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Rebel_Raven

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1: A female Krogan multiplayer character. Preferrably a Vanguard.

2: A female Phoenix member.


The reasons behind these requests are why I hate being this sort of person.

1: The latest DLC had -no- women in it. I don't care why it happened, I just don't like it. Simple as that. I won't rant on this.

2: I feel a bit slighted to be blunt. Why?
Male quarians. I know they're not exactly rare, but I felt like the quarians were special being female only in MP up until the recent DLC.  

What with there being only male turians, and only male krogans, and only male drell, only male batarians, only male vorcha, only male phoenix members, ad nauseum in MP, it was nice to have something that was women only, but Asari aside who don't count all that much due to their nature, Quarians were all there were all female up until recent.

There's absolutely no reason, IMO to not have a female Phoenix member, and a female Krogan in the next DLC. 

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How do you know the Vorcha, Drell and Batarians in MP aren't female?

Also, female Krogan would be on Tuchanka repopulating their race, not risking their lives, and therefore the future of their race, fighting.

Modifié par NinthGeorgesw, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:05 .


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Female Krogans don't fit lore(In before s***storm on this one)

Not sure about Phoenix project as I didn't really read anything on them lore wise.

Next DLC, if the leak is to be believed, will be all human characters. Ideally they would just let us choose gender, or else split female/male 50/50.

Drell, Batarian, Vorcha, and Turian all don't have female models in game so it probably wont happen. Turians would probably be easiest since they're supposed to be fairly similar to the males.

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the thing about the next DLC being ONLY humans... i'm not so sure..

it said 6 human classes, not ONLY 6 human classes.. it could be 6 human classes PLUS blah blah lol

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Due to the Krogan nature, Krogan females are unlikely.
Technically, there were no females in Resurgence as well.

Turian ladies would be a nice addition though (for example the biotic classes would be perfect for Turian females). Or female Drell.

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"But the females like to talk about it... then think about it... then talk about it some more!" -Wrex

Despite being Krogan and being capable enough to fight, Krogan females are surprisingly moderate. I doubt that unlike their male counterparts, they go looking for a fight.

I really can't explain the lack of Female Phoenix.

Now I'm not against the addition of more female avatars. The scientist in me IS curious however as to why the sudden call for more female character models.

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MFW female Vorcha and Batarians sound the same as their male counterparts.

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stysiaq wrote...

Due to the Krogan nature, Krogan females are unlikely.
Technically, there were no females in Resurgence as well.

Turian ladies would be a nice addition though (for example the biotic classes would be perfect for Turian females). Or female Drell.

Turian female adept:?............. yes:D

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Cyonan wrote...

Female Krogans don't fit lore(In before s***storm on this one)

Not sure about Phoenix project as I didn't really read anything on them lore wise.

Next DLC, if the leak is to be believed, will be all human characters. Ideally they would just let us choose gender, or else split female/male 50/50.

Drell, Batarian, Vorcha, and Turian all don't have female models in game so it probably wont happen. Turians would probably be easiest since they're supposed to be fairly similar to the males.


I think that the multiplayer models had to be made from scratch. THe fact that there was a Vorcha or two in the campaign doesn't mean that it was easy to implement in MP.

There's also no character resembling kroguard in SP, yet we still got one.

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ForThessia wrote...

stysiaq wrote...

Due to the Krogan nature, Krogan females are unlikely.
Technically, there were no females in Resurgence as well.

Turian ladies would be a nice addition though (for example the biotic classes would be perfect for Turian females). Or female Drell.

Turian female adept:?............. yes:D


"Give us Turian Cabal" is a common request here.
More Turian = better game, Turian females (at least the one in the comic book, and the one mentioned by Garrus) are in the military, I'd like to see a more agile Turian model (enough of this clunky armor!), so I don't see why it shouldn't happen.

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stysiaq wrote...

I think that the multiplayer models had to be made from scratch. THe fact that there was a Vorcha or two in the campaign doesn't mean that it was easy to implement in MP.

There's also no character resembling kroguard in SP, yet we still got one.


I would think they'd reuse assets wherever they could, but I'll admit that modelling and animating aren't really my area of expertise so I don't know entirely.

Either way we probably wont see Female Krogan anyway because lore. Female Turian is probably the most likely since Garrus already mentioned that they're in the military and running high risk missions.

and maybe they'll even be able to roll, since they apparently have flexibility =P

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stysiaq wrote...

There's also no character resembling kroguard in SP, yet we still got one.


The Kroguard is probably based off the standard Krogan, with the armour added on.

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I could live with a turian female. It's not my goal, but the thing is, we've never, truely, verifyably, seen a female Turian in game to my knowings.

Krogan females aren't all fertile, and lore does state there were female warlords. I seriously doubt that krogan females are of a mind enough to never fight. I'd like to think that they are willing, and capable of fighting for their homes, too, instead of staying home and being baby makers.

Further, I've got a friend that loves krogan vanguard. We all know how the krogan vanguard is, joyfully brawling. They're pretty unique in that reguard. Problem is, she doesn't want to be stuck playing a guy in game. I relate to this, too.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:24 .


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Rebel_Raven wrote...

I could live with a turian female. It's not my goal, but the thing is, we've never, truely, verifyably, seen a female Turian in game to my knowings.

Krogan females aren't all fertile, and lore does state there were female warlords. I seriously doubt that krogan females are soft enough to never fight. I'd like to think that they are willing, and capable of fighting for their homes, too, instead of staying home and being baby makers.

Further, I've got a friend that loves krogan vanguard. We all know how the krogan vanguard is, joyfully brawling. They're pretty unique in that reguard. Problem is, she doesn't want to be stuck playing a guy in game. I relate to this, too.


Lore is still not really supporting female krogan being on the unofficial N7 ops teams.

Other species yeah, Krogan not so much.

Either way we're probably getting 6 more humans next DLC anyway.

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Cyonan wrote...

Lore is still not really supporting female krogan being on the unofficial N7 ops teams.

Other species yeah, Krogan not so much.

Either way we're probably getting 6 more humans next DLC anyway.


I don't understand why it is you're saying lore doesn't support it.

Krogans do not have a standard personality set. Anyone that played ME2 (I have, and have no idea how to register the DLC version though, but that's neither here, nor there) knows this.

There is a clan of only women. The women have grown up on the same, rough planet as male krogan, and have to deal with male krogans. They take up all sorts of the same vocations as krogan guys.

Grunt outright says there was atleast one female krogan warlord.

It makes perfect sense to me that some female krogans would decide there's no point in the fertile women having kids if the reapers just kill'em off, along with the rest of the planet, and go out to fight.

I'm not looking at this in a black, and white sense. I'm not going to think of krogan women of having only one role, which is having kids. I'd like to think that krogan socieity is as progressive as the rest of the galaxy in that women would want to do more than be home makers.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:35 .


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Rebel_Raven wrote...
2: A female Phoenix member.


Yes, please. A female Phonex Infiltrator who can perform combat roles, carries a long sword and gets a nice bonus for cloaked melee attacks

:D

Modifié par JustAnotherVanguard, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:38 .


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How do we know the Vorcha aren't female? I mean, sure, their voices sound kind masculine, but do we really know much about the Vorcha?

The batarians, yeah, considering how similar their body (not their head,) looks to humans, I'm guessing females look similar to human females, just with four eyes.

Krogan females are too smart to jump into the field of a pointless battle. We'll never see them in Multiplayer.

Would definitely like seeing female Turians, though not biotic, maybe tech. Turian Engineer and Infiltrator, where they can put that flexability to use.

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Rebel_Raven wrote...
I don't understand why it is you're saying lore doesn't support it.

Krogans do not have a standard personality set. Anyone that played ME2 (I have, and have no idea how to register the DLC version though, but that's neither here, nor there) knows this.

There is a clan of only women. The women have grown up on the same, rough planet as male krogan, and have to deal with male krogans. They take up all sorts of the same vocations as krogan guys.

Grunt outright says there was atleast one female krogan warlord.

It makes perfect sense to me that some female krogans would decide there's no point in the fertile women having kids if the reapers just kill'em off, along with the rest of the planet, and go out to fight.

I'm not looking at this in a black, and white sense. I'm not going to think of krogan women of having only one role, which is having kids. I'd like to think that krogan socieity is as progressive as the rest of the galaxy in that women would want to do more than be home makers.


Because Wrex/Wreav would always send more males to fight if the Alliance or anyone ever asked for more spec ops soldiers.

They're fighting for the survival of their species(remember that no outcome with the Krogan is canon in SP) and when you're doing so it isn't about what you want to do but rather what you need to do. Females are far more important to a species continuing on than males are, so you can't really afford to be sending them off on suicide missions when you've still got expendable males sitting around.

The Krogan Female don't only have one role, but the ME universe has set it up in such a way that front line fighting is not typically one of them. One female warlord doesn't really mean that suddenly the whole species changes the way it's been acting for the last 3 games.

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Very true in regards to the female warlord, remember that took place in a time before the Genophage. Who cares if someone got killed then? They were weak.

Following the Genophage, females who were still somewhat fertile were suddenly guarded with a ferocity that was unparalleled. Sterile females greatly outnumbered them. Why should they try to protect a future that was doomed anyway?

Wrex didn't see a point to the Krogan even fighting as they were against the Reapers the way the Krogan were then which is why he demanded the cure in return for his people's help elsewhere. They could barely hold Tuchunka as it is. Why should they care about helping a Galaxy that screwed them over? Better they all die to protect their own turf then give a **** about the Council Races.

Pending extinction PRIOR to the harvesting machines of death has a way of coloring someone's outlook into "Why should I help you when you tried to eradicate me and all those like me?" kind of view.

Certainly their outlook would have changed if you cured the Genophage. Keyword being IF. You still have the option to screw the Krogan over and some people may have taken it. I know I have at least one playthrough where I screwed 'em over just to see what the outcome was.

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Female Phoenix Sentinel could work.

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Cyonan wrote...

Because Wrex/Wreav would always send more males to fight if the Alliance or anyone ever asked for more spec ops soldiers.

They're fighting for the survival of their species(remember that no outcome with the Krogan is canon in SP) and when you're doing so it isn't about what you want to do but rather what you need to do. Females are far more important to a species continuing on than males are, so you can't really afford to be sending them off on suicide missions when you've still got expendable males sitting around.

The Krogan Female don't only have one role, but the ME universe has set it up in such a way that front line fighting is not typically one of them. One female warlord doesn't really mean that suddenly the whole species changes the way it's been acting for the last 3 games.


That doesn't mean that there wouldn't be some krogan women out there, IMO.

I seriously doubt there was only one female warlord. Grunt only mentioned one, however, and she was likely out fighting the turians to get killed by them.

I seriously doubt that krogan women wouldn't pick up a shotgun, and fight for their planet, male krogans be damned. 

As there's no canon outcome with the krogan, then arguing that one outcome is a viable reason that there aren't any female krogans fighting is as moot as saying that the other outcomes aren't viable, IMO. You can not discount some outcomes, and not others.

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There wouldn't be Krogan females as soldiers. When your race is dying out due to lack of fertile females, you don't send them into battle. I figured that much was kind of obvious.

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The fact is that since the genophage, female Krogan aren't even allowed to leave Tuchanka.

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Lore, and citing it: Female Krogan are no strangers to battle. I mean, it is, in fact, harder to have Krogan babies if the entire galaxy is dead, yeah?

Phoenix woman: Nothing wrong with that, either.

From a non-Lore perspective: Anything is good as long as it tries to be unique and increases the fun of the game.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:56 .


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Female Turian infiltrator - with the sentinel heavy melee. Slim Turians were in the EC...
Edit: Maybe they'll be able to roll...

Modifié par kevosama, 02 juillet 2012 - 11:59 .