Gorkan86 wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Catalyst: "Synthesis is the final evolution of all life."
Would you like to say that he is never wrong?
MisterJB wrote...
Synthetic upgrades to organics, true life to synthetics (I'm going to be called racist for this) and the Reapers are freed.anorling wrote...
"Syntheis is ok because it changes nothing. We will still be the same as before"
Ok, so what's the point of it then?
Some people would argue this is bad but I believe otherwise. Killing a Reaper is genocide. They deserve another opportunity at life and their knowledge can greatly benefit our civilizations.
o Ventus wrote...
Gorkan86 wrote...
Synthesis is not the final evolution of life, it is just another round. Who believes otherwise?
You mean aside from the Catalyst?
The Angry One wrote...
Those deaths are due to the Catalyst.
You know, the thing that promotes synthesis.
translationninja wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
Those deaths are due to the Catalyst.
You know, the thing that promotes synthesis.
I guess everything is ok no matter how atrocious as long as you can say "he started it"
So, the only way you can see to end a war is through the complete genocide of your opponent.The Angry One wrote...
Old fashioned? I want to defeat the Reapers, as I promised the galaxy, as they gave me authorisation to do. That and that alone. Not join them. Not rule them. Defeat them.
Because gaining synthetic upgrades somehow turns you into a different person?Synthesis kills everyone and replaces them with hybrids wearing their faces.
The Catalyst has no choice. It has to follow its programming.Those deaths are due to the Catalyst.
You know, the thing that promotes synthesis.
translationninja wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
Synthetic upgrades to organics, true life to synthetics (I'm going to be called racist for this) and the Reapers are freed.anorling wrote...
"Syntheis is ok because it changes nothing. We will still be the same as before"
Ok, so what's the point of it then?
Some people would argue this is bad but I believe otherwise. Killing a Reaper is genocide. They deserve another opportunity at life and their knowledge can greatly benefit our civilizations.
As illustrated when he decides to give the rachni queen a go...
MisterJB wrote...
So, the only way you can see to end a war is through the complete genocide of your opponent.The Angry One wrote...
Old fashioned? I want to defeat the Reapers, as I promised the galaxy, as they gave me authorisation to do. That and that alone. Not join them. Not rule them. Defeat them.
Regardless of their reasons or what they can offer in peace.Because gaining synthetic upgrades somehow turns you into a different person?Synthesis kills everyone and replaces them with hybrids wearing their faces.
If their memories and personalities are intact, then they are the same person. No matter how much Anti-Synthesis might argue, there is zero evidence it causes brainwashing.The Catalyst has no choice. It has to follow its programming.Those deaths are due to the Catalyst.
You know, the thing that promotes synthesis.
It gave Shepard to opportunity to accept one of the choices created by the new variable because it can't do so itself. If Shepard refuses to do so, then it has no choice other than continue the Cycle.
Modifié par Fawx9, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:13 .
Because all others failed.Fawx9 wrote...
Uhh the catalyst chose this 'solution'
Remember how it said that?
He can choose to stop it anytime he wants to.
The Angry One wrote...
Krunjar wrote...
'Same result. The Reaper's idea of perfection and the 'pinnacle' of evolution.'
No evidence of that whatsoever that's just youre speculation and honestly the reapers where changed as well by the process. So that kinda defeats youre argument. Reapers are a twisted construct of organic and synthetic elements. Synthesis is a fundamental re write to make the base code of all life the same. It bears similarities but is NOT the same process.
How are the Reapers "changed". They gain green circuit overlays? Whoopdeedoo. They're already hybrids, regardless of the process used to make them. They remain the same, and they remain unrepentant as synthesis is what the Catalyst has wanted all along.Gorkan86 wrote...
Synthesis is not the final evolution of life, it is just another round. Who believes otherwise?
Catalyst: "Synthesis is the final evolution of all life."
Modifié par Krunjar, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:15 .
Because a bad action can never have good consequences, right?M25105 wrote...
Folks, please think about it. What difference is there in taking a normal person in dipping him in radioactive goo against his will? And changing some ones entire DNA against their consent in Synthesis? It's the same deal. It's disgusting, horrible and atrocious.
