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[Sundance31us]

DinoSteve wrote...
Dragon age 2 is like watching someone you love being murdered before your eyes.

That's an extreme overreaction for a game.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Sundance31us wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...
Dragon age 2 is like watching someone you love being murdered before your eyes.

That's an extreme overreaction for a game.

Nothing is just a game here on BSN.

[shodiswe]

NinthGeorgesw wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I always see posts bashing the writing of ME1,2 and 3. Granted there are plot holes, but c'mon guys. The BioWare writing staff is miles ahead of most developers. I've never been more involved in any other video games. The Dragon Age series feels like a novel unfolding before your eyes. A novel you get to write. The Mass Effect series feels like a movie you get to star in. The BioWare team is great at their jobs, we've just been spoiled by their talent.



...granted their work is not perfect, but it's definately good.

I agree. The storytelling isn't perfect, but it's miles ahead of any other videogame story I can think of.

I agree, its a great game/story with a few rough edges.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

@ The Angry One

- The intro was a good segue after Arrival. A trial would've been utterly ridiculous.
- Like Harbinger was a serious villan in the first place?
- There wasn't a way to defeat the Reapers conventionally. I would not have taken BioWare seriously if they came up with a way. The battle of Sovereign solidfied that in my mind.
- ME3 had more of a plot than ME2
- ME3 wrapped up arcs and in-universe issues beautifully.

-The intro was boring, didn't fit and made the Reaper threat after 3 games feel like meh.
-Harbinger was the main villain in Mass effect 2
-ME3 had more of a plot because ME2 having a reaper based plot would have limited what ME3 could do, in the end it didn't matter because Mass effect 3 didn't take advantage and ended up being terrible with a bad plot.
-It wrapped up the Krogan and Quarians ok along with some other characters, however the main threat throughout the 3 games was handled like s**t.

-Not beating the Reaper conventionally =/= using space magic

Modifié par iAFKinMassEffect3, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:06 .

[BiO]

You guys should read Final Hours of Mass Effect 3. Then you'd understand why the plot is a jumbled mess... I'll give you a hint, though - EA.

[SpamBot2000]

BiO_MaN wrote...

You guys should read Final Hours of Mass Effect 3. Then you'd understand why the plot is a jumbled mess... I'll give you a hint, though - EA.

I'd be interested, however... It costs 3 bucks, so I sent them e-mail asking how much of that goes to BW and they haven't answered yet. I can go as high as anything below a red cent.

[Joccaren]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Random Geth wrote...

ME3's ending is utter garbage. Yes, their writing IS normally very good. That doesn't make slop somehow better just because it's next to writing that's decent.

Seriously? I understand people don't like the ending, but to call the entirety of ME3 utter garbage is completely ridiculous.

1. Let me quote the quote you quoted: "ME3's ENDING is utter Garbage". He is refering to the ending, not the whole game.
2. I dunno, between the auto-dialogue, the ending, the scan-ping sidequests, complete linearity, disregard for majority of choices - it is by far the weakest Bioware game I've played. The gunplay is good, everything else is just poor, especially when the game tries to label itself an RPG.

[silentassassin264]

Sundance31us wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...
Dragon age 2 is like watching someone you love being murdered before your eyes.

That's an extreme overreaction for a game.

I have to disagree.  DA2 was that bad.

[AxStapleton]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Exactly. The ME writing has it's faults, but compared to pretty much every single other game out there, it's really, REALLY, good! Just go back and play something like Gears of War after having played the ME games. Maybe that'll make you appreciate the ME writing a bit more.

The difference is that Gears is made and written to be a testostorone filled, blood and guts shoot fest right from the start. Which definetly wasn't the original intention of Mass Effect. This is a poor comparison.

[DEATHSCOPE]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Sundance31us wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...
Dragon age 2 is like watching someone you love being murdered before your eyes.

That's an extreme overreaction for a game.

Nothing is just a game here on BSN.

Not quite...

Games = Life here

Agreed. I got to admit, Mass Effect's fans are the only fans I know that care this much about their game. I mean, you guys will go to great length; writing pages worth of argument just to defend your point, expanding the Mass Effect universe with fan-made comics and literatures, and even worked together to get BioWare to make a new ending. Kudos to you guys.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

AxStapleton wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Exactly. The ME writing has it's faults, but compared to pretty much every single other game out there, it's really, REALLY, good! Just go back and play something like Gears of War after having played the ME games. Maybe that'll make you appreciate the ME writing a bit more.

The difference is that Gears is made and written to be a testostorone filled, blood and guts shoot fest right from the start. Which definetly wasn't the original intention of Mass Effect. This is a poor comparison.

All I said, was that the writing in Mass Effect is miles above most other games. 

[Femlob]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Exactly. The ME writing has it's faults, but compared to pretty much every single other game out there, it's really, REALLY, good! Just go back and play something like Gears of War after having played the ME games. Maybe that'll make you appreciate the ME writing a bit more.

The difference is that Gears is made and written to be a testostorone filled, blood and guts shoot fest right from the start. Which definetly wasn't the original intention of Mass Effect. This is a poor comparison.

