Do you believe that the Leviathan DLC will be free?
#26
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:40
#27
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:41
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Why?iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max
Because things didn't turn out how they should have and Bioware need to adapt to the current situation or just abandon Mass effect.
Personally $2 is a very fair price for the DLC we will be getting which will probably be most likely of poor quality based on the current standing within Bioware.
#28
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:41
#29
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:41
Pfft. I wish.
We'll be lucky if it's less than 10 bucks.
#30
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:41
#31
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:42
jules_vern18 wrote...
No. Paid DLC will serve in part to test how many SP fans are willing to buy ME content now that this debacle is "over."
YES.... lol I know my friends and I wont... except for one on xbox live. He is a die hard ME3 regardless. So out of 7 people that play ME in my friend's list, 6 wont lift a finger. Horray!
#32
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:43
So it all boils down to Bioware not doing what you want them to do. Alright.iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Why?iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max
Because things didn't turn out how they should have and Bioware need to adapt to the current situation or just abandon Mass effect.
Personally $2 is a very fair price for the DLC we will be getting which will probably be most likely of poor quality based on the current standing within Bioware.
#33
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:43
#34
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:47
Your post was so funny that I forgot how to laugh.darthnick427 wrote...
Hahaha! oh you're serious....Let me laugh even harder! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
#35
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:47
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
The product was done. It didn't crash at the end or anything. You reached the end, made your decisions and then the credits rolled. Did the original endings suck? Yes. Does that mean that the game was unifished? No. You got a finished product, thought the quality of the endings were very much debatable. A movie with a crappy ending isn't an unifinished movie either. It's simply a movie with a crappy ending.Octopus_DK wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
No. And to be honest, I'm not sure parts of this fanbase actually deserves any more free content.
Quite franckly the EC was not free, I paid 60$ for it. The product I got was obviously not done when I got it, and while I still do not like the ending, I will concede that at least I have a complete product now. Will I thank them for it, absolutely not, the ending was barely at the draft stage and they deserved every single piece of complaint they got for it.
If the rest of the game sucked I would agree, but it didn't. The rest of the game is technically speaking in terms of quality of the cutscenes and dialog just so much better that it is sadly obvious that they did not apply the same standards of quality to the end. If you do not apply the same criteria of quality to the last features of your product then you are not done, and neither is the product. Bugs are just one metric on the quality of software, just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it is done.
#36
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:47
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
So it all boils down to Bioware not doing what you want them to do. Alright.iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Why?iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max
Because things didn't turn out how they should have and Bioware need to adapt to the current situation or just abandon Mass effect.
Personally $2 is a very fair price for the DLC we will be getting which will probably be most likely of poor quality based on the current standing within Bioware.
Not really.
It boils down to them not sticking to the themes of Mass effect 1 and 2 and giving the fans something bad for Mass effect 3 that didn't really fit.
And they failed to send this game off on and epic or good note, for the majority of people the game is meh or worse.
#37
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:47
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
The product was done. It didn't crash at the end or anything. You reached the end, made your decisions and then the credits rolled. Did the original endings suck? Yes. Does that mean that the game was unifished? No. You got a finished product, thought the quality of the endings were very much debatable. A movie with a crappy ending isn't an unifinished movie either. It's simply a movie with a crappy ending.Octopus_DK wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
No. And to be honest, I'm not sure parts of this fanbase actually deserves any more free content.
Quite franckly the EC was not free, I paid 60$ for it. The product I got was obviously not done when I got it, and while I still do not like the ending, I will concede that at least I have a complete product now. Will I thank them for it, absolutely not, the ending was barely at the draft stage and they deserved every single piece of complaint they got for it.
I don't see what's so hard to understand here. Bioware made a game with an ending that a significant number of players (and a greater percentage of hardcore fans) didn't like. The fanbase complained. Bioware's PR response sucked, and fans got increasingly upset. Bioware then addressed the problem (whether successfully or not is another issue).
What is there to be upset about? What has the fanbase done not to "deserve" X?
If a company sells any other product that doesn't meet the majority of customers' expectations - and those customers complain - and the company responds by modifying the product - then it's considered basic customer retention.
#38
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:48
Vinchisters wrote...
Your post was so funny that I forgot how to laugh.darthnick427 wrote...
Hahaha! oh you're serious....Let me laugh even harder! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Well you got to respect the classics, this is Bender from Futurama.
#39
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:51
As for our current DLC, the EC could never have been monetized without utterly destroying consumer confidence in BW, and MP DLC can't be monetized without fragmenting the playerbase and making it much harder for the matchmaker to do its job. MP gets its revenue from microtransactions, anyway.
#40
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:51
Octopus_DK wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
The product was done. It didn't crash at the end or anything. You reached the end, made your decisions and then the credits rolled. Did the original endings suck? Yes. Does that mean that the game was unifished? No. You got a finished product, thought the quality of the endings were very much debatable. A movie with a crappy ending isn't an unifinished movie either. It's simply a movie with a crappy ending.Octopus_DK wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
No. And to be honest, I'm not sure parts of this fanbase actually deserves any more free content.
