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[JaegerBane]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Medium range only: Argus. Great damage, decent accuracy for that range, and the sound, oh the wonder full sound.

This was the very last weapon I'd expect to hear mentioned on a thread titled 'Whats the best Assault Rifle?'.

I suppose its got a nice model and sound, I'll give it that. Tho having a weapon that sounds like that but requires 20+ rounds to reliably bring down an assault trooper kind of blunts it.

[Allstar27]

The best assault rifle for me would have to be the N7 Valkyrie I don't know why but I just love the gun for SP

[Karimloo]

Harrier, but I havent used it.

it looks like the Scar from Crysis AND it's full auto.

So.. Please boxes, give it to me.

[capn233]

Karimloo wrote...

Harrier, but I havent used it.

it looks like the Scar from Crysis AND it's full auto.

So.. Please boxes, give it to me.

Hmmm.  I don't know what the Scar looks like in Crysis, but if it is like the FN SCAR then I don't really see the resemblance.  Harrier reminds me more of a space-FAMAS, even though clearly the proportions are very different.

[Urbynwyldcat]

Avenger may not be the 'best' but still my favourite.

[poptdp]

Harrier. Hands down. But unfortunately MP only

[AlexPorto111]

I would say that the Revenant is my favorite.Also the Saber and Phaeston.I really want to use the Cerberus Harrier in SP,it would probably be among my favorites weapons.

[esalor]

I love the Valkyrie.

Saber is also very good and it sounds amazing too. So punchy.

[Darth_Atreyu]

Cerberus Harrier.

[wong990616]

Particle and M-99 Saber

[Cyberstrike nTo]

ff-leishi01 wrote...

I loathe the Revenant, even with the stability upgrades, its still a **** to control for me, so I've been using the Phaeston, which is good all round, but I want a powerful rifle with good accuracy. Suggestions? Thanks! Xx

I LOVE the Revenant modded with themal clips and extended barrell. It's the best weapon in franchise as far as I'm concerned.

Since you don't like the Revenant I would recommed The Saber it is IMHO the second best weapon and it's very powerful and pretty accurate but it's has low ammo count even nwith a level 5 thermal clip mod.

[disappearingone11]

Imanol de Tafalla wrote...

The Geth Pulse Rifle is quite good. It's only draw back is the damage per shot.

Low damage per shot, but the stability makes targetting a breeze, so headshots are easy. My main issue with the GPR is its slow reload time.

I'd really like to try out the harrier, but it just will not unlock. I'd gladly trade any of my other ultra rares for it. The vindicator remains my favorite rifle in the meantime: it's not the best at anything, but it's good for pretty much everything.

[the red boon]

ff-leishi01 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

ff-leishi01 wrote...

What has everyone been using on insanity? See I stuck with Phaeston X but, well, its just not doing the damage I was hoping for on Insanity Xx

I use the Revenant on insanity.

Awesome Does the accuracy not bother you? Xx

Slap a scope on it and use armor piercing mod with incendiary upgraded to explosive. You'll chew threw normal troopers and eat armored units.

[JaegerBane]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Erm, ... no?

With that gun I can take out most enemies fast and an Assault Trooper on insanity difficulty doesn't last more than three or at maximum four bursts (without ammo powers/with ammo powers it's more or less always three bursts tops until those guys drop). edit:// Top of the head figures, had used the Argus quite a bit before the hiatus waiting for the EC so my numbers may not be accurate, but the weapon surely did not require shots even remotely to that count you mentioned to drop enemies.

Plus, the weapon as a good combination of firepower and RoF to apply ammo power's effects like the Inferno ammo burst, the Disruptor stun and the Cryo freezing.

Just don't try to use it beyond medium range, because the kick will send two shots of the three-round-burst off target, even with the Recoil Dampener depending on how far exactly the target is.
But within the limits of medium range, this weapon is king. More accurate than the Revenant (especially beccause the Revenant sprays like hell), arguably the same or, with reliable headshots that you can't really get on the Revenant due to spray, even considerably more damage output.


If you're wondering what medium range exactly is, it's the range where you can still reliably aim and hit without zooming in, which also helps with the Argus' recoil because hipfire generates less of it.

That weapon is boss!

Its good that you've found a use for it, but what you're promoting there is your perseverence and ability to compensate for recoil, not the rifle. At the end of the day, a rifle that weighs the top end of its class and that needs a boatload of mods, practice and positioning purely to perform to the level of the rest of the rifles in its weight class is simply not worth anyone's time.

If you're a headshot player, there are better rifles to use.

If you're a DPS'er, there are better rifles to use.

If you want ammo procs, there are better rifles to use.

If you seek balance between the three, there are better rifles to use.

