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[Firecell11]

wafflez wrote...

I'm guessing the DLC will be $10, plus an additional $5 for the leviathan to actually appear.

LOLZ

[Dragoonlordz]

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Kelwing wrote...

No and not expecting it or any other sp dlc to be free. Time is money and people don't sit and do work for nothing.

All the fans that put hundreds of hours into the games feel the same way.
Bioware cannot give us our time back so atleast they should keep make free endings. until they get it right. or grant us a full refund.

No. Do not compare sitting on your arse for few hours a day playing a game series that you enjoyed for many years until the last 15 whatever mins of last game to someone sitting in an office working all day almost every day more than likely and sometimes late into the night for months on end making it.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:16 .

[Edrick1976]

NO because it will have single player. Also it will be kinda like a test to see if their is a point in keep on making more single player content DLC for the game.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max

Why?

because the ec is an explaination of why the garbage stinks opposed to by bioware taking out the garbage and throwing it away

How does that answer my question?

How does it not answer your question?
They did the same sub par with the original endings. Why do they deserve more money for churring out garbage?

So if you flat start with you will drop 60 bucks at a fine dinner and want a full course with salad soup steak etc
You get a burger, a rotten salad and a cockroach in your soup I take it you are the one to eat up all biowaste has to give and say
"Well at least it wasn't two cockroaches."
BUT NO WE CANNOT STOP THERE
Then willing pay an extra ten dollars for a nice slice of rich velvet cake but only get a scoop of melty ice cream after the product before hand was complete utter ****?

I reached the point were it said 'biowaste' and the I stopped reading. If you can't even state your opinion without resorting to childish insults, I'm not going to bother. I'll just leave you with this good old gem: "Don't like it, don't buy it."

bought it day 1 and as a customer i deserve either a good ending or a refund

[Thrawn777]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Blitzhawk65 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Tl;dr: If people are allowed to b*tch and moan about the ending, I’m allowed to defend it. I paid money for the game too.  I liked the ending (after the EC). I have no problems with them. I think the constant hate on here (the official BW forums of all places) is getting a bit out of hand. They gave us THREE free pieces of DLC, and these people are still angry and asking for the next one to be free too, because the product that was released on launch 'wasn't finished'. 

That, is bull****. Mass Effect 3 was a finished game, crappy ending or not. You may think I'm a total pr*ck for actually speaking against all these people, who seems to think that trash talking BW and their game, earns them the right to free DLC. Sorry to dissapoint you, 

Multiplayer DLCs pay for themselves through buying equipment packs the multiplayer shop, if they would have charged money for those, then fewer people would have bought them and therefore fewer people would play multiplayer and/or buy the packs.  This isn't Halo or Call of Duty, I would bet that most people didn't buy ME3 for the multiplayer, they bought it for the single player.

EC had to be free.  There was an estimated 90% of fans that didn't like the endings.  For a plot-driven game with RPG elements that is bad.  If they would not have fixed the ending then there would have been very little chance that anyone would buy any future paid DLC, let alone another game using the ME IP. 

I am not offering that to say that future DLC should be unpaid, but I am offering it to say that Bioware had financial reasons to offer those DLCs for free.  It wasn't out of the goodness of their heart, it was to build up goodwill with the fans so that they will keep playing multiplayer or keep buying future products.

That is true, but that doesn't change the fact that developing the content cost them a lot of money and time. A lot of other stuff could have happened. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about what we got. 

Bioware is a company, and they want to make money just as much as every other company. Still, they took their time to create the EC, insted of going 'suck it up, we've got your money', and I think they deserve a little bit of respect for that.

Providing something, only after a huge outcry, that should have been included in the original product, hardly "deserves" respect. 

Mass Effect 3 was nowhere near a finished product, and I'm not talking about just the endings, those were just the most obvious problems.  If you really do feel the fact that the game didn't crash, the story ended, and some credits rolled are the only standards Bioware were obligated to meet, then you have a really low bar to clear.  Not everyone is going to be as happy with whatever crap is served to them.

Oh, and no, future sp dlc will not be free, and nor should it be.  Not that it matters to me either way, as I won't be downloading it in either scenario.

Modifié par Thrawn777, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:17 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max

Why?

because the ec is an explaination of why the garbage stinks opposed to by bioware taking out the garbage and throwing it away

How does that answer my question?

How does it not answer your question?
They did the same sub par with the original endings. Why do they deserve more money for churring out garbage?

So if you flat start with you will drop 60 bucks at a fine dinner and want a full course with salad soup steak etc
You get a burger, a rotten salad and a cockroach in your soup I take it you are the one to eat up all biowaste has to give and say
"Well at least it wasn't two cockroaches."
BUT NO WE CANNOT STOP THERE
Then willing pay an extra ten dollars for a nice slice of rich velvet cake but only get a scoop of melty ice cream after the product before hand was complete utter ****?

I reached the point were it said 'biowaste' and the I stopped reading. If you can't even state your opinion without resorting to childish insults, I'm not going to bother. I'll just leave you with this good old gem: "Don't like it, don't buy it."

bought it day 1 and as a customer i deserve either a good ending or a refund

You don't deserve anything. You paid 60 bucks for a game, and you got a game. You got the free ending DLC, and if you're still not satisfied, well, tough luck. That's life. Sometimes things don't live up to your expectations. 

Modifié par Brovikk Rasputin, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:19 .

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Kelwing wrote...

No and not expecting it or any other sp dlc to be free. Time is money and people don't sit and do work for nothing.

All the fans that put hundreds of hours into the games feel the same way.
Bioware cannot give us our time back so atleast they should keep make free endings. until they get it right. or grant us a full refund.

No. Do not compare sitting on your arse for few hours a day playing a game series that you enjoyed for many years until the last 15 whatever mins of last game to someone sitting in an office working all day almost every day more than likely and sometimes late into the night for months on end making it.

I did and i will continue. 80 dollars for a product and I am unsatisfied with it? Refund or fix it.
Since biowaste has proven they cannot fix it then a refund is in order.

By the way mac walters and casey hudson were the only people that decided the ending.
betcha i put more hours into mass effect 1 than they did combined working on the ending.

[jules_vern18]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Octopus_DK wrote...

I love the fact that it never strikes you, that they should just have put the 10 amazing tracks on there, and removed the two that they know are bad before shipping. Sadly in this case they shipped all 12 because they wanted to advertise that they had 12 tracks instead of 10. I hope you will stand up for yourself some day and be more assertive as a customer. Goodnight sir.

Not everyone would hate it, they wouldn't recall the entire lot because some people do not enjoy the last two tracks. They would turn around and say enjoy the remaining ten. Enjoyment is subjective. Hell a lot of actual music CDs do contain 30 second and 1 minute chats or introductions or even some with just strumming and making noise playing around with drums if bought any deep purple or rock albums.

I'll say it again - comparing stand-alone tracks on a 50-minute CD to the trilogy-defining ending of an interactive 5-year epic saga is asinine.  You can disregard songs that you don't like much easier than you can let go of an ending that is integral to the overall narrative of an interactive medium you have fully invested yourself in over the course of half a decade.

This is not a difficult concept.

It was his analogy. Don't go whining to me just because you think it was a crap one.

It does not matter whether your still dislike the endings, disliked the EC or feel insulted. They gave a free DLC that cost them a lot of time and money to make. You do NOT deserve another one. It should cost and if your still one of these people then don't buy it. You do not dangle the carrot of "1 more free DLC and I'll start paying in future" next DLC after "Just this one free and I promise I will buy the next", next DLC "Okay just this last one then I really promise with cherry on top I will buy the next".. Just no. They gave you a free DLC compromise that is enough now they need to start charging for any more they make.

"Those people" never existed.  It's a stereotype that was imposed on people who didn't like the endings by people who liked them or didn't believe they should be changed.  It's reductionist comments like these that prove you are more interested in marginalizing people than actually having a real conversation.

Here's what you don't get:  fans have a right to b*tch and moan about whatever the hell they want.  They have a right to offer ultimatums, make demands, shake their fists, and express their displeasure over a product that they feel did not meet their expectations.  The creator of the product has just as much of a right to ignore them or capitulate. 

Complaining about people complaining, on the other hand, is just petty.

Your kidding right? For someone who just went around calling another person vast amount of insults your in no position to bring up the civility of real discussion or conversations. Greed is greed no matter how many excuses you throw at it.

EC was free, an olive branch it cost a lot to make and a lot of people enjoyed it. Some remained unhappy but those ones would of been unhappy regardless after reading these forums and speaking to people on it. They did not care that EC was a compromise between developers right to create the story they want and trying to please as many fans as they could while keeping the integrity of their story wish to tell in their game intact. That is what EC was. It was a free goodwill gesture.

So your still not happy? So what, theres no guarantee you will ever be happy; they should not keeping pumping out free DLC on the off chance you change you mind after your bored and done dangling the carrot on the stick which couldbe never. First one free, rest they should charge for.

I levied one direct insult. As for your points:

1.  Wanting something to be free =/= "greed."  Think about it.  Hell, I'd love it if everything were free - that makes me unrealistic, not greedy. 

2.  You have no idea what would or would not make people who didn't like the EC happy.  I wasn't satisfied with the EC and have laid out time and time again what specific content I personally would have found satisfying.  I understand that you don't always get what you want - but that doesn't mean that there are no conditions under which a person like me could have been made "happy."

3. You must not have been paying attention, because I never said that I wanted the DLC to be free.  I only said that I don't think it's worth bashing people who do.  Most of them don't even realize that free DLC comes with a 2gb xbox download limit and that new missions and storylines will almost never be free.  No need to hold that against them.

4. The first DLC for ME3 was free?

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Kelwing wrote...

No and not expecting it or any other sp dlc to be free. Time is money and people don't sit and do work for nothing.

All the fans that put hundreds of hours into the games feel the same way.
Bioware cannot give us our time back so atleast they should keep make free endings. until they get it right. or grant us a full refund.

No. Do not compare sitting on your arse for few hours a day playing a game series that you enjoyed for many years until the last 15 whatever mins of last game to someone sitting in an office working all day almost every day more than likely and sometimes late into the night for months on end making it.

I did and i will continue. 80 dollars for a product and I am unsatisfied with it? Refund or fix it.
Since biowaste has proven they cannot fix it then a refund is in order.

By the way mac walters and casey hudson were the only people that decided the ending.
betcha i put more hours into mass effect 1 than they did combined working on the ending.

Alright Bioware get to work. You better start working your ass off for free, so this guy can get his ending! 

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Yes it needs to be free or like $2 Max

Why?

because the ec is an explaination of why the garbage stinks opposed to by bioware taking out the garbage and throwing it away

How does that answer my question?

How does it not answer your question?
They did the same sub par with the original endings. Why do they deserve more money for churring out garbage?

So if you flat start with you will drop 60 bucks at a fine dinner and want a full course with salad soup steak etc
You get a burger, a rotten salad and a cockroach in your soup I take it you are the one to eat up all biowaste has to give and say
"Well at least it wasn't two cockroaches."
BUT NO WE CANNOT STOP THERE
Then willing pay an extra ten dollars for a nice slice of rich velvet cake but only get a scoop of melty ice cream after the product before hand was complete utter ****?

I reached the point were it said 'biowaste' and the I stopped reading. If you can't even state your opinion without resorting to childish insults, I'm not going to bother. I'll just leave you with this good old gem: "Don't like it, don't buy it."

bought it day 1 and as a customer i deserve either a good ending or a refund

You don't deserve anything. You paid 60 bucks for a game, and you got a game. You got the free ending DLC, and if you're still not satisfied, well, tough luck. That's life. Sometimes things don't live up to your expectations. 

And who are you to decide that? Customer is always right. I deserve a refund.

I paid 80 dollars. No i didn't get the extended ending because i knew long before it was being worked on that it was not what would do the series justice.

As long as i have my soap box I will yell.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Kelwing wrote...

No and not expecting it or any other sp dlc to be free. Time is money and people don't sit and do work for nothing.

All the fans that put hundreds of hours into the games feel the same way.
Bioware cannot give us our time back so atleast they should keep make free endings. until they get it right. or grant us a full refund.

No. Do not compare sitting on your arse for few hours a day playing a game series that you enjoyed for many years until the last 15 whatever mins of last game to someone sitting in an office working all day almost every day more than likely and sometimes late into the night for months on end making it.

I did and i will continue. 80 dollars for a product and I am unsatisfied with it? Refund or fix it.
Since biowaste has proven they cannot fix it then a refund is in order.

By the way mac walters and casey hudson were the only people that decided the ending.
betcha i put more hours into mass effect 1 than they did combined working on the ending.

Alright Bioware get to work. You better start working your ass off for free, so this guy can get his ending! 

sweet. thanks brah
or they could just give me back my 80 bucks plus tax

either way it would be good :33

btw it's not my ending.
it's an ending that actually makes sense and doesnt ditch narrative coherance, genre, and the central themes of ME :DD

Modifié par Biotic Flash Kick, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:24 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Kelwing wrote...

No and not expecting it or any other sp dlc to be free. Time is money and people don't sit and do work for nothing.

All the fans that put hundreds of hours into the games feel the same way.
Bioware cannot give us our time back so atleast they should keep make free endings. until they get it right. or grant us a full refund.

No. Do not compare sitting on your arse for few hours a day playing a game series that you enjoyed for many years until the last 15 whatever mins of last game to someone sitting in an office working all day almost every day more than likely and sometimes late into the night for months on end making it.

I did and i will continue. 80 dollars for a product and I am unsatisfied with it? Refund or fix it.
Since biowaste has proven they cannot fix it then a refund is in order.

By the way mac walters and casey hudson were the only people that decided the ending.
betcha i put more hours into mass effect 1 than they did combined working on the ending.

Alright Bioware get to work. You better start working your ass off for free, so this guy can get his ending! 

sweet. thanks brah
or they could just give me back my 80 bucks plus tax

either way it would be good :33

You must be very young, to think that's how things work these days.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Kelwing wrote...

No and not expecting it or any other sp dlc to be free. Time is money and people don't sit and do work for nothing.

All the fans that put hundreds of hours into the games feel the same way.
Bioware cannot give us our time back so atleast they should keep make free endings. until they get it right. or grant us a full refund.

No. Do not compare sitting on your arse for few hours a day playing a game series that you enjoyed for many years until the last 15 whatever mins of last game to someone sitting in an office working all day almost every day more than likely and sometimes late into the night for months on end making it.

I did and i will continue. 80 dollars for a product and I am unsatisfied with it? Refund or fix it.
Since biowaste has proven they cannot fix it then a refund is in order.

By the way mac walters and casey hudson were the only people that decided the ending.
betcha i put more hours into mass effect 1 than they did combined working on the ending.

Alright Bioware get to work. You better start working your ass off for free, so this guy can get his ending! 

sweet. thanks brah
or they could just give me back my 80 bucks plus tax

either way it would be good :33

You must be very young, to think that's how things work these days.

Oh i know it's not how it works
but that is how it should work :DD

[Dragoonlordz]

jules_vern18 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Your kidding right? For someone who just went around calling another person vast amount of insults your in no position to bring up the civility of real discussion or conversations. Greed is greed no matter how many excuses you throw at it.

EC was free, an olive branch it cost a lot to make and a lot of people enjoyed it. Some remained unhappy but those ones would of been unhappy regardless after reading these forums and speaking to people on it. They did not care that EC was a compromise between developers right to create the story they want and trying to please as many fans as they could while keeping the integrity of their story wish to tell in their game intact. That is what EC was. It was a free goodwill gesture.

So your still not happy? So what, theres no guarantee you will ever be happy; they should not keeping pumping out free DLC on the off chance you change you mind after your bored and done dangling the carrot on the stick which couldbe never. First one free, rest they should charge for.

I levied one direct insult. As for your points:

1.  Wanting something to be free =/= "greed."  Think about it.  Hell, I'd love it if everything were free - that makes me unrealistic, not greedy. 

2.  You have no idea what would or would not make people who didn't like the EC happy.  I wasn't satisfied with the EC and have laid out time and time again what specific content I personally would have found satisfying.  I understand that you don't always get what you want - but that doesn't mean that there are no conditions under which a person like me could have been made "happy."

3. You must not have been paying attention, because I never said that I wanted the DLC to be free.  I only said that I don't think it's worth bashing people who do.  Most of them don't even realize that free DLC comes with a 2gb xbox download limit and that new missions and storylines will almost never be free.  No need to hold that against them.

4. The first DLC for ME3 was free?

1. It is greed, wanting one thing free (if the developer is willing) you might have a point but when your still asking for more free DLC then dam right it is greed. It has gone past gesture of goodwill and it has decended into pure greed.

2. Noone knows what would make them happy because the DLC does not even exist yet, they may never be happy, they may be happy and claiming they are not to get more freebies, I gave you the dangling carrot analogy. As such Bioware CANNOT take such bait because the intentions of the one making such threats can never be known. The first one EC was free it is the only one that should be free.

3. Funny because your bias is showing clear as day.

4. It did not deserve to be free, it was a CE bonus item that was later opened up to SE users. The CE users paid extra to gain that content. Whether you like game content as part of CE or not is not the point, they paid extra for it so no the SE users should not get it free. I am a SE version owner and even I have enough common sense and logic to know that.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:32 .

[phat0817]

Nah free is over

[IscrewTali]

No. But the day 1 DLC should. Without it people are getting a very different perspective to the entire series. An abomination of a DLC.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...
Oh i know it's not how it works
but that is how it should work :DD

No. Just stop already.

[MrDavid]

No, and I honestly don't think it should. It would come across as catering to fans in order to apologize for the ending crisis. That's not the solution IMO, we need to put this whole thing behind us.

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...
Oh i know it's not how it works
but that is how it should work :DD

No. Just stop already.

Stop what?
A company screwed up. I get my refund and compensation if they want to continue business.

a diner messes up your order
you dont pay a dime.

Modifié par Biotic Flash Kick, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:29 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...
Oh i know it's not how it works
but that is how it should work :DD

No. Just stop already.

Stop what?
A company screwed up. I get my refund and compensation if they want to continue business.

a dinner messes up your order
you dont pay a dime.

Here's your refund, come and get it.

[RenegadeXV]

I'd rather it wasn't free. I want to see what BioWare can do with actual premium DLC for ME3.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

BattlemastaWrex wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

BattlemastaWrex wrote...


Your lack of understanding dumfounds me because you would understand your hypocrisy had you read this: "
To assume because 5 minutes of the game was bad, that future DLC will be the same quality is an asinine belief and to demand that it be free is even more greedy of you. Why? Because if you expect the DLC to be as bad as the original ending, you would truly not want the DLC at all."

I want it free because it will be bad or close to it.
The makeup of Mass effect 3 makes all future pointless and adding little story wise for the game to expand on as the story already ended.
Future DLC will be entirely meaningless and not worth purchasing for the majority for people who previously would've bought everything Mass effect.
The 15 minutes were bad really it made Mass effect 2's and Mass effect 1's plot and story almost irrelevant.
There was more wrong with Mass effect 3 such as limited dialogue and auto dialogue as well as other things.
This game was far from good throughout just because the final 15 minutes were down right awful does not mean I ignore all the other problems with the game.

I don't expect it to be as bad as the ending as it can not be the ending.

But you're making an assumption that just because the vanilla ending to ME3 was bad, that all future SP DLC was bad. It's an unproven assumption with no arguments to back it up. That's why your point is fundamentally wrong.

Mass effect 3 ending is 1 side of my assumptions.
The quality of the previous installments DLC is another side of my assumption, could I see myself wanting to play a ME3 DLC similar to something like Project Overload in size and scope for a price? No

I don't consider the quality of previous installments to be great but when you mix that with a game with bad story writing such as Mass effect 3 it really is a bad time to be thinking about purchasing DLC.

Another side would be the attitude of Bioware and how they managed the situation, they were doing fairly badly early on and then they released EC which was fairly poorly done and added nothing of real value and certainly nothing worth paying for.
They're basically on a fail streak in terms of their ability.

I had to justify purchasing ME2 DLC, that was easy to do as it did add something.
Unfortunately  what Mass effect 3 has done I can only justify the gameplay aspect for my only reason to purchase, but  is entirely irrelevant because I only care about the story and future DLC add, as we already know it doesn't matter what they add.

Modifié par iAFKinMassEffect3, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:37 .

[tonnactus]

Forgot Javik so fast ?

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Biotic Flash Kick wrote...
Oh i know it's not how it works
but that is how it should work :DD

No. Just stop already.

Stop what?
A company screwed up. I get my refund and compensation if they want to continue business.

a dinner messes up your order
you dont pay a dime.

Here's your refund, come and get it.

you are not bioware
i dont want your money

[jules_vern18]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

jules_vern18 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Your kidding right? For someone who just went around calling another person vast amount of insults your in no position to bring up the civility of real discussion or conversations. Greed is greed no matter how many excuses you throw at it.

EC was free, an olive branch it cost a lot to make and a lot of people enjoyed it. Some remained unhappy but those ones would of been unhappy regardless after reading these forums and speaking to people on it. They did not care that EC was a compromise between developers right to create the story they want and trying to please as many fans as they could while keeping the integrity of their story wish to tell in their game intact. That is what EC was. It was a free goodwill gesture.

So your still not happy? So what, theres no guarantee you will ever be happy; they should not keeping pumping out free DLC on the off chance you change you mind after your bored and done dangling the carrot on the stick which couldbe never. First one free, rest they should charge for.

I levied one direct insult. As for your points:

1.  Wanting something to be free =/= "greed."  Think about it.  Hell, I'd love it if everything were free - that makes me unrealistic, not greedy. 

2.  You have no idea what would or would not make people who didn't like the EC happy.  I wasn't satisfied with the EC and have laid out time and time again what specific content I personally would have found satisfying.  I understand that you don't always get what you want - but that doesn't mean that there are no conditions under which a person like me could have been made "happy."

3. You must not have been paying attention, because I never said that I wanted the DLC to be free.  I only said that I don't think it's worth bashing people who do.  Most of them don't even realize that free DLC comes with a 2gb xbox download limit and that new missions and storylines will almost never be free.  No need to hold that against them.

4. The first DLC for ME3 was free?

1. It is greed, wanting one thing free (if the developer is willing) you might have a point but when your still asking for more free DLC then dam right it is greed. It has gone past gesture of goodwill and it has decended into pure greed.

2. Noone knows what would make them happy, they may never be happy, they may be happy and claiming they are not to get more freebies, I gave you the dangling carrot analogy. As such Bioware CANNOT take such bait because the intentions of the one making such threats can never be known. The first one EC was free it is the only one that should be free.

3. Funny because your bias is showing clear as day.

4. It did not deserve to be free, it was a CE bonus item that was later opened up to SE users. The CE users paid extra to gain that content.

I don't think you know what bias means.  Defending someone's perspective does not equal adoption of or bias towards that perspective.  Let me say it again:  I. am. not. asking. for. the. next. dlc. to. be. free. 

As for "From Ashes?"  Come on, man - it's a perfectly valid argument that it should have been in the game to begin with.  It's integral to the plot and provides vital context...Javik was no Kasumi/Zaeed and we shouldn't have had to pay extra for it.  Just my opinion, but I think it's a perfectly valid one.  You might be ok with everything that Bioware ever does/has done/will do, but just because you want to make an excuse for every single oversight doesn't mean that I have to swallow it. 

But that's beyond the point.  I simply said that ME3's first dlc was not free - and it should be said that most fans went ahead and bought if even if they were unhappy with Day 1 paid content.  I think a lot of folks are just resistant to paying more for content after having been burned before.  

Nevertheless, the DLC won't be free.  I just understand why some people would want it to be, unrealistic as that may be.