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[Forbry]

Xilizhra wrote...

nhsknudsen wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

What are your morals based on if not on what's good for life?

Synthesis are for people who are addicted to their Iphone and can't put it away for more than 20 minutes at a time.

Synthesis is bad on every level of morality.

Performing genetic alterations/experiments on an entire galaxy without their consent. // Hello death camps.

Condemning all life to never evolve again. // No chance to evolve to face new natural enviromental changes // Very bad.

Supposed immortality? // Yap great, except that does generates overpopulation and thus tension, conflict, war.

I fail to see how this is "good for life"?

Please explain.

edit: wrong word edited.

False equivalencies and just plain falsehoods ahoy, cap'n. Really, I should probably just redirect everyone to Ieldra's Synthesis Compendium.

Do you have a Iphone, because I -already- do not

[BatmanPWNS]

In synthesis, this is your neighbour.

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

[Siansonea]

Xilizhra wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

BioWare are Synthesis cheerleaders. Sex with girl robots and a complete rape of the galaxy's citizens' genetic code. What's not to like? /sarcasm.

You say that like genetic code is a sapient being that can be harmed. And the people of the galaxy certainly don't look like they've been harmed themselves.

That green glowy stuff and the artificial pacification of all races? That's harm, in my book.

[Forbry]

clennon8 wrote...

Really, I should probably just redirect everyone to Ieldra's Synthesis Compendium.

That is the more appropriate place to have this discussion.

But I wont be following you there.  Everytime I visit that thread and start reading, I get very nervous and start backing out very, very quietly, for fear that someone may see me and turn me green for my own good.

LOL... I begin to think that this thread is becoming the most funniest one at least 

[Alushadow]

Xilizhra wrote...

Alushadow wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

BioWare are Synthesis cheerleaders. Sex with girl robots and a complete rape of the galaxy's citizens' genetic code. What's not to like? /sarcasm.

You say that like genetic code is a sapient being that can be harmed. And the people of the galaxy certainly don't look like they've been harmed themselves.

i am sorry i do not recall someone asking me if i agreed to become robocop
that's just wrong thinking
to say "it cannot be forced" yet to force it 2 seconds later

It couldn't be forced until they had the right person to do so, I think, as Shepard is a required component for Synthesis by virtue of being a combination of organic and synthetic.

did they ask anyone if he is ok with being transformed by some space magic into a toaster?
i didn't see them asking anyone
so it is forcing since you don't ask or check
you just do it

[ghost9191]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

In synthesis, this is your neighbour.

http://desmond.image...jpg&res=landing

KILL IT WITH FIRE!?!?!?!?!?

would probably be the res[ponse of most, which would cause a decent amount hate crimes i guess
?

if they be alive that is, which hell?

Modifié par ghost9191, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:28 .

[JustKnowz]

Im putting in my 25 cents now.... Props to the HTL and all other movements that campaigned against that rushed-product which WAS ME3. The extended cut made a lot of sense and covered many issues... Props to Bioware for listening... You guys remember the movie Inception? At the end, was he dreaming or was he in the real world? There's the discussion. There are concepts that work well in a movie that dont work well with a video game. All in all, the extended content should have been in the original game--- all of this drama would have been avoided. Thanks to the movement and thanks to Bioware. BTW-- I think he was still dreaming-Inception. And I must prefer synthesis all the way.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Krunjar wrote...

No but there soon will be. There will be Cookies AND Debauchery. Sometimes at the same time!

@Dinosteve. Well I thaught you got one. And browsing these forums im definateley not alone XD

lol didn't see that.

But no I'm still waiting for one, and browsing these and other forums I seem to be in the majority, not only that there is a thread by a lit professor that agrees with me, not to mention that article I read with the book authors who all agree Mass Effect 3's plot is ridiculous.

[nhsknudsen]

ghost9191 wrote...


KILL IT WITH FIRE!?!?!?!?!?

would probably be the res[ponse of most, which would cause a decent amount hate crimes i guess
?

if they be alive that is, which hell?

Nah Hivemind tells you its okay to hang out and be friends, talk and bang..

Ps. still less creepy than attraction to Ipods/EDI

[ghost9191]

JustKnowz wrote...

Im putting in my 25 cents now.... Props to the HTL and all other movements that campaigned against that rushed-product which WAS ME3. The extended cut made a lot of sense and covered many issues... Props to Bioware for listening... You guys remember the movie Inception? At the end, was he dreaming or was he in the real world? There's the discussion. There are concepts that work well in a movie that dont work well with a video game. All in all, the extended content should have been in the original game--- all of this drama would have been avoided. Thanks to the movement and thanks to Bioware. BTW-- I think he was still dreaming-Inception. And I must prefer synthesis all the way.

he wasn't dreaming still, you could see the spinning top falling over just before it went black

Modifié par ghost9191, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:30 .

[Forbry]

ghost9191 wrote...

Forbry wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

The problem with debating Synthesis is that pro-Synths want to start with the result and work their way backwards to justifying the path they took to get there. Cheating at solitaire, as I like to call it. Whereas the rest of us are trying to start with the decision point and work out the correct path forward using contextual information. Arguing is pointless when the two sides are coming at it from such different angles.

I do not agree with that (surprise, surprise ) -and no, I do not going to explain why I don't agree- but I think in itself that is a very interesting thought/view. I will give you credit for that!

well out of the 3 options, destroy has less risk. well i believe so, so it would be the right choice unless you know how it ends, even then i still believe destroy is right choice just saying that ppl might look past the risk behind synthesis because they know how it plays out. i mean you put alot on space magic. but again just me

but synthesis just seems too perfect and happy it is wrong. i could go into details on why i dislike it but i won't because that is not the reason of this thread. some may argue that this thread has no reason, but it does it does   something about which iending is cannon. i dont care it is same , comes down to which ending is better and ppl trying to convince others that their opinion is wrong.   which is funny considering ppl that go with synthesis says screw you to ppls opinions

rambling lol

You know what? I will think about what "clennon8" wrote just a bit longer, maybe there is more truth in there, than I can see at this moment. I don't know, by heart, how late it is in your countries, but I'm way past my sleep curfew

[spirosz]

I thought Synthesis was the one Bioware wants, they even tweeted it heavily and defend it more-so than the other ones, but that's because it gets more attention than the other endings. Plus, it is all smiles and sunshine, Utopian, no?

But remember, there is no canon! (ahaha)

Modifié par spiros9110, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:31 .

[ghost9191]

spiros9110 wrote...

I thought Synthesis was the one Bioware wants, they even tweeted it heavily and defend it more-so than the other ones, but that's because it gets more attention than the other endings. Plus, it is all smiles and sunshine, Utopian, no?

But remember, there is no canon! (ahaha)

well i believe same, but if all is peace and such there is no growth , stagnate. and what happens if they leave galaxy to go to next and there be boogeyman there. i am using bad grammar on purpose fyi. anywho like the race that was wiped out for prefering peace. there will always be those that preffer war, anyways i dislike that bioware paints it as best when it goes against everything you fight for.

not saying that the other options are better or worse but synthesis does go against everything you fight for

p.s  destroy is best;)

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

[JustKnowz]

Krunjar wrote...

'there is no right or wrong ending. just how you prefer to end it '

Agree 100%

Kudos Krunjar.. i agree as well... This story is over-- Lets move on 

[Krunjar]

nhsknudsen wrote...

Krunjar wrote...

'there is no right or wrong ending. just how you prefer to end it '

Agree 100%

Perhaps in the context of a videogame, but I would bet my ass that every UN member nation with a seat on the security council, with the possible exception of China, would argue for destroy. Luckily we don't have to rely on that as it would simply mean the fourth option

Weeerl yeah but honestly I don't think theres a current world leader who I think is fit to lead a pub crawl. I disagree with alot of human morality and society at a fundamental level. I guess im a pretty weird person in that regard but that's me. I hate our society that is basically based around selling you pointless **** that makes you feel better. Car's can last 15 years but we gotta replace em after 3 wtf is this? Keeping up with the Jones's is basically just a glorified mating display. Were STILL as a society obsessed with our genetalia. And our own sense of societal fidelity and/or purity. As well as a positiveley palpable tribal instinct. That causes us to rally around meaningless scraps of cloth and butcher each other for the benefit of power hungry sob's who watch their balances soar with the bodycounts. So as far as I  am concerned something like synthesis sounds like a big step up. And that's my rationale for picking synthesis both before and after the EC  

But that's MY rationale. It dousn't have to be yours

EDIT : In the synthesis ending the reapers give you all their tech, fixing a husk with a decent body capable of enjoying life should be a small feat. Possibly there would be a support group. "Reaper's Anonymous"

Modifié par Krunjar, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:42 .

[corkey sweet]

i think destroy will be the cannon ending if they do another sequel. So, i guess bioware really does want us to pick destroy

Modifié par corkey sweet, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:41 .

[Unschuld]

 I find it funny when people say that synthesis is "the ending Bioware prefers", when it's also the one that goes completely  against the narrative and everything your allies have been pushing you away from (and your enemies have been pushing for) for three games. Not to mention that utopias like synthesis are almost always portrayed in fiction as the illusion of ultimate happiness painted over a corrupt and dark reality...

Apparently people don't pay attention very well anymore... either that or an entire team of writers has gone completely insane. In either case, I'll always choose the most narrative-friendly ending: Destroy.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Unschuld wrote...

 I find it funny when people say that synthesis is "the ending Bioware prefers", when it's also the one that goes completely  against the narrative and everything your allies have been pushing you away from (and your enemies have been pushing for) for three games. Not to mention that utopias like synthesis are almost always portrayed in fiction as the illusion of ultimate happiness painted over a corrupt and dark reality...

Apparently people don't pay attention very well anymore... either that or an entire team of writers has gone completely insane. In either case, I'll always choose the most narrative-friendly ending: Destroy.

Someone from Bioware stated it was their preferred ending

[corkey sweet]

DinoSteve wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

 I find it funny when people say that synthesis is "the ending Bioware prefers", when it's also the one that goes completely  against the narrative and everything your allies have been pushing you away from (and your enemies have been pushing for) for three games. Not to mention that utopias like synthesis are almost always portrayed in fiction as the illusion of ultimate happiness painted over a corrupt and dark reality...

Apparently people don't pay attention very well anymore... either that or an entire team of writers has gone completely insane. In either case, I'll always choose the most narrative-friendly ending: Destroy.

Someone from Bioware stated it was their preferred ending

i guess that employee played a little to much Deus Ex

[JustKnowz]

Destroy is like a stab in back to the Geth and EDI... Id rather go Control than than Destroy. Refusal is hitting the reset button (stupid renegade choice) lol

[Krunjar]

Does that mean it's their own personal preferred ending? If so this is silly that's just someone stating their preference.

[ghost9191]

Krunjar wrote...

nhsknudsen wrote...

Krunjar wrote...

'there is no right or wrong ending. just how you prefer to end it '

Agree 100%

Perhaps in the context of a videogame, but I would bet my ass that every UN member nation with a seat on the security council, with the possible exception of China, would argue for destroy. Luckily we don't have to rely on that as it would simply mean the fourth option

Weeerl yeah but honestly I don't think theres a current world leader who I think is fit to lead a pub crawl. I disagree with alot of human morality and society at a fundamental level. I guess im a pretty weird person in that regard but that's me. I hate our society that is basically based around selling you pointless **** that makes you feel better. Car's can last 15 years but we gotta replace em after 3 wtf is this? Keeping up with the Jones's is basically just a glorified mating display. Were STILL as a society obsessed with our genetalia. And our own sense of societal fidelity and/or purity. As well as a positiveley palpable tribal instinct. That causes us to rally around meaningless scraps of cloth and butcher each other for the benefit of power hungry sob's who watch their balances soar with the bodycounts. So as far as I  am concerned something like synthesis sounds like a big step up. And that's my rationale for picking synthesis both before and after the EC  

But that's MY rationale. It dousn't have to be yours

do agree with some of that, and i guess i kinda pisck destroy because it gives ppl the chance to achieve that future on their own. they came together despite their differences , i believe they can achieve a better future without the aid of reapers, and that is what i hope to see . why i pick destroy. synthesis shows the oposite, that we are not capable of achieving it on our own so it most be forced

[corkey sweet]

JustKnowz wrote...

Destroy is like a stab in back to the Geth and EDI... Id rather go Control than than Destroy. Refusal is hitting the reset button (stupid renegade choice) lol

i would rather Sheperd live. the Geth and Edi are acceptable casulties

[JustKnowz]

Truth be told WE ALL HAVE VALID POINTS.... How crazy is that? LOL