In practical terms the only thing the Argus is genuinely good at is short range fighting, which minimises the effects of its recoil... which then opens up the question of why you're you're fighting at short range with an AR when a lighter shotgun (such as the wraith) could achieve the same, and equally heavy shotgun (such as the Graal) could outperform it at longer ranges.

I think thats the basic issue I have with it. In game terms, its a mediocre shotgun.

Also, your point about medium range doesn't really compute. The range that you can 'reliably aim and hit without zooming in' isn't the same for all ARs so that doesn't work as a point of equal comparison. In the Argus's case its similar to the Revenant (which its largely equal or inferior to in every stat), shorter than the Avenger and Mattock and significantly shorter than things like the Falcon and Particle Rifle.

In most player's cases you'll find medium range to most players is greater than 10 metres out and shorter than need-a-scope-to-see-clearly distances.... and hence, to most players, the Argus isn't really effective at 'medium' range.

Modifié par JaegerBane, 06 juillet 2012 - 12:03 .

[torabashiri]

The Revenant was my fav in ME2, but I dislike it in MP. In ME3, I've been stuck on the particle rifle. I can walk my fire onto other targets or follow a moving one.

[torabashiri]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

ff-leishi01 wrote...

I loathe the Revenant, even with the stability upgrades, its still a **** to control for me, so I've been using the Phaeston, which is good all round, but I want a powerful rifle with good accuracy. Suggestions? Thanks! Xx

I LOVE the Revenant modded with themal clips and extended barrell. It's the best weapon in franchise as far as I'm concerned.

Since you don't like the Revenant I would recommed The Saber it is IMHO the second best weapon and it's very powerful and pretty accurate but it's has low ammo count even nwith a level 5 thermal clip mod.

I've recently been trying out the Sabre on MP.  At first I had to use a Geth Submachinegun to take out the fast small fry, but I've gotten more accurate with the Sabre to the point where I can use it even against swarmers.

[DHagman]

m-99 saber

[Zaidra]

Unless you're very good at getting headshots, don't bother with the Saber. It's ammo capacity (even with upgrades) don't leave room for missing, and it's fire rate is very slow. It's supposed to be treated like a hybrid between a sniper rifle and an assault rifle.

If you want a powerful weapon with high ammo capacity and good accuracy, try the Mattock (which is arguably the best assault rifle in the game) with a level V stability mod, and an ammo capacity mod, that way you have plenty of ammo and good stability. It's also a very light weapon, good for spamming powers while still dealing out a lot of damage.

the Phaeston is one of my favs, but it's slightly too heavy for me and not quite powerful enough. With the right mods, it can be dangerous, but that means giving up the ammo or stability, which are both deadly blows to my personal effectiveness (as my computer begins to overheat around wave 6 of every match, thus blowing my aiming powers altogether.)

Besides that, if you like the firing style of the Vindicator, try that on for size. With mods, it as pretty good stability and enough ammo capacity to survive on. If you aren't going to go with a high level mattock, the phaeston, or the saber, then I suggest that.

The striker, Falcon, and Revenant are way too heavy for what they do. The Geth pulse rifle and collector assault rifle don't do enough damage.

The Cerberus Harrier is an awesome gun, dealing out tons of damage, but it has a very low ammo capacity and unless you're standing out of cover, it's very inaccurate.

All of this is assuming you're playing gold and this stuff matters to you. otherwise, just have fun with it. Power cooldown and weapon weight don't matter as much in silver and bronze. If you're on those levels, then just choose whichever one you work with the best and go with it. Unfortunately, gold level seems to have some standards, and if you don't meet those, you often get kicked. So the weapons I listed above are the ones to use.

Depending on whether you're playing single player or multiplayer, I would suggest the N7 Valkyrie, but that's just because I like the style, and paired with explosive incendiary rounds, it can tear through any enemy, even on insanity.

[Kit-103]

Zaidra wrote...
If you want a powerful weapon with high ammo capacity and good accuracy, try the Mattock (which is arguably the best assault rifle in the game) with a level V stability mod

Dump the stability mod and slap on an extended barrel or AP mod. Mattock doesn't need a stability mod.

I'd go with the Mattock. It's just...right. Weight, damage, accuarcy and RoF. Slap on the right mods and you've got a death machine.

*The Argus took some getting used to. The weight puts it on the heavier side and even with a stability mod, you need to learn to compensate for the recoil when not firing from cover. Though once you get the hang of it, the damage is worth it, at least to me. Plus it's got great ammo for those extended battles.

No comment on the Harrier. Wish I had that weapon in SP. Seems like such a beast weapon, even with the low spare ammo count.

