chemiclord wrote...
I'm mildly amused that a writer for a series that was one of the most gregarious abusers of "space magic" in the history of media is presuming to correct Mass Effect's use of "space magic."
That said, I'll probably give the idea a look. Can't be worse than what Bioware ran with.
DungeonHoek wrote...
LinksOcarina wrote...
DungeonHoek wrote...
LinksOcarina wrote...
I find this funny, Star Trek is a poorly written TV show to begin with, you would think BioWare would offer them help in making conflict...
Yeah, so poorly written that its had roughly 12 movies. 5 TV series most of which lasted for 7 seasons, one animated TV series, at least one toy line. And probably have more on the way. In a series which has been around for about 40 years.
Meanwhile, thanks to the third and supposed final installment of the series, there is no knowing what is in the future for Mass Effect. Aside from DLC.
And were basing good writing on how long the series run now?
Thats funny.
Here is a little tip that trekkies can't admit, the holo-deck was used as a plot device almost yearly as it TRIED TO KILL PEOPLE during that show, at least six times. Or how about Voyager and enterprise, which people don't even watch because they were so damn ****ty it was not worth the time of day.
I don't care how old or classic or endearing the show is, poorly written is poorly written. Of course, I can look past that if i'm entertained in the end. Sadly, Star Trek never did that for me, but then again I like fantastical fantasy like Star Wars and Firefly better.
Actually, what I AM saying is that if it were so poorly written Star Trek would not have lasted. Nor continue to be around. Its record rather speaks for itself.
And you are correct about the Holodeck plot recycling, though I don't entirely agree about quality. But preference's are preferences.
Me1mN0t wrote...
Subjective opinions on writing quality are subjective.
I approve competent scifi writers replacing incompetent scifi writers. Make it happen.
Random thought: Playing through ME3 again... The genophage/Tuchanka story arc was so damn awesome. Why can't the whole game be more like that??? I get goosebumps every time the Tonka truck convoy comes up...the music
Kerasth wrote...
saracen16 wrote...
AtlasMickey wrote...
that conflict between organics and synthetics is not inevitable.
And the geth who drove the Quarians into exile, the Zha'til, the Metacons, and Project Overlord suddenly mean nothing? Regardless of the outcomes of these situations, conflict DID happen.
Quarians attacked first in the Morning War and Project Overlord was a Cerberus plot gone wrong (or worse, depending on how you look at it). It is not inevitable for synthetics to rise up against organics.
wantedman dan wrote...
saracen16 wrote...
AtlasMickey wrote...
that conflict between organics and synthetics is not inevitable.
And the geth who drove the Quarians into exile, the Zha'til, the Metacons, and Project Overlord suddenly mean nothing? Regardless of the outcomes of these situations, conflict DID happen.
Conflict is inevitable between ALL sapient creatures, ergo genocide is justified?
DinoSteve wrote...
tbf at the time there was **** all good scifi on tv
3DandBeyond wrote...
wantedman dan wrote...
saracen16 wrote...
AtlasMickey wrote...
that conflict between organics and synthetics is not inevitable.
And the geth who drove the Quarians into exile, the Zha'til, the Metacons, and Project Overlord suddenly mean nothing? Regardless of the outcomes of these situations, conflict DID happen.
Conflict is inevitable between ALL sapient creatures, ergo genocide is justified?
Conflict is a constant but so too are ways of avoiding it or determining to be better. We use imagination to find new ways to solve problems and the imagination is limitless except when it comes to certain video game endings.
Genocide is never justified.
The geth were concerned with self-preservation. They retreated from conflict. Project Overlord was an abomination of a project that involved one attempt at a type of synthesis or hybridization of human thought and tech. Yes, conflict happened, but it also was ended. Archer, who forced this upon his own brother actually even may have learned from the bad thing he did. This is the best outcome for conflict with the most reward.
Conflict isn't even necessarily always avoided or to be avoided. If a person states opinions and no one ever disagrees with that person just to avoid conflict, are they doing the right or the wrong thing? Conflict may be exactly what is needed in many cases. War not so much. And the kid equates conflict with war, meaning he sees conflict as war which is really stupid. Synthetics and organics may disagree because they want different things, but is it better for everyone to want the same thing?
DungeonHoek wrote...
True, very true.
But, that doesn't change the fact that a truly bad show or movie will never last.
People will go "we hate it" and stop paying attention to it. And that's just fact.
One of my favorite lines in the game (though there are many, Mordin-everything Mordin), is when Shepard says, "there's a reaper in my way Wrex." I just can't see how that whole story is in the same game as the star kid. The ending of any game is the payoff point. I still don't think there was one. The choices are atrocious as to what they really mean-2 mean people cannot stand on their own ever. 1 is an obvious middle finger to players. And the other is still genocide of people Shepard helped attain life. And they are still promoted by the star kid, the stupidest AI ever.Me1mN0t wrote...
Subjective opinions on writing quality are subjective.
I approve competent scifi writers replacing incompetent scifi writers. Make it happen.
Random thought: Playing through ME3 again... The genophage/Tuchanka story arc was so damn awesome. Why can't the whole game be more like that??? I get goosebumps every time the Tonka truck convoy comes up...the music
Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 03 juillet 2012 - 02:29 .
Jamie9 wrote...
DungeonHoek wrote...
True, very true.
But, that doesn't change the fact that a truly bad show or movie will never last.
People will go "we hate it" and stop paying attention to it. And that's just fact.
The Tranformers films.
And they will keep making sequels to Transformers with bigger explosions until the end of time.
Jamie9 wrote...
DungeonHoek wrote...
True, very true.
But, that doesn't change the fact that a truly bad show or movie will never last.
People will go "we hate it" and stop paying attention to it. And that's just fact.
The Tranformers films.
And they will keep making sequels to Transformers with bigger explosions until the end of time.
wantedman dan wrote...
And if enough people think it's of quality, it will be reproduced over and over until then.
Jamie9 wrote...
wantedman dan wrote...
And if enough people think it's of quality, it will be reproduced over and over until then.
Thank god for humans and their mindless love of explosions, bad acting and no plot.
The first film (2007) was actually of quality. The 2nd and 3rd are just rehashes.
wantedman dan wrote...
Thank you for proving my point. I would have gotten around to something like that, in a much more aesthetic and finessed way of course.
Oh, and one that would express my humility.
Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 03 juillet 2012 - 02:30 .
wantedman dan wrote...
I tend to headcanon-as-I-go during a movie and explain things for myself. Because of that, I happened to have liked those two movies.
Same with The Matrix trilogy. Most people despise the ending of Revolutions, but I don't.
Dragon Age: Origins is not Mass Effect 3 and the Archdemon does not compare to the Reapers. In fact, the Archdemon was shown in the first game of that series while the Catalyst was introduced in the end of this series. We don't know if the Dragon Age team is going to reveal something in their next project akin to the Catalyst in Mass Effect.Greylycantrope wrote...
I found one for you DinoSteve http://www.melindasn...og/bad-guys.html
Modifié par Hudathan, 03 juillet 2012 - 02:31 .
3DandBeyond wrote...
Well of course. I'm beyond humility. I am beyond finesse and nuance and subtlety. I glow green so that I may be seen and agreeable.
There are times when I try to be more careful with my words, but I seriously have issues with the attempt to dress the ending up and show it off to respectable folks.
LinksOcarina wrote...
pants witch wrote...
LinksOcarina wrote...
I find this funny, Star Trek is a poorly written TV show to begin with, you would think BioWare would offer them help in making conflict...
Maybe you could help. You certainly seem to love it enough.
Star Trek needs more than my help to be worth a damn.
Jamie9 wrote...
wantedman dan wrote...
I tend to headcanon-as-I-go during a movie and explain things for myself. Because of that, I happened to have liked those two movies.
Same with The Matrix trilogy. Most people despise the ending of Revolutions, but I don't.
I... I've only ever watched the first two Matrix films. Due to the utter disdain the last movie has generated, I see no reason for me to watch it.
Did you like Sentinel Prime? I couldn't help but laugh at his design every time he was on screen.
DungeonHoek wrote...
Well, there is no accounting for the anomally that is Micheal Bay and those terribad movies. That's one I can't figure out, except that maybe people just like boobs and explosions THAT MUCH that they don't care what they are looking at otherwise.
But take note that it seems like there are no more AVP movies in the works, especially after AVPR. Aka, Dawson's Creek featuring Alien and Predator.
wantedman dan wrote...
I was in pure awe of the fact that it was Leonard Nimoy. I couldn't care less about the design. lol.
DungeonHoek wrote...
Jamie9 wrote...
DungeonHoek wrote...
True, very true.
But, that doesn't change the fact that a truly bad show or movie will never last.
People will go "we hate it" and stop paying attention to it. And that's just fact.
The Tranformers films.
And they will keep making sequels to Transformers with bigger explosions until the end of time.
Well, there is no accounting for the anomally that is Micheal Bay and those terribad movies. That's one I can't figure out, except that maybe people just like boobs and explosions THAT MUCH that they don't care what they are looking at otherwise.
But take note that it seems like there are no more AVP movies in the works, especially after AVPR. Aka, Dawson's Creek featuring Alien and Predator.
DinoSteve wrote...
DungeonHoek wrote...
Jamie9 wrote...
DungeonHoek wrote...
True, very true.
But, that doesn't change the fact that a truly bad show or movie will never last.
People will go "we hate it" and stop paying attention to it. And that's just fact.
The Tranformers films.
And they will keep making sequels to Transformers with bigger explosions until the end of time.
Well, there is no accounting for the anomally that is Micheal Bay and those terribad movies. That's one I can't figure out, except that maybe people just like boobs and explosions THAT MUCH that they don't care what they are looking at otherwise.
But take note that it seems like there are no more AVP movies in the works, especially after AVPR. Aka, Dawson's Creek featuring Alien and Predator.
some one say boobs
Where?
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