Quite franckly the EC was not free, I paid 60$ for it. The product I got was obviously not done when I got it, and while I still do not like the ending, I will concede that at least I have a complete product now. Will I thank them for it, absolutely not, the ending was barely at the draft stage and they deserved every single piece of complaint they got for it.
If the rest of the game sucked I would agree, but it didn't. The rest of the game is technically speaking in terms of quality of the cutscenes and dialog just so much better that it is sadly obvious that they did not apply the same standards of quality to the end. If you do not apply the same criteria of quality to the last features of your product then you are not done, and neither is the product. Bugs are just one metric on the quality of software, just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it is done.
So I guess a music album with a crappy track at the end or a movie with a bad ending is unifineshed too, according to your weird logic. You make very little sense.
They offered the EC for free, and that fixed the ending for most people (as that poll on facebook clearly showed).iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
So it all boils down to Bioware not doing what you want them to do. Alright.iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Why?iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max
Because things didn't turn out how they should have and Bioware need to adapt to the current situation or just abandon Mass effect.
Personally $2 is a very fair price for the DLC we will be getting which will probably be most likely of poor quality based on the current standing within Bioware.
Not really.
It boils down to them not sticking to the themes of Mass effect 1 and 2 and giving the fans something bad for Mass effect 3 that didn't really fit.
And they failed to send this game off on and epic or good note, for the majority of people the game is meh or worse.
#41
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:52
#42
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:53
#43
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:53
Remeber what I sad. PARTS of this fanbase. The majority of BSN is still whining like a spoiled child even after the EC has been released. When you continue complaining and trash talking Bioware, even after 3 free DLCs, you deserve no more free content.jules_vern18 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
The product was done. It didn't crash at the end or anything. You reached the end, made your decisions and then the credits rolled. Did the original endings suck? Yes. Does that mean that the game was unifished? No. You got a finished product, thought the quality of the endings were very much debatable. A movie with a crappy ending isn't an unifinished movie either. It's simply a movie with a crappy ending.Octopus_DK wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
No. And to be honest, I'm not sure parts of this fanbase actually deserves any more free content.
Quite franckly the EC was not free, I paid 60$ for it. The product I got was obviously not done when I got it, and while I still do not like the ending, I will concede that at least I have a complete product now. Will I thank them for it, absolutely not, the ending was barely at the draft stage and they deserved every single piece of complaint they got for it.
I don't see what's so hard to understand here. Bioware made a game with an ending that a significant number of players (and a greater percentage of hardcore fans) didn't like. The fanbase complained. Bioware's PR response sucked, and fans got increasingly upset. Bioware then addressed the problem (whether successfully or not is another issue).
What is there to be upset about? What has the fanbase done not to "deserve" X?
If a company sells any other product that doesn't meet the majority of customers' expectations - and those customers complain - and the company responds by modifying the product - then it's considered basic customer retention.
#44
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:54
Octopus_DK wrote...
Vinchisters wrote...
Your post was so funny that I forgot how to laugh.darthnick427 wrote...
Hahaha! oh you're serious....Let me laugh even harder! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Well you got to respect the classics, this is Bender from Futurama.
True story. Respect his shiny metal ass
#45
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:55
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
They offered the EC for free, and that fixed the ending for most people (as that poll on facebook clearly showed).
How many voted?
Even if people think the "endings" are fixed they're still meh in their minds
EC was an insult to gamers overall in the bigger picture of things.
#46
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:56
Bring Down the Sky, Pinnacle Station, LotSB, Overlord, Kasumi, Arrival, and Javik all cost about $10. Pinacle Station bombed and Javik was frowned upon, but the others were well-received. That said, I have a hard time seeing many people buying ME3 DLC unless it has an impact on the ending. Personally, I probably won't buy it unless reviews indicate that it changes the ending. Otherwise, you probably just get a 2-hour mission and a war asset (a mechanic that has already proven to be mostly pointless). $10 for 2 hours worth of content isn't worth it to me (that would be like paying $60 for a 12-hour game).
#47
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 09:56
#48
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 10:00
An insult?! Strangely enough most people outside of this mental social network have been satisfied with the EC. It's only insulting to you, because you're mad Bioware didn't do what you wanted them to do. Stop acting like a spoiled child. It's embarrasing to look at.iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
They offered the EC for free, and that fixed the ending for most people (as that poll on facebook clearly showed).
How many voted?
Even if people think the "endings" are fixed they're still meh in their minds
EC was an insult to gamers overall in the bigger picture of things.
#49
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 10:00
darthnick427 wrote...
Octopus_DK wrote...
Vinchisters wrote...
Your post was so funny that I forgot how to laugh.darthnick427 wrote...
Hahaha! oh you're serious....Let me laugh even harder! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Well you got to respect the classics, this is Bender from Futurama.
True story. Respect his shiny metal ass![]()
Damn, I just got owned by a futuristic metal smartass.
#50
Posté 02 juillet 2012 - 10:01
You dont know how silly that sounds. You have to pay over 10€ just to get 4 new maps in battlefield 3




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