they manage that?

Modifié par Aramintai, 16 décembre 2009 - 09:52 .

[Mary Kirby]

Aramintai wrote...

I've always wondered one thing about Sten - since his name is actually a title and he requires nothing more, then how them Qunari Beresaad warriors are keeping track of all their stens and distinguish one sten from the other? Because as far as I've gathered the rank sten is not the rarest in hierarchy, so there are many stens out there. So when it comes to giving orders or otherwise identifying the specific sten how do they manage that?

By company.  You're not going to have more than one infantry platoon commander in charge of the same platoon.

[Aramintai]

Mary Kirby wrote...

Aramintai wrote...

I've always wondered one thing about Sten - since his name is actually a title and he requires nothing more, then how them Qunari Beresaad warriors are keeping track of all their stens and distinguish one sten from the other? Because as far as I've gathered the rank sten is not the rarest in hierarchy, so there are many stens out there. So when it comes to giving orders or otherwise identifying the specific sten how do they manage that?

By company.  You're not going to have more than one infantry platoon commander in charge of the same platoon.

And how many companies there are? Do they have specific names? And if Sten was an entire platoon commander wouldn't it be better suited for a warrior of a scout rank or some such to go on a Blight investigation mission and leave Sten to his place in Qun hierarchy such as commanding duty in some regular invasion/war company?

[Mary Kirby]

Aramintai wrote...

And how many companies there are? Do they have specific names? And if Sten was an entire platoon commander wouldn't it be better suited for a warrior of a scout rank or some such to go on a Blight investigation mission and leave Sten to his place in Qun hierarchy such as commanding duty in some regular invasion/war company?

They have specific names. Beresaad is the name of his company.  The Beresaad belongs to the vanguard of the antaam, and the antaam does a lot of things that other militaries don't do.  They are the qunari diplomats, for one thing.  Also their surveyors, and foreign trade administrators.  Basically, if it involves dealing with the world outside of Par Vollen, the army is who they send.   Once a place is secure and no longer part of the outside world, they send in the non-military specialists.

They also don't treat rank the same way other races do.  The highest ranking officers of the antaam do the same tasks as the rank-and-file.  Qunari don't have much in the way of bureaucracy to deal with, and if you're a soldier in the qunari army, after all, it's because you have an aptitude for it.  Promoting you to a position where you no longer do any of the tasks you were put there to do would be silly.  Most likely, the Arishok hand-picked the soldiers he wanted to scout out the Blight.  I suspect "ability to speak common" might have been a requirement.

[Maria Caliban]

JabberJaww wrote...

"no"

Indeed.

[Jester8183]

Aramintai wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

Aramintai wrote...

I've always wondered one thing about Sten - since his name is actually a title and he requires nothing more, then how them Qunari Beresaad warriors are keeping track of all their stens and distinguish one sten from the other? Because as far as I've gathered the rank sten is not the rarest in hierarchy, so there are many stens out there. So when it comes to giving orders or otherwise identifying the specific sten how do they manage that?

By company.  You're not going to have more than one infantry platoon commander in charge of the same platoon.

And how many companies there are? Do they have specific names? And if Sten was an entire platoon commander wouldn't it be better suited for a warrior of a scout rank or some such to go on a Blight investigation mission and leave Sten to his place in Qun hierarchy such as commanding duty in some regular invasion/war company?

I think that why they sent Sten to investigate the Blight is they felt that Sten would be best suited to accomplish the mission and return.  From what I've come to understand of the Qunari they believe so completely in the equality of all under the Qun that the idea of keeping Sten safe at Seheron, because of his rank in the Vanguard, never crossed their minds.

Edit:  I am always a step behind this woman...

Modifié par Jester8183, 16 décembre 2009 - 10:24 .

[Mary Kirby]

Jester8183 wrote...

I think that why they sent Sten to investigate the Blight is they felt that Sten would be best suited to accomplish the mission and return.  From what I've come to understand of the Qunari they believe so completely in the equality of all under the Qun that the idea of keeping Sten safe at Seheron, because of his rank in the Vanguard, never crossed their minds.

Edit:  I am always a step behind this woman...

I'm quick.  Like the wind.  Or a bunny.  Or a parasailing bunny.  Something like that.  Also, you pretty much nailed the question with the above answer.

[Aramintai]

They have specific names. Beresaad is the name of his company.  The Beresaad belongs to the vanguard of the antaam, and the antaam does a lot of things that other militaries don't do.  They are the qunari diplomats, for one thing.  Also their surveyors, and foreign trade administrators.  Basically, if it involves dealing with the world outside of Par Vollen, the army is who they send.   Once a place is secure and no longer part of the outside world, they send in the non-military specialists.

Interesting insight into their military structure. Although I've yet to experience Sten's diplomatic qualities in the game, seeing him seemingly enjoying staying ignorant or dismissive of the customs of a foreign world around him (except for the "cookies" thing, of course), but a good stab of the big Qunari sword to the face might also be considered a diplomacy in a way...

Most likely, the Arishok hand-picked the soldiers he wanted to scout out the Blight.  I suspect "ability to speak common" might have been a requirement.

Yes, that must be it, if not the only one .

Modifié par Aramintai, 16 décembre 2009 - 10:35 .

[Mary Kirby]

Aramintai wrote...

They have specific names. Beresaad is the name of his company.  The Beresaad belongs to the vanguard of the antaam, and the antaam does a lot of things that other militaries don't do.  They are the qunari diplomats, for one thing.  Also their surveyors, and foreign trade administrators.  Basically, if it involves dealing with the world outside of Par Vollen, the army is who they send.   Once a place is secure and no longer part of the outside world, they send in the non-military specialists.

Interesting insight into their military structure. Although I've yet to experience Sten's diplomatic qualities in the game, seeing him seemingly enjoying staying ignorant or dismissive of the customs of a foreign world around him, but a good stab of the big Qunari sword to the face might also be considered a diplomacy in a way...

Most likely, the Arishok hand-picked the soldiers he wanted to scout out the Blight.  I suspect "ability to speak common" might have been a requirement.

Yes, that must be it, if not the only one .

There probably is a reason why qunari are not renowned diplomats...

[Herr Uhl]

Mary Kirby wrote...

There probably is a reason why qunari are not renowned diplomats...

Everybody else are unenlightened fools?

[Aramintai]

There probably is a reason why qunari are not renowned diplomats...

Maybe that's the problem with their grand infidels' conversion mission. Diplomacy brought on the edge of a sword does not always bring the desired goals. I wonder wether Qunari by nature can be flexible or able enough to see the need in improving themselves in the ways of cunning, tolerance and diplomacy. If they can then with their determination they may become unstoppable indeed in converting all of Thedas to the Qun doctrine. But looking at Sten that thankfully does not seem so.

Modifié par Aramintai, 16 décembre 2009 - 10:47 .

[T1l]

Mary Kirby; you are a legend. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain.