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[EnvyTB075]

wantedman dan wrote...
You didn't finish the analogy.

Therefore, genocide of all caucasians is mandated.

Therefore Nuclear War is the only solution. Quick, grab your heads of state now, we must obliterate everything because of probability!

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Whoa. O_O

[mauro2222]

saracen16 wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

that conflict between organics and synthetics is not inevitable.

And the geth who drove the Quarians into exile, the Zha'til, the Metacons, and Project Overlord suddenly mean nothing? Regardless of the outcomes of these situations, conflict DID happen.

The Quarians started the conflict out of fear of an uprising, the Zha'til were controlled by the Reapers, Metacon is the name of the war, and Project Overlord is proof of human stupidity.

[wantedman dan]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...
You didn't finish the analogy.

Therefore, genocide of all caucasians is mandated.

Therefore Nuclear War is the only solution. Quick, grab your heads of state now, we must obliterate everything because of probability!

But not if you choose to enslave the caucasians.

[3DandBeyond]

Beliar86 wrote...

After reading that she wanted a generic style ending I was like lol no.

I'm not the biggest fan of the one we got but at least it's not derivative. They just needed to give the catalyst a more logical reasoning and it would be fine.

I don't mean to be argumentative but are you kidding me, it's not derivative?  It comes directly from many other sources and was mashed together to make it kinda sorta fit, some other game.  Chaos and order, from Babylon 5, a particular favorite of some at Bioware.  The original ending set, directly from Deus Ex (2000)-Control, Destroy, Merge.  The new one is more like a later Deus Ex - Human Revolution.  There are things derived from the Matrix as well (also something they clearly looked at for an ending idea as shown on a notepad in The Final Hours).  It is exactly because it is way too derivative that is the main problem.  The ending, no matter what with the star kid is not ME3's ending.  The kid does not fit the game and is inserted in the last 20 minutes (roughly .3%) of the game.  He takes on a major role but was not the major threat.  He is nonsensical-looking and uses garbage logic.  Nothing fixes him and the EC didn't fix this ending-it made it sound prettier and smarter, but it got dumber.

The kid was created and created the first reaper from his creators.  The kid is the combined intelligence of all reapers.  What was he before the reapers were created then?  And he created them but he is them, so they created themselves?  And his creators created him but he created the reapers from his creators but the reapers are him?  So, in essence his creators in creating him, created themselves just as the kid created the reapers which are him, so he created himself. 

And furthermore, the kid was created by somebody (himself or Bob the reaper) to find balance between synthetics and organics because they can't learn to get along.  Ok, they can learn to get along even if the geth problem hadn't been solved.  It's still a possibility, unless one is fatalistic and just gives up and thinks the worst will always happen.  The only real synthetics destroying organics problem is the reapers-certainly they seem hell bent on always destroying organics (and don't give me that BS that they are ascending them--they kill a lot of organics).  So, the kid is the reapers who are destroying organics (don't care if they are just like a cleansing fire BS-Sovereign and Harbinger clearly knew what they were doing).  The kid is the reapers who are destroying organics so in order to achieve balance the kid needs to be destroyed.  He is the problem.  In and outside of the story he does not fit.  The reapers were awesome and could have made for some fantastic endgames.  A faceoff with Harbinger and so on.  They had an ending staring them in the face and decided to be artistic, with someone else's art, endings to other games and movies.

[Johanna]

LinksOcarina wrote...

I find this funny, Star Trek is a poorly written TV show to begin with, you would think BioWare would offer them help in making conflict...

Maybe you could help.  You certainly seem to love it enough.

[EnvyTB075]

wantedman dan wrote...
But not if you choose to enslave the caucasians.

I knew there would be a use for those microchips...

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 03 juillet 2012 - 01:51 .

[Jamie9]

wantedman dan wrote...

Or destroy those asians because genocide

I refuse to be part of this. Ima let all caucasians and asians die out. Because... well, because.

[mauro2222]

The technolgical singularity is in the head of the Catalyst, he's the one creating it and the one supporting it.

[wantedman dan]

Jamie9 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Or destroy those asians because genocide

I refuse to be part of this. Ima let all caucasians and asians die out. Because... well, because.

My logic is terrible so stand there and contemplate it while I sh*t on everything you know and love.

[Jamie9]

wantedman dan wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Or destroy those asians because genocide

I refuse to be part of this. Ima let all caucasians and asians die out. Because... well, because.

My logic is terrible so stand there and contemplate it while I sh*t on everything you know and love.

*stands there*

2 hours later

*Begins to swing mildly from side to side*

2 hours later

*Falls over*

Shepard: "Wait... must... get... last... words... I... don't know"

[wantedman dan]

Jamie9 wrote...

*stands there*

2 hours later

*Begins to swing mildly from side to side*

2 hours later

*Falls over*

Shepard: "Wait... must... get... last... words... I... don't know"

Yes. Your loss of blood pleases me.

[LinksOcarina]

DungeonHoek wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I find this funny, Star Trek is a poorly written TV show to begin with, you would think BioWare would offer them help in making conflict...

Yeah, so poorly written that its had roughly 12 movies. 5 TV series most of which lasted for 7 seasons, one animated TV series, at least one toy line. And probably have more on the way. In a series which has been around for about 40 years.

Meanwhile, thanks to the third and supposed final installment of the series, there is no knowing what is in the future for Mass Effect. Aside from DLC.

