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[KrAzY WiSh]

Wow, I must have missed it. when was this leviathon of dis announced? A dlc involving this sounds intriguing and i'd be willing to pay for it if it`s as good as Project Overlord or Lotsb.

[Octopus_DK]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

 

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No. And to be honest, I'm not sure parts of this fanbase actually deserves any more free content.

Quite franckly the EC was not free, I paid 60$ for it. The product I got was obviously not done when I got it, and while I still do not like the ending, I will concede that at least I have a complete product now. Will I thank them for it, absolutely not, the ending was barely at the draft stage and they deserved every single piece of complaint they got for it.

The product was done. It didn't crash at the end or anything. You reached the end, made your decisions and then the credits rolled. Did the original endings suck? Yes. Does that mean that the game was unifished? No. You got a finished product, thought the quality of the endings were very much debatable. A movie with a crappy ending isn't an unifinished movie either. It's simply a movie with a crappy ending. 

If the rest of the game sucked I would agree, but it didn't. The rest of the game is technically speaking in terms of quality of the cutscenes and dialog just so much better that it is sadly obvious that they did not apply the same standards of quality to the end. If you do not apply the same criteria of quality to the last features of your product then you are not done, and neither is the product. Bugs are just one metric on the quality of software, just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it is done. 

 
So I guess a music album with a crappy track at the end or a movie with a bad ending is unifineshed too, according to your weird logic. You make very little sense.
 

I would love to have you as a customer, it'll save me time and money on quality assurance. I hope you would be pissed if someone sold you a music album with 10 tracks on it and it turns out the last 2 tracks is the producer singing, drunk, in the restrooms and recording on an old tape recorder. I would feel ripped off, I hope you would too. By your logic as long as I put some effort into doing some of it right, I don't need to put any time or effort into doing the rest right. 

So if an album had 10 amazing mindblowing tracks, and two bad ones at the end, you'd feel ripped off? 

Righty then, I think you just ended the discussion with that statement. You're simply not worth it.

I love the fact that it never strikes you, that they should just have put the 10 amazing tracks on there, and removed the two that they know are bad before shipping. Sadly in this case they shipped all 12 because they wanted to advertise that they had 12 tracks instead of 10. I hope you will stand up for yourself some day and be more assertive as a customer. Goodnight sir.

[Dragoonlordz]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

No. Nippity no. They've made enough content free as it is.

Just 1 more and we will be even.

How do you know that one DLC will be any better and make everything all nice again, fact is your merely being greedy which is why you can allocate a number to how many you want free as opposed to having a DLC you enjoy and has nothing to do with being insulted or what you hated. It is greed.

[shepard1038]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

No. Nippity no. They've made enough content free as it is.

Just 1 more and we will be even.

That would be nice, truly. Possibly more free content regarding multiplayer, but not story DLC.

No we need 1 free story DLC and paid multiplayer, multiplayer is getting it easy.

Why you'll probably hate it and keep asking more free DLC.

Modifié par shepard1038, 02 juillet 2012 - 10:24 .

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

shepard1038 wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

No. Nippity no. They've made enough content free as it is.

Just 1 more and we will be even.

That would be nice, truly. Possibly more free content regarding multiplayer, but not story DLC.

No we need 1 free story DLC and paid multiplayer, multiplayer is getting it easy.

Why you'll probably hate it.

This is off topic, but hate what?

[Dragoonlordz]

Octopus_DK wrote...

Well trust lost is hard to regain. That this person says that based on the quality she feels she has gotten so far, she is only willing to pay $2 for the next DLC, seems reasonable. I don't really really understand why you are mad, when you screw up, it usually costs a lot more than what you saved in the first place to regain your customer base. I personally will make a decision when I see the price and read the feedback, however, I am certainly done preordering from Bioware for quite some time.

It is not true at all, if was quality she was after than she would not be able to allocate a number to how many she wants. There is nothing thats stops this next DLC also being hated by her.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 juillet 2012 - 10:24 .

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

No. Nippity no. They've made enough content free as it is.

Just 1 more and we will be even.

How do you know that one DLC will be any better and make everything all nice again, fact is your merely being greedy which is why you can allocate a number to how many you want free as opposed to having a DLC you enjoy and has nothing to do with being insulted or what you hated. It is greed.

I enjoy all free DLC.

[jules_vern18]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

 

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No. And to be honest, I'm not sure parts of this fanbase actually deserves any more free content.