All I said, was that the writing in Mass Effect is miles above most other games. 

Some of the writing is (as people have pointed out, Tuchanka and most of Rannoch). The rest is garbage, just like everything else.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

@ The Angry One

- The intro was a good segue after Arrival. A trial would've been utterly ridiculous.
- Like Harbinger was a serious villan in the first place?
- There wasn't a way to defeat the Reapers conventionally. I would not have taken BioWare seriously if they came up with a way. The battle of Sovereign solidfied that in my mind.
- ME3 had more of a plot than ME2
- ME3 wrapped up arcs and in-universe issues beautifully.

-The intro was boring, didn't fit and made the Reaper threat after 3 games feel like meh.
-Harbinger was the main villain in Mass effect 2
-ME3 had more of a plot because ME2 having a reaper based plot would have limited what ME3 could do, in the end it didn't matter because Mass effect 3 didn't take advantage and ended up being terrible with a bad plot.
-It wrapped up the Krogan and Quarians ok along with some other characters, however the main threat throughout the 3 games was handled like s**t.

-Not beating the Reaper conventionally =/= using space magic

[Snip]S**t you said [/snip]

There is a reason the game is rated so much lower than Mass effect 2.
What I stated is true.

Modifié par iAFKinMassEffect3, 03 juillet 2012 - 10:19 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Femlob wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Exactly. The ME writing has it's faults, but compared to pretty much every single other game out there, it's really, REALLY, good! Just go back and play something like Gears of War after having played the ME games. Maybe that'll make you appreciate the ME writing a bit more.

The difference is that Gears is made and written to be a testostorone filled, blood and guts shoot fest right from the start. Which definetly wasn't the original intention of Mass Effect. This is a poor comparison.

All I said, was that the writing in Mass Effect is miles above most other games. 

Some of the writing is (as people have pointed out, Tuchanka and most of Rannoch). The rest is garbage, just like everything else.

You not liking it doesn't mean that it's garbage. Just stop.

[Femlob]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Exactly. The ME writing has it's faults, but compared to pretty much every single other game out there, it's really, REALLY, good! Just go back and play something like Gears of War after having played the ME games. Maybe that'll make you appreciate the ME writing a bit more.

The difference is that Gears is made and written to be a testostorone filled, blood and guts shoot fest right from the start. Which definetly wasn't the original intention of Mass Effect. This is a poor comparison.

All I said, was that the writing in Mass Effect is miles above most other games. 

Some of the writing is (as people have pointed out, Tuchanka and most of Rannoch). The rest is garbage, just like everything else.

You not liking it doesn't mean that it's garbage. Just stop.

It's garbage because it's structurally flawed and at odds with the established lore. Personal preference doesn't even factor into it.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Femlob wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Exactly. The ME writing has it's faults, but compared to pretty much every single other game out there, it's really, REALLY, good! Just go back and play something like Gears of War after having played the ME games. Maybe that'll make you appreciate the ME writing a bit more.

The difference is that Gears is made and written to be a testostorone filled, blood and guts shoot fest right from the start. Which definetly wasn't the original intention of Mass Effect. This is a poor comparison.

All I said, was that the writing in Mass Effect is miles above most other games. 

Some of the writing is (as people have pointed out, Tuchanka and most of Rannoch). The rest is garbage, just like everything else.

You not liking it doesn't mean that it's garbage. Just stop.

It's garbage because it's structurally flawed and at odds with the established lore. Personal preference doesn't even factor into it.

It's not garbage. 

[BatmanPWNS]

Gee, they took our money. If they can't handle us after that then too bad.

[Femlob]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

AxStapleton wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Exactly. The ME writing has it's faults, but compared to pretty much every single other game out there, it's really, REALLY, good! Just go back and play something like Gears of War after having played the ME games. Maybe that'll make you appreciate the ME writing a bit more.

The difference is that Gears is made and written to be a testostorone filled, blood and guts shoot fest right from the start. Which definetly wasn't the original intention of Mass Effect. This is a poor comparison.

All I said, was that the writing in Mass Effect is miles above most other games. 

Some of the writing is (as people have pointed out, Tuchanka and most of Rannoch). The rest is garbage, just like everything else.

You not liking it doesn't mean that it's garbage. Just stop.

It's garbage because it's structurally flawed and at odds with the established lore. Personal preference doesn't even factor into it.

It's not garbage. 

It is, as I've just explained. But feel free to plug your ears and pretend it's awesome.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

So, just because people hate ME3, I should too? As a gamer, ME3 was heads and shoulders above most of the other stuff I've played. I'm not a BioWare fanatic, I've only played DA and ME. So I don't know how it stacks up to other BioWare works. But it is WAY better than most of the crap that comes out every year.

Funny how you just snip out what I said instead of replying to it. Then citing reviews done by over emotional/dramitc people.

Sorry to tell you, but that's pretty much BSN in a nutshell these days. Write a thread where you say something positive about ME3 > Wait for the ten-page essays telling you not to like ME3. According to many on here, ME3 is THE worst game of all time. I just don't know what these people are doing on here. I guess they just care a whole lot about what other people thinks about the stuff they hate. It's quite sad, really.