And were basing good writing on how long the series run now?

Thats funny.

Here is a little tip that trekkies can't admit, the holo-deck was used as a plot device almost yearly as it TRIED TO KILL PEOPLE during that show, at least six times. Or how about Voyager and enterprise, which people don't even watch because they were so damn ****ty it was not worth the time of day. 

I don't care how old or classic or endearing the show is, poorly written is poorly written. Of course, I can look past that if i'm entertained in the end. Sadly, Star Trek never did that for me, but then again I like fantastical fantasy like Star Wars and Firefly better. 

[LinksOcarina]

pants witch wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I find this funny, Star Trek is a poorly written TV show to begin with, you would think BioWare would offer them help in making conflict...

Maybe you could help.  You certainly seem to love it enough.

Star Trek needs more than my help to be worth a damn. 

[mauro2222]

I lover her "EA/Bioware = Condescending Jackasses" post

LinksOcarina, you can say it doesn't entertain you, but you can't say it's full of bad writing.

Modifié par mauro2222, 03 juillet 2012 - 01:59 .

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Greylycantrope wrote...

I found one for you DinoSteve http://www.melindasn...og/bad-guys.html

Thanks. I must say I can't find anything I disagree with in that.

[wantedman dan]

LinksOcarina wrote...

And were basing good writing on how long the series run now?

Thats funny.

Here is a little tip that trekkies can't admit, the holo-deck was used as a plot device almost yearly as it TRIED TO KILL PEOPLE during that show, at least six times. Or how about Voyager and enterprise, which people don't even watch because they were so damn ****ty it was not worth the time of day. 

I don't care how old or classic or endearing the show is, poorly written is poorly written. Of course, I can look past that if i'm entertained in the end. Sadly, Star Trek never did that for me, but then again I like fantastical fantasy like Star Wars and Firefly better. 

The point being, determination of something being worthwhile and of quality to a person is inherently subjective.

Way to miss it.

[xsdob]

Well now I feel like ferengi **** because I liked the endings and the EC.

Think ill go wallow now that I've been told I like insults and **** by a writter, that you STTNG writter for making me feel so low.

goodbye.

Modifié par xsdob, 03 juillet 2012 - 06:32 .

[LinksOcarina]

wantedman dan wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

And were basing good writing on how long the series run now?

Thats funny.

Here is a little tip that trekkies can't admit, the holo-deck was used as a plot device almost yearly as it TRIED TO KILL PEOPLE during that show, at least six times. Or how about Voyager and enterprise, which people don't even watch because they were so damn ****ty it was not worth the time of day. 

I don't care how old or classic or endearing the show is, poorly written is poorly written. Of course, I can look past that if i'm entertained in the end. Sadly, Star Trek never did that for me, but then again I like fantastical fantasy like Star Wars and Firefly better. 

The point being, determination of something being worthwhile and of quality to a person is inherently subjective.

Way to miss it.

No I got the point.

It's a stupid point though.

[wantedman dan]

LinksOcarina wrote...

No I got the point.

It's a stupid point though.

Your corner.

Go and sulk in it.

[chemiclord]

I'm mildly amused that a writer for a series that was one of the most gregarious abusers of "space magic" in the history of media is presuming to correct Mass Effect's use of "space magic."

That said, I'll probably give the idea a look. Can't be worse than what Bioware ran with.

[KeraWildmane]

saracen16 wrote...

AtlasMickey wrote...

that conflict between organics and synthetics is not inevitable.

And the geth who drove the Quarians into exile, the Zha'til, the Metacons, and Project Overlord suddenly mean nothing? Regardless of the outcomes of these situations, conflict DID happen.

Quarians attacked first in the Morning War and Project Overlord was a Cerberus plot gone wrong (or worse, depending on how you look at it). It is not inevitable for synthetics to rise up against organics.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

She'd solve all ME3's problem by attaching Deflector shields to all the ships.

[DungeonHoek]

LinksOcarina wrote...

DungeonHoek wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

I find this funny, Star Trek is a poorly written TV show to begin with, you would think BioWare would offer them help in making conflict...

Yeah, so poorly written that its had roughly 12 movies. 5 TV series most of which lasted for 7 seasons, one animated TV series, at least one toy line. And probably have more on the way. In a series which has been around for about 40 years.

Meanwhile, thanks to the third and supposed final installment of the series, there is no knowing what is in the future for Mass Effect. Aside from DLC.

And were basing good writing on how long the series run now?

Thats funny.

Here is a little tip that trekkies can't admit, the holo-deck was used as a plot device almost yearly as it TRIED TO KILL PEOPLE during that show, at least six times. Or how about Voyager and enterprise, which people don't even watch because they were so damn ****ty it was not worth the time of day. 

I don't care how old or classic or endearing the show is, poorly written is poorly written. Of course, I can look past that if i'm entertained in the end. Sadly, Star Trek never did that for me, but then again I like fantastical fantasy like Star Wars and Firefly better. 

Actually, what I AM saying is that if it were so poorly written Star Trek would not have lasted. Nor continue to be around. Its record rather speaks for itself.

And you are correct about the Holodeck plot recycling, though I don't entirely agree about quality. But preference's are preferences.

[Barnzy]

Well she's apparently appearing at Comic-Con (according to her site). It'd be awsome if she'd approach the Bioware booth there.