Quite franckly the EC was not free, I paid 60$ for it. The product I got was obviously not done when I got it, and while I still do not like the ending, I will concede that at least I have a complete product now. Will I thank them for it, absolutely not, the ending was barely at the draft stage and they deserved every single piece of complaint they got for it.

The product was done. It didn't crash at the end or anything. You reached the end, made your decisions and then the credits rolled. Did the original endings suck? Yes. Does that mean that the game was unifished? No. You got a finished product, thought the quality of the endings were very much debatable. A movie with a crappy ending isn't an unifinished movie either. It's simply a movie with a crappy ending. 

If the rest of the game sucked I would agree, but it didn't. The rest of the game is technically speaking in terms of quality of the cutscenes and dialog just so much better that it is sadly obvious that they did not apply the same standards of quality to the end. If you do not apply the same criteria of quality to the last features of your product then you are not done, and neither is the product. Bugs are just one metric on the quality of software, just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it is done. 

 
So I guess a music album with a crappy track at the end or a movie with a bad ending is unifineshed too, according to your weird logic. You make very little sense.
 

I would love to have you as a customer, it'll save me time and money on quality assurance. I hope you would be pissed if someone sold you a music album with 10 tracks on it and it turns out the last 2 tracks is the producer singing, drunk, in the restrooms and recording on an old tape recorder. I would feel ripped off, I hope you would too. By your logic as long as I put some effort into doing some of it right, I don't need to put any time or effort into doing the rest right. 

So if an album had 10 amazing mindblowing tracks, and two bad ones at the end, you'd feel ripped off? 

Righty then, I think you just ended the discussion with that statement. You're simply not worth it.

Comparing low-expense passive medium to high-expense interactive medium.  Morover, comparing stand-alone content (tracks on an album) to integral content (the ending to a 5 year epic saga).

Your analogy is bad and you're a pr*ck about it.  Tell me something - what do you hope to gain from this thread?  Do you expect to convince fans who still feel disappointed to stop expressing their disappointment?  I get that you don't think DLC should be free, and I agree with you.  But you can't seem to help yourself when it comes to bashing people who feel negatively impacted by this ending, Bioware's response, and/or the EC.  Again, what's the point?

[shepard1038]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

No. Nippity no. They've made enough content free as it is.

Just 1 more and we will be even.

That would be nice, truly. Possibly more free content regarding multiplayer, but not story DLC.

No we need 1 free story DLC and paid multiplayer, multiplayer is getting it easy.

Why you'll probably hate it.

This is off topic, but hate what?

The free DLC.

[Dragoonlordz]

Octopus_DK wrote...

I love the fact that it never strikes you, that they should just have put the 10 amazing tracks on there, and removed the two that they know are bad before shipping. Sadly in this case they shipped all 12 because they wanted to advertise that they had 12 tracks instead of 10. I hope you will stand up for yourself some day and be more assertive as a customer. Goodnight sir.

Not everyone would hate it, they wouldn't recall the entire lot or give you your money back because some people do not enjoy the last two tracks. They would turn around and say enjoy the remaining ten. Enjoyment is subjective. Hell a lot of actual music CDs do contain 30 second and 1 minute chats or introductions or even some with just strumming and making noise playing around with drums if bought any deep purple or rock albums.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 juillet 2012 - 10:29 .

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

shepard1038 wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

No. Nippity no. They've made enough content free as it is.

Just 1 more and we will be even.

That would be nice, truly. Possibly more free content regarding multiplayer, but not story DLC.

No we need 1 free story DLC and paid multiplayer, multiplayer is getting it easy.

Why you'll probably hate it.

This is off topic, but hate what?

The free DLC.

I don't hate free DLC, I welcome it.

[jules_vern18]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

I love the fact that it never strikes you, that they should just have put the 10 amazing tracks on there, and removed the two that they know are bad before shipping. Sadly in this case they shipped all 12 because they wanted to advertise that they had 12 tracks instead of 10. I hope you will stand up for yourself some day and be more assertive as a customer. Goodnight sir.

Not everyone would hate it, they wouldn't recall the entire lot because some people do not enjoy the last two tracks. They would turn around and say enjoy the remaining ten. Enjoyment is subjective. Hell a lot of actual music CDs do contain 30 second and 1 minute chats or introductions or even some with just strumming and making noise playing around with drums if bought any deep purple or rock albums.

