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[Disciple888]

Graal is far superior to the harrier.

[Kronner]

Disciple888 wrote...

Scenario: krogan sentinel v. Geth. Would u rather have falcon or harrier?

Scenario: turian soldier v. Four phantoms. Krysae or harrier?

All the best weapons have decent damage plus stagger. Gps, graal, Krysae. Claymore is there only because it can throw down massive damage in one shot. Harrier requires sustained fire and has a tiny clip.

Cool scenarios.

Do not tell anything about the game or the weapon, though. Ignore teammates.

Modifié par Kronner, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:42 .

[Disciple888]

Kronner wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Scenario: krogan sentinel v. Geth. Would u rather have falcon or harrier?

Scenario: turian soldier v. Four phantoms. Krysae or harrier?

All the best weapons have decent damage plus stagger. Gps, graal, Krysae. Claymore is there only because it can throw down massive damage in one shot. Harrier requires sustained fire and has a tiny clip.

Cool scenarios.

Do not tell anything about the game or the weapon, though. Falcon sucks against bosses. Krysae is just ridiculous noob tube, so I will ignore that one.

Uh what?  These are actual scenarios u must consider in game.  U keep looking at the harrier in a vacuum.  Have u solo'd gold yet?

[Erghiez06]

I hope Bioware doesnt touch the Harrier until I get ahold of it...

[TCGwasHERE]

Disciple888 wrote...

Scenario: krogan sentinel v. Geth. Would u rather have falcon or harrier?

Scenario: turian soldier v. Four phantoms. Krysae or harrier?

All the best weapons have decent damage plus stagger. Gps, graal, Krysae. Claymore is there only because it can throw down massive damage in one shot. Harrier requires sustained fire and has a tiny clip.

the Harrier also has massive damage.  it can cut through ANY enemy in the game with ease.  even phantoms

[Kronner]

Disciple888 wrote...

Uh what?  These are actual scenarios u must consider in game.  U keep looking at the harrier in a vacuum.  Have u solo'd gold yet?

You are just cherry picking situations. You ignore teammates. I really have nothing else to add other than I think you have no idea how to use Harrier. Too bad for you.

[Disciple888]

TCGwasHERE wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Scenario: krogan sentinel v. Geth. Would u rather have falcon or harrier?

Scenario: turian soldier v. Four phantoms. Krysae or harrier?

All the best weapons have decent damage plus stagger. Gps, graal, Krysae. Claymore is there only because it can throw down massive damage in one shot. Harrier requires sustained fire and has a tiny clip.

the Harrier also has massive damage.  it can cut through ANY enemy in the game with ease.  even phantoms

Four phantom spawn on wave 10 and 11.  Can u rush down with Harrier?  I can with the gps or graal.

[Kronner]

Disciple888 wrote...

Four phantom spawn on wave 10 and 11.  Can u rush down with Harrier?  I can with the gps or graal.

Clearly this shows that Hurricane and Harrier suck because they do not stagger. 
lmao never mind the fact that Graal and GPS can never penetrate cover, for example.

Modifié par Kronner, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:47 .

[Disciple888]

Kronner wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Uh what?  These are actual scenarios u must consider in game.  U keep looking at the harrier in a vacuum.  Have u solo'd gold yet?

You are just cherry picking situations. You ignore teammates. I really have nothing else to add other than I think you have no idea how to use Harrier. Too bad for you.

Lol I dunno how to use the harrier because I don't rely on teammates?  Those situations are the ones u have to worry about, not how fast u take down a brute from behind cover.

Modifié par Disciple888, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:49 .

[Kronner]

Disciple888 wrote...
Lol I dunno how to use the harrier because I don't rely on teammates?  Those situations are the ones u have to worry about, not how fast u take down a brute from behind covet.

I said your scenarios ignore teammates in a co-op game. I think you do not know how to effectively use Harrier based on your claims that only weapons that stagger are best.

[TCGwasHERE]

Disciple888 wrote...

TCGwasHERE wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Scenario: krogan sentinel v. Geth. Would u rather have falcon or harrier?

Scenario: turian soldier v. Four phantoms. Krysae or harrier?

All the best weapons have decent damage plus stagger. Gps, graal, Krysae. Claymore is there only because it can throw down massive damage in one shot. Harrier requires sustained fire and has a tiny clip.

the Harrier also has massive damage.  it can cut through ANY enemy in the game with ease.  even phantoms

Four phantom spawn on wave 10 and 11.  Can u rush down with Harrier?  I can with the gps or graal.