The Angry One wrote...
translationninja wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
Synthetic upgrades to organics, true life to synthetics (I'm going to be called racist for this) and the Reapers are freed.anorling wrote...
"Syntheis is ok because it changes nothing. We will still be the same as before"
Ok, so what's the point of it then?
Some people would argue this is bad but I believe otherwise. Killing a Reaper is genocide. They deserve another opportunity at life and their knowledge can greatly benefit our civilizations.
As illustrated when he decides to give the rachni queen a go...
Rachni Queen - Innocent. Not involved in Rachni war. Does not ever attempt to justify the Rachni's actions.
Reapers - Unrepentant. Arrogant. Enjoy themselves while commiting genocide. Justify their actions with nonsense logic.
Yeah no difference there.
The Angry One wrote...
translationninja wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
Synthetic upgrades to organics, true life to synthetics (I'm going to be called racist for this) and the Reapers are freed.anorling wrote...
"Syntheis is ok because it changes nothing. We will still be the same as before"
Ok, so what's the point of it then?
Some people would argue this is bad but I believe otherwise. Killing a Reaper is genocide. They deserve another opportunity at life and their knowledge can greatly benefit our civilizations.
As illustrated when he decides to give the rachni queen a go...
Rachni Queen - Innocent. Not involved in Rachni war. Does not ever attempt to justify the Rachni's actions.
Reapers - Unrepentant. Arrogant. Enjoy themselves while commiting genocide. Justify their actions with nonsense logic.
Yeah no difference there.
Krunjar wrote...
The reapers are changed because ALL life is changed they are no
exception. Deny it if you will but I think that the "Husk wakes up"
scene blatently disproves what you assert even if it made any sense
other than to justify youre own preferences.
MisterJB wrote...
Because a bad action can never have good consequences, right?M25105 wrote...
Folks, please think about it. What difference is there in taking a normal person in dipping him in radioactive goo against his will? And changing some ones entire DNA against their consent in Synthesis? It's the same deal. It's disgusting, horrible and atrocious.
If you find this unacceptable and awful it does not mean that someone else is the same, think about it.M25105 wrote...
Folks, please think about it. What difference is there in taking a normal person in dipping him in radioactive goo against his will? And changing some ones entire DNA against their consent in Synthesis? It's the same deal. It's disgusting, horrible and atrocious.
M25105 wrote...
Folks, please think about it. What difference is there in taking a normal person in dipping him in radioactive goo against his will? And changing some ones entire DNA against their consent in Synthesis? It's the same deal. It's disgusting, horrible and atrocious.
Modifié par Krunjar, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:20 .
Gorkan86 wrote...
If you find this unacceptable and awful it does not mean that someone else is the same, think about it.M25105 wrote...
Folks, please think about it. What difference is there in taking a normal person in dipping him in radioactive goo against his will? And changing some ones entire DNA against their consent in Synthesis? It's the same deal. It's disgusting, horrible and atrocious.
For humans slavery is terrible, this constraint on their freedom. For batarians is okay, it's part of their culture.
translationninja wrote...
This would be much easier if you were to say something like "I just hate them to death and therefore I refuse to do anything that doesn't wipe them off the face of the galaxy" which really is the essence of your argument.
I say it again though, they accept violence as their means of accomplishing a goal and so do you, you're not so different from them as you may think.
Krunjar wrote...
M25105 wrote...
Folks, please think about it. What difference is there in taking a normal person in dipping him in radioactive goo against his will? And changing some ones entire DNA against their consent in Synthesis? It's the same deal. It's disgusting, horrible and atrocious.
Really? making decisions for people without their consent is atrocious? Guess wed better kill all the politicians and make every decision possible my democratic ballot. Oh wait yeah the world dousn't work like that. I mean sure giving some random schmuk that choice might be bad but this is commander shepard. If anyone has earned the right to make that choice it is him. Much more than most politicians I know.
Modifié par Krunjar, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:22 .
Krunjar wrote...
False Allegor, And believe me if they thaught you needed one they would probably try
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