I'll say it again - comparing stand-alone tracks on a 50-minute CD to the trilogy-defining ending of an interactive 5-year epic saga is asinine.  You can disregard songs that you don't like much easier than you can let go of an ending that is integral to the overall narrative of an interactive medium you have fully invested yourself in over the course of half a decade.

This is not a difficult concept.

Modifié par jules_vern18, 02 juillet 2012 - 10:33 .

[BattlemastaWrex]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max

Why?

Because things didn't turn out how they should have and Bioware need to adapt to the current situation or just abandon Mass effect.
Personally $2 is a very fair price for the DLC we will be getting which will probably be most likely of poor quality based on the current standing within Bioware.

So it all boils down to Bioware not doing what you want them to do. Alright. 

Not really.
It boils down to them not sticking to the themes of Mass effect 1 and 2 and giving the fans something bad for Mass effect 3 that didn't really fit.
And they failed to send this game off on and epic or good note, for the majority of people the game is meh or worse.

Back to the point, assuming (direct control, no) that Leviathan is $10, I will most likely buy it. However, its really dumb to command Bioware to make it free or 2 dollars. I wonder how much the cost of producing the Extended Cut was, because personally I didn't feel entitled to anything beyond the 60 dollars used to pay for a new copy of Mass Effect 3. It was a kind gesture and it greatly improved the lackluster endings, but the expectation that because one part of Mass Effect 3 was bad, that the rest of the game is bad is an ignorant belief that has spread to far throughout the Mass Effect community. As I recall, almost everybody says that the majority of the campaign was on par or even better than Mass Effect 2, I belief I strongly share. To assume because 5 minutes of the game was bad, that future DLC will be the same quality is an asinine belief and to demand that it be free is even more greedy of you.
Why? Because if you expect the DLC to be as bad as the original ending, you would truly not want the DLC at all. It really wouldn't matter if it was free because you expect it to be so bad. But in reality you are simply hiding the fact that you feel disenfranchised by the last 5 minutes of ME3 and unwilling or unable to mentally get past that which is the primary reason you have judged the rest of a mostly amazing game to be so bad and you are using the same logic to apply to the DLC which hasn't been confirmed yet.
So to summarize my point, if you are someone who demands further free or 2 dollar SP DLC, you are a Bosh'tet.

[Blitzhawk65]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Again, many people (outside this particulat forum) were extremely happy with the EC, so I honestly don't understand where you're going with this whole 'their rep has gone down'-thing. 

FWIW Bioware has gone down in my own personal opinion.  I am a plot-junkie and I paid for all of the previous story-ME DLCs (including Pinnacle Station) and I did not regret doing so because I enjoyed the universe and I enjoyed the writing.  Cerberderp, lack of several previous plots, starchild, the endings, and the pointlessness of player choices and war assets killed that for me.  EC was better than what they had, but it still didn't fix a plot that I do not believe lives up to its predecessors.  As it stands, I am not going to buy any DLC because I do not trust the quality of Bioware's writing anymore to make myself care.  If they actually fix the ending to make the war assets do something, then I may be able to forgive things like Cerberderp and can go back to enjoying the ME universe (and paying to enjoy it).

You may have a different opinion, and I am sure there are still many people who would buy a single player DLC, but it would be nieve to believe that there are many others like me who would not.  DLC is only successful when a game and its creators have built up enough goodwill that the fans are willing to pay a little extra to get more.  That goodwill no longer exists within myself and a many others so the probably of commercial success for a single player DLC has diminished.  I don't have any problems with them charging for the DLC, but I have a feeling that ME single-player DLC is going to go the way of Dragon Age 2 instead of ME2

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

BattlemastaWrex wrote...

Back to the point, assuming (direct control, no) that Leviathan is $10, I will most likely buy it. However, its really dumb to command Bioware to make it free or 2 dollars. I wonder how much the cost of producing the Extended Cut was, because personally I didn't feel entitled to anything beyond the 60 dollars used to pay for a new copy of Mass Effect 3. It was a kind gesture and it greatly improved the lackluster endings, but the expectation that because one part of Mass Effect 3 was bad, that the rest of the game is bad is an ignorant belief that has spread to far throughout the Mass Effect community. As I recall, almost everybody says that the majority of the campaign was on par or even better than Mass Effect 2, I belief I strongly share. To assume because 5 minutes of the game was bad, that future DLC will be the same quality is an asinine belief and to demand that it be free is even more greedy of you.
Why? Because if you expect the DLC to be as bad as the original ending, you would truly not want the DLC at all. It really wouldn't matter if it was free because you expect it to be so bad. But in reality you are simply hiding the fact that you feel disenfranchised by the last 5 minutes of ME3 and unwilling or unable to mentally get past that which is the primary reason you have judged the rest of a mostly amazing game to be so bad and you are using the same logic to apply to the DLC which hasn't been confirmed yet.
So to summarize my point, if you are someone who demands further free or 2 dollar SP DLC, you are a Bosh'tet.