I can hold the line and force them to flip for the rest of their puny lives.  two atlases also spawn, can you kill them quickly with a graal?  

if you think the weapon needs to be buffed because other weapons can stagger and it doesn't have enough ammo then you are doing it wrong

[Disciple888]

Kronner wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Four phantom spawn on wave 10 and 11.  Can u rush down with Harrier?  I can with the gps or graal.

Clearly this shows that Hurricane and Harrier suck because they do not stagger. 
lmao never mind the fact that Graal and GPS can never penetrate cover, for example.

Actually yes, the hurricane suffers against phantoms and pyros too.  It's okay, just like the harrier, I never said it sucked, just that they were not the best weapons in the game.

[Aethyl]

Disciple888 wrote...

Kronner wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Four phantom spawn on wave 10 and 11.  Can u rush down with Harrier?  I can with the gps or graal.

Clearly this shows that Hurricane and Harrier suck because they do not stagger. 
lmao never mind the fact that Graal and GPS can never penetrate cover, for example.

Actually yes, the hurricane suffers against phantoms and pyros too.  It's okay, just like the harrier, I never said it sucked, just that they were not the best weapons in the game.

Because best weapons in the game are only the ones which stagger?
Seems legit.

Modifié par Aethyl, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:52 .

[Rodia Driftwood]

1337haxwtg wrote...

I can't believe people are saying it needs a buff. It is easily the best AR in the game.

Sure, maybe it could use more reserve ammo, but it is a killing machine.

This.

OP, you'd best be careful with what you say, lest you'd want the nerf demons run amoc.

[Kronner]

Disciple888 wrote...
Actually yes, the hurricane suffers against phantoms and pyros too.  It's okay, just like the harrier, I never said it sucked, just that they were not the best weapons in the game.

Yea, I guess that's why a batarian soldier with Harrier sololed the game in 19 minutes. Against geth. Because Harrier is "okay". 
You cherry pick situations with phantoms, pyros or other geth and base your opinion/claim on that. You ignore other enemies where stagger is not very important and teammates and their powers. Not very sound approach.

Modifié par Kronner, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:56 .

[Disciple888]

Yes. Best weapons in the game are only the ones that stagger. Unless u have powers that negate the need, but then you're getting into class specific setups. Claymore is the exception because it can osk, and remove the threat instantly with good aim.

[Kronner]

Disciple888 wrote...

Yes. Best weapons in the game are only the ones that stagger. Unless u have powers that negate the need, but then you're getting into class specific setups. Claymore is the exception because it can osk, and remove the threat instantly with good aim.

So basically you do not know how to effectively use any weapon save for the ones that can stagger and the Claymore. Nice. Black Widow must suck. Valiant..meh, does not stagger. ...... 

Modifié par Kronner, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:57 .

[Disciple888]

Kronner wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...
Actually yes, the hurricane suffers against phantoms and pyros too.  It's okay, just like the harrier, I never said it sucked, just that they were not the best weapons in the game.

Yea, I guess that's why a batarian soldier with Harrier sololed the game in 19 minutes. Against geth. Because Harrier is "okay". 
You cherry pick situations phantoms, pyros or other geth and base your opinion/claim on that. You ignore other enemies where stagger is not very important and teammates and their powers. Not very sound approach.

Batarian soldier has a staggering power plus grenades.  Bad example.

[Aethyl]

Disciple888 wrote...

Yes. Best weapons in the game are only the ones that stagger. Unless u have powers that negate the need, but then you're getting into class specific setups. Claymore is the exception because it can osk, and remove the threat instantly with good aim.

You do realise if there are "classes", it's because you actually have to think your setup because entering in the game.
A weapon is good considering the class setup on which it is used, no less.

May as well not use your powers at all with thoughts like that, stupid in a game which has some diversity in the characters.

[Disciple888]

Kronner wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Yes. Best weapons in the game are only the ones that stagger. Unless u have powers that negate the need, but then you're getting into class specific setups. Claymore is the exception because it can osk, and remove the threat instantly with good aim.

So basically you do not know how to effectively use any weapon save for the ones that can stagger and the Claymore. Nice. Black Widow must suck. Valiant..meh, does not stagger. ...... 

Black widow is okay.  I use it on my Salarian inf for fun, not because it's optimal.  Even then I have to pack a scorpion sidearm for the late wave phantom spawn.

[NinthGeorgesw]

This is one of the funniest threads I've read in a while.

[Disciple888]

Aethyl wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

Yes. Best weapons in the game are only the ones that stagger. Unless u have powers that negate the need, but then you're getting into class specific setups. Claymore is the exception because it can osk, and remove the threat instantly with good aim.

You do realise if there are "classes", it's because you actually have to think your setup because entering in the game.
A weapon is good considering the class setup on which it is used, no less.

May as well not use your powers at all with thoughts like that, stupid in a game which has