The Saber isn't bad. Excellent damage but the RoF kills it in CQC. It's meant more for medium to long range combat and that's where it really shines. Slap on a scope and either an ammo mod or extended barrel and oh boy...

*To me, the Valkyrie is almost like a mix between the Mattock and the Argus. Slapping on a stability mod takes care of most of the recoil issues. Like the Mattock, it's got great accuarcy and like the Argus, it's wonderful for those extended battles. The damage is a little bit lower then Mattock but slapping on extended barrel seems to take care of that issue.

And then there's the Particle Rifle but seeing as what many people have been saying here...

*The Solider class, IMO, can get better use out of the Argus and Valkyrie when it comes to the ammo reserves. Ammo powers, when evolved to include to spare ammo (something I always choose), it certainly adds up. That's why I end up favoring those two over the Mattock sometimes. Plus with the weight of both, they're not great for power dependent classes.

Damn...now I don't know which AR to use! XD

[Blue 007]

Zaidra wrote...

Unless you're very good at getting headshots, don't bother with the Saber. It's ammo capacity (even with upgrades) don't leave room for missing, and it's fire rate is very slow. It's supposed to be treated like a hybrid between a sniper rifle and an assault rifle.

If you want a powerful weapon with high ammo capacity and good accuracy, try the Mattock (which is arguably the best assault rifle in the game) with a level V stability mod, and an ammo capacity mod, that way you have plenty of ammo and good stability. It's also a very light weapon, good for spamming powers while still dealing out a lot of damage.

the Phaeston is one of my favs, but it's slightly too heavy for me and not quite powerful enough. With the right mods, it can be dangerous, but that means giving up the ammo or stability, which are both deadly blows to my personal effectiveness (as my computer begins to overheat around wave 6 of every match, thus blowing my aiming powers altogether.)

Besides that, if you like the firing style of the Vindicator, try that on for size. With mods, it as pretty good stability and enough ammo capacity to survive on. If you aren't going to go with a high level mattock, the phaeston, or the saber, then I suggest that.

The striker, Falcon, and Revenant are way too heavy for what they do. The Geth pulse rifle and collector assault rifle don't do enough damage.

The Cerberus Harrier is an awesome gun, dealing out tons of damage, but it has a very low ammo capacity and unless you're standing out of cover, it's very inaccurate.

All of this is assuming you're playing gold and this stuff matters to you. otherwise, just have fun with it. Power cooldown and weapon weight don't matter as much in silver and bronze. If you're on those levels, then just choose whichever one you work with the best and go with it. Unfortunately, gold level seems to have some standards, and if you don't meet those, you often get kicked. So the weapons I listed above are the ones to use.

Depending on whether you're playing single player or multiplayer, I would suggest the N7 Valkyrie, but that's just because I like the style, and paired with explosive incendiary rounds, it can tear through any enemy, even on insanity.

Once again it really depends on your player style.  I disagree that the M-99 Saber could be only used for headshots.  My Saber Lv. II, with scope and extended barrel, no ammo mods, can easily take down a geth with 1-2 shots (not headshots).  Mind you i prefer to have my cooldowns in the +95 to 120 range, anything below that and reload is too slow.  For me low ammon capacity is no big deal as in MP game play just be mindful of ammo boxes to pick up more ammo or use the thermal clips.  I agree with you that the Mattock is a very good weapon and is usually my go to when starting a character at Lv. I  My Lv. VII Mattock with scope Lv V and Extended Barrel Lv. V does not come close to the damage that the Sabre can do.  There is no need to use Lv. V stability mod with the Mattock as it just does not need it.  Personally the Vindicator I just can't stand.  Not precise enough with the three bursts.  Playing style is what it all boils down too.  I like to zero in on the target and taken it down.  Both Saber and Mattock with scope can do this.  I agree about the Phaeston, damage is minimal but I sure like the lead it pumps out - it's just endless, yet time consuming.  Zaidra is right, just have fun and soon enought you will find your own grove.
Turian Rebel Out.  

[wortigon2000]

as Blue 007 said, it depends on your style, but if you need advice, I can tell you my favourits
Geth puse rifle is one of the best rapid fire weapons, and its accuraci is super high. But even saber or striker can hit a lot bigger ( at a slower fire rate, and those are less accurate)
if I wanna use any assault rifle in battle, I would chose one of these, or the avenger, because it's far nos as heavy as the other ones. (but I prefer heavi pistols, or snypers, depending on what class am I playing)

btw: people sais, cerberus harrier is cool, I don't know, I don't have one (maybe that one would be this good too)

[KBronx17]

Call me a noob, but I like the Particle Rifle.

As for a "legit" AR, I liked the Avenger in ME2