We're just different people.
You like to pay for things, I don't.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

jules_vern18 wrote...
Comparing low-expense passive medium to high-expense interactive medium.  Morover, comparing stand-alone content (tracks on an album) to integral content (the ending to a 5 year epic saga).

Your analogy is bad and you're a pr*ck about it.  Tell me something - what do you hope to gain from this thread?  Do you expect to convince fans who still feel disappointed to stop expressing their disappointment?  I get that you don't think DLC should be free, and I agree with you.  But you can't seem to help yourself when it comes to bashing people who feel negatively impacted by this ending, Bioware's response, and/or the EC.  Again, what's the point?

Mass Effect 3 is a piece of entertainment. A product. Just like a music album or a movie or a book. It's made possible by a bunch of people, just like a music album or a movie or a book. Videogames are no different.

And starting out by calling me a pr*ck in the 2nd paragraph? Good one.

I don't hope to gain anything. The OP asked if we believed the next DLC would be free or not. I answered with something like: "No. Some parts of this fanbase don’t deserve it". Now, of course I should have known all these angry people who are still mad at BW would come running in here, telling me to shut up and defending their right to complain endlessly about the same damn thing for months. And they do have the right to do that, just as much as I have the right to speak against them. 

I liked the ending (after the EC). I have no problems with them. I think the constant hate on here (the official BW forums of all places) is getting a bit out of hand. They gave us THREE free pieces of DLC, and these people are still angry and asking for the next one to be free too, because the product that was released on launch 'wasn't finished'. 

That, is bull****. Mass Effect 3 was a finished game, crappy ending or not. You may think I'm a total pr*ck for actually speaking against all these people, who seems to think that trash talking BW and their game, earns them the right to free DLC. It’s funny how everyone who actually speaks against these people again and again gets labeled as trolls, while the complainers ‘have every right to express themselves’.

Tl;dr: If people are allowed to b*tch and moan about the ending, I’m allowed to defend it. I paid money for the game too.  I liked the ending (after the EC). I have no problems with them. I think the constant hate on here (the official BW forums of all places) is getting a bit out of hand. They gave us THREE free pieces of DLC, and these people are still angry and asking for the next one to be free too, because the product that was released on launch 'wasn't finished'. 

Modifié par Brovikk Rasputin, 02 juillet 2012 - 10:43 .

[BattlemastaWrex]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

BattlemastaWrex wrote...

Back to the point, assuming (direct control, no) that Leviathan is $10, I will most likely buy it. However, its really dumb to command Bioware to make it free or 2 dollars. I wonder how much the cost of producing the Extended Cut was, because personally I didn't feel entitled to anything beyond the 60 dollars used to pay for a new copy of Mass Effect 3. It was a kind gesture and it greatly improved the lackluster endings, but the expectation that because one part of Mass Effect 3 was bad, that the rest of the game is bad is an ignorant belief that has spread to far throughout the Mass Effect community. As I recall, almost everybody says that the majority of the campaign was on par or even better than Mass Effect 2, I belief I strongly share. To assume because 5 minutes of the game was bad, that future DLC will be the same quality is an asinine belief and to demand that it be free is even more greedy of you.
Why? Because if you expect the DLC to be as bad as the original ending, you would truly not want the DLC at all. It really wouldn't matter if it was free because you expect it to be so bad. But in reality you are simply hiding the fact that you feel disenfranchised by the last 5 minutes of ME3 and unwilling or unable to mentally get past that which is the primary reason you have judged the rest of a mostly amazing game to be so bad and you are using the same logic to apply to the DLC which hasn't been confirmed yet.
So to summarize my point, if you are someone who demands further free or 2 dollar SP DLC, you are a Bosh'tet.

We're just different people.
You like to pay for things, I don't.

That doesn't excuse the lack of thought put into your last few forum posts, to the point that you made less sense than the original ME3 ending.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Like other have said no. We got free multiplayer stuff because they wanted us to play mutliplayer. We got the EC free because they done goofed. Future DLC will need to be paid for.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

BattlemastaWrex wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

BattlemastaWrex wrote...

Back to the point, assuming (direct control, no) that Leviathan is $10, I will most likely buy it. However, its really dumb to command Bioware to make it free or 2 dollars. I wonder how much the cost of producing the Extended Cut was, because personally I didn't feel entitled to anything beyond the 60 dollars used to pay for a new copy of Mass Effect 3. It was a kind gesture and it greatly improved the lackluster endings, but the expectation that because one part of Mass Effect 3 was bad, that the rest of the game is bad is an ignorant belief that has spread to far throughout the Mass Effect community. As I recall, almost everybody says that the majority of the campaign was on par or even better than Mass Effect 2, I belief I strongly share. To assume because 5 minutes of the game was bad, that future DLC will be the same quality is an asinine belief and to demand that it be free is even more greedy of you.
Why? Because if you expect the DLC to be as bad as the original ending, you would truly not want the DLC at all. It really wouldn't matter if it was free because you expect it to be so bad. But in reality you are simply hiding the fact that you feel disenfranchised by the last 5 minutes of ME3 and unwilling or unable to mentally get past that which is the primary reason you have judged the rest of a mostly amazing game to be so bad and you are using the same logic to apply to the DLC which hasn't been confirmed yet.
So to summarize my point, if you are someone who demands further free or 2 dollar SP DLC, you are a Bosh'tet.

We're just different people.
You like to pay for things, I don't.

That doesn't excuse the lack of thought put into your last few forum posts, to the point that you made less sense than the original ME3 ending.

You would have to expand on this point as I don't fully understand.

[BattlemastaWrex]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

 

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No. And to be honest, I'm not sure parts of this fanbase actually deserves any more free content.

Quite franckly the EC was not free, I paid 60$ for it. The product I got was obviously not done when I got it, and while I still do not like the ending, I will concede that at least I have a complete product now. Will I thank them for it, absolutely not, the ending was barely at the draft stage and they deserved every single piece of complaint they got for it.

The product was done. It didn't crash at the end or anything. You reached the end, made your decisions and then the credits rolled. Did the original endings suck? Yes. Does that mean that the game was unifished? No. You got a finished product, thought the quality of the endings were very much debatable. A movie with a crappy ending isn't an unifinished movie either. It's simply a movie with a crappy ending. 

If the rest of the game sucked I would agree, but it didn't. The rest of the game is technically speaking in terms of quality of the cutscenes and dialog just so much better that it is sadly obvious that they did not apply the same standards of quality to the end. If you do not apply the same criteria of quality to the last features of your product then you are not done, and neither is the product. Bugs are just one metric on the quality of software, just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean it is done. 

 
So I guess a music album with a crappy track at the end or a movie with a bad ending is unifineshed too, according to your weird logic. You make very little sense.
 

I would love to have you as a customer, it'll save me time and money on quality assurance. I hope you would be pissed if someone sold you a music album with 10 tracks on it and it turns out the last 2 tracks is the producer singing, drunk, in the restrooms and recording on an old tape recorder. I would feel ripped off, I hope you would too. By your logic as long as I put some effort into doing some of it right, I don't need to put any time or effort into doing the rest right. 

So if an album had 10 amazing mindblowing tracks, and two bad ones at the end, you'd feel ripped off? 

Righty then, I think you just ended the discussion with that statement. You're simply not worth it.

Comparing low-expense passive medium to high-expense interactive medium.  Morover, comparing stand-alone content (tracks on an album) to integral content (the ending to a 5 year epic saga).

Your analogy is bad and you're a pr*ck about it.  Tell me something - what do you hope to gain from this thread?  Do you expect to convince fans who still feel disappointed to stop expressing their disappointment?  I get that you don't think DLC should be free, and I agree with you.  But you can't seem to help yourself when it comes to bashing people who feel negatively impacted by this ending, Bioware's response, and/or the EC.  Again, what's the point?

Mass Effect 3 is a piece of entertainment. A product. Just like a music
album or a movie or a book. It's made possible by a bunch of people, just like
a music album or a movie or a book. Videogames are no different.



And starting out by calling me a pr*ck in the 2nd
paragraph? Good one.



I don't hope to gain anything. The OP asked if we
believed the next DLC would be free or not. I answered with something like:
"No. Some parts of this fanbase don’t deserve it". Now, of course I
should have known all these angry people who are still mad at BW would come
running in here, telling me to shut up and defending their right to complain
endlessly about the same damn thing for months. And they do have the right to
do that, just as much as I have the right to speak against them. 



I liked the ending (after the EC). I have no
problems with them. I think the constant hate on here (the official BW forums
of all places) is getting a bit out of hand. They gave us THREE free pieces of DLC,
and these people are still angry and asking for the next one to be free too,
because the product that was released on launch 'wasn't finished'. 



That, is bull****. Mass Effect 3 was a finished
game, crappy ending or not. You may think I'm a total pr*ck for actually
speaking against all these people, who seems to think that trash talking BW and
their game, earns them the right to free DLC. It’s funny how everyone who
actually speaks against these people again and again gets labeled as trolls,
while the complainers ‘have every right to express themselves’.

Tl;dr: If people are allowed to b*tch and moan about the ending, I’m
allowed to defend it. I paid money for the game too.  I liked the ending (after the EC). I have no problems with them. I think the constant hate on here (the official BW forums of all places) is getting a bit out of hand. They gave us THREE free pieces of DLC, and these people are still angry and asking for the next one to be free too, because the product that was released on launch 'wasn't finished'. 

That, is bull****. Mass Effect 3 was a finished game, crappy ending or not. You may think I'm a total pr*ck for actually speaking against all these people, who seems to think that trash talking BW and their game, earns them the right to free DLC. Sorry to dissapoint you, 

You two, jules_vern18 and Brovikk Rasputin, despite me siding with Rasputin, should settle this with some good old Krogan headbutting.

[JamieCOTC]

Not a chance and in all honesty it (or whatever the next SP DLC is) shouldn't be free. The first paid DLC will be the make or break point for ME3.

[Dragoonlordz]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

I don't hate free DLC, I welcome it.

Ofcouse you do your greedy.

Wanting something free does not mean you should get it free.

It should cost and those who still do not want it or still not happy then don't buy it.

[The Paragon Disciple]

ME3 is not DA2. Aside from the original vanilla endings, the EC was above satisyfing to the MAJORITY of ME fans and therefore SP DLC will be plentiful.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Not a chance and in all honesty it (or whatever the next SP DLC is) shouldn't be free. The first paid DLC will be the make or break point for ME3.

The first paid DLC was released at DAY 1

[BattlemastaWrex]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

BattlemastaWrex wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

BattlemastaWrex wrote...

Back to the point, assuming (direct control, no) that Leviathan is $10, I will most likely buy it. However, its really dumb to command Bioware to make it free or 2 dollars. I wonder how much the cost of producing the Extended Cut was, because personally I didn't feel entitled to anything beyond the 60 dollars used to pay for a new copy of Mass Effect 3. It was a kind gesture and it greatly improved the lackluster endings, but the expectation that because one part of Mass Effect 3 was bad, that the rest of the game is bad is an ignorant belief that has spread to far throughout the Mass Effect community. As I recall, almost everybody says that the majority of the campaign was on par or even better than Mass Effect 2, I belief I strongly share. To assume because 5 minutes of the game was bad, that future DLC will be the same quality is an asinine belief and to demand that it be free is even more greedy of you.
Why? Because if you expect the DLC to be as bad as the original ending, you would truly not want the DLC at all. It really wouldn't matter if it was free because you expect it to be so bad. But in reality you are simply hiding the fact that you feel disenfranchised by the last 5 minutes of ME3 and unwilling or unable to mentally get past that which is the primary reason you have judged the rest of a mostly amazing game to be so bad and you are using the same logic to apply to the DLC which hasn't been confirmed yet.
So to summarize my point, if you are someone who demands further free or 2 dollar SP DLC, you are a Bosh'tet.

We're just different people.
You like to pay for things, I don't.

That doesn't excuse the lack of thought put into your last few forum posts, to the point that you made less sense than the original ME3 ending.

You would have to expand on this point as I don't fully understand.

Your lack of understanding dumfounds me because you would understand your hypocrisy had you read this: "
To assume because 5 minutes of the game was bad, that future DLC will be the same quality is an asinine belief and to demand that it be free is even more greedy of you. Why? Because if you expect the DLC to be as bad as the original ending, you would truly not want the DLC at all."