It's been mentioned in the games that someone is more likely to be born a mage if the parents have magic in their bloodline, a tendency toward being born with mage children.
That being said, is that the only way that mages can be born, and if so, would it be possible to completely destroy magic by killing all mages and killing anyone that has magical children?
I'm sorry if this has been posted before, as it seems like an overly obvious solution, but I'm still curious.
Is it possible to eliminate magic?
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Ophir147
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Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 11:27
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Nope. not possible at all.
People are born mages. The number of mages are increasing. Every day, more and more mages are born. But it's not until adolescence that magic manifests itself. The only way to completely destroy magic, is to kill every man, woman, and child who has magic, destroy all the lyrium in the earth, completely erase all enchantments (thereby breaking Sandal's heart), destroy the phylacteries, disband the order of the templars and tell them they're not allowed to use their own abilities, and then proceed to wipe out every spirit and demon who dwell within the Fade.
....tell me how that goes. I'll sell tickets and popcorn.
People are born mages. The number of mages are increasing. Every day, more and more mages are born. But it's not until adolescence that magic manifests itself. The only way to completely destroy magic, is to kill every man, woman, and child who has magic, destroy all the lyrium in the earth, completely erase all enchantments (thereby breaking Sandal's heart), destroy the phylacteries, disband the order of the templars and tell them they're not allowed to use their own abilities, and then proceed to wipe out every spirit and demon who dwell within the Fade.
....tell me how that goes. I'll sell tickets and popcorn.
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Posté 03 juillet 2012 - 01:10
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I think there is a way that would likely involve something truly terrible to accomplish with even worse results.
According to a couple of sources, magic comes from the Fade. Karl and Keeper Marethari in Dragon Age: Kirkwall shows how people are connected to the Fade.
I think severing everyone from the Fade for good by making it completely inaccessible (like destroying it or moving the world of Dragon Age out of reach from the Fade) would eliminate magic, but it would also emotionally castrate everyone (turned Tranquil, mage or no).
IMHO, that would be a terrible thing, indeed, but from what I've seen from a few people around the forum, a few people here think that, once the task was done, nobody would be worse off since they are no longer aware of what's wrong (regardless if it was their choice or not). Given Karl's reaction by his temporary reconnection to the Fade, I know that many would prefer to die than be Tranquil if they were still aware after being "Tranquilized".
According to a couple of sources, magic comes from the Fade. Karl and Keeper Marethari in Dragon Age: Kirkwall shows how people are connected to the Fade.
I think severing everyone from the Fade for good by making it completely inaccessible (like destroying it or moving the world of Dragon Age out of reach from the Fade) would eliminate magic, but it would also emotionally castrate everyone (turned Tranquil, mage or no).
IMHO, that would be a terrible thing, indeed, but from what I've seen from a few people around the forum, a few people here think that, once the task was done, nobody would be worse off since they are no longer aware of what's wrong (regardless if it was their choice or not). Given Karl's reaction by his temporary reconnection to the Fade, I know that many would prefer to die than be Tranquil if they were still aware after being "Tranquilized".
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Posté 03 juillet 2012 - 02:26
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Yep. It's totally possible. Everybody just has to move underground. Apparently, in time, all that lyrium in the stone or something will make people immune to and incapable of magic.
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Posté 03 juillet 2012 - 09:22
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dragonflight288 wrote...
People are born mages.
But are they born mages because of genetics (inheriting magic from a bloodline) or because of some random manifestation of magic?
The only thing I think that would keep the scared masses from launching an all-out "magicide" (made that word up right there yup) is the fact that there are Darkspawn mages, as well as the fact that mages are terrifically useful whenever a Blight springs up. I'm just afraid that if it were possible, then after the final Archdemon is defeated the first order of business will be to kill all of the mages, seeing how rowdy they've been getting lately.
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Posté 04 juillet 2012 - 04:24
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But are they born mages because of genetics (inheriting magic from a bloodline) or because of some random manifestation of magic?
The only thing I think that would keep the scared masses from launching an all-out "magicide" (made that word up right there yup) is the fact that there are Darkspawn mages, as well as the fact that mages are terrifically useful whenever a Blight springs up. I'm just afraid that if it were possible, then after the final Archdemon is defeated the first order of business will be to kill all of the mages, seeing how rowdy they've been getting lately.
No idea if its genetic, but the number of mages IS increasing. So something must be happening.
And the only thing keeping the general populace as terrified of mages as they are is the teachings of the Chantry. Every non-Andrastian nation, minus the Qunari, fear mages far less than the Andrastians or Tevinters. Rivain, Dalish, Chasind...you get the idea.
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Posté 04 juillet 2012 - 04:29
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dragonflight288 wrote...
No idea if its genetic, but the number of mages IS increasing. So something must be happening.
True. I was reading Ser Alrik's letter the other day and I was somewhat shocked to hear the number of mages in the Free Marches has doubled in the last three years.
Some of that may have been due to Fereldan mages fleeing the Blight, but surely not all of them. Most of Ferelden's mages fought against the darkspawn.
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Posté 04 juillet 2012 - 04:34
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True. I was reading Ser Alrik's letter the other day and I was somewhat shocked to hear the number of mages in the Free Marches has doubled in the last three years.
Some of that may have been due to Fereldan mages fleeing the Blight, but surely not all of them. Most of Ferelden's mages fought against the darkspawn.
Or were forcibly turned into abominations by Uldred, or outright killed by the Right of Annulment if the player chose that.
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Posté 04 juillet 2012 - 05:03
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dragonflight288 wrote...
True. I was reading Ser Alrik's letter the other day and I was somewhat shocked to hear the number of mages in the Free Marches has doubled in the last three years.
Some of that may have been due to Fereldan mages fleeing the Blight, but surely not all of them. Most of Ferelden's mages fought against the darkspawn.
Or were forcibly turned into abominations by Uldred, or outright killed by the Right of Annulment if the player chose that.
Right, that too.
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Posté 04 juillet 2012 - 11:46
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In the distant future, they'll all be biotics...
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Posté 05 juillet 2012 - 02:52
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I'd say "no it's not possible," then I remember the hologram kid. And I realize...yep. Bioware would DEFINITELY give us an arbitrary, hand-wavy way to destroy all magic on the planet.
Not that they're going to. But they're fully capable of doing it.
Not that they're going to. But they're fully capable of doing it.
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Posté 05 juillet 2012 - 03:48
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"One day the magic will come back, all of it. Everyone will be just as they were before..."dragonflight288 wrote...
No idea if its genetic, but the number of mages IS increasing. So something must be happening.
He is coming! He is coming!
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Posté 05 juillet 2012 - 04:02
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"One day the magic will come back, all of it. Everyone will be just as they were before..."
He is coming! He is coming!
Beware of the Staypuft Marshmellow man!
Modifié par dragonflight288, 05 juillet 2012 - 04:03 .
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Posté 05 juillet 2012 - 09:27
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if they had a synthesis ending like me3 everyone will merge and have some magic. lol
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Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 08:25
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Eliminate all Mages
Blend everyone into being part mage/part templar (everyone themselves in the mirror for eternity)
Take Control of all Mages
Refuse: Reapers show up and the DA series is a ME prequel.
Oh, c'mon. I had too.
Blend everyone into being part mage/part templar (everyone themselves in the mirror for eternity)
Take Control of all Mages
Refuse: Reapers show up and the DA series is a ME prequel.
Oh, c'mon. I had too.
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 01:26
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themikefest wrote...
if they had a synthesis ending like me3 everyone will merge and have some magic. lol
Noooo I don't want only three possible endings for Dragon age that would totally ruin the series for me.
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 04:26
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Magic is a fundamental part of Thedas. You cannot stop it or its influence. As others have said something big is happening and it may very likely tie in with the prophecies of two particular characters.
I'd say Thedas is going to somehow shift back into it's ancient self. Yavana said it was a time before the veil and when dragons held dominion over the skies. Magic becoming more prominent in the population as well as this massive war coming up that will be the cause of countless bloodsheds and magical battles may be a sign the veil will be torn completely for Thedas. Flemeth is also responsible for preserving dragons because they are somehow necessary for the world to survive and most likely play an essential part in this prophecy. As Sandal said everything and everyone will be as it once was.
I'd say Thedas is going to somehow shift back into it's ancient self. Yavana said it was a time before the veil and when dragons held dominion over the skies. Magic becoming more prominent in the population as well as this massive war coming up that will be the cause of countless bloodsheds and magical battles may be a sign the veil will be torn completely for Thedas. Flemeth is also responsible for preserving dragons because they are somehow necessary for the world to survive and most likely play an essential part in this prophecy. As Sandal said everything and everyone will be as it once was.
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 05:07
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If you destroy magic, you condmen Thedas to the qun.
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Posté 10 juillet 2012 - 06:55
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Ophir147 wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
People are born mages.
But are they born mages because of genetics (inheriting magic from a bloodline) or because of some random manifestation of magic?
The only thing I think that would keep the scared masses from launching an all-out "magicide" (made that word up right there yup) is the fact that there are Darkspawn mages, as well as the fact that mages are terrifically useful whenever a Blight springs up. I'm just afraid that if it were possible, then after the final Archdemon is defeated the first order of business will be to kill all of the mages, seeing how rowdy they've been getting lately.
We know for a fact that Jowan-- the Mage friend in the magi origin of Dragon age origins-- his parents are non-mages. Though its possible that he had magic further down his bloodline. But that could mean that magic could be in anyone bloodline. So I'm going to have to go with no-- it's impossible to get rid of magic or mages.
Unless-- you know.. You pick 'destroy' in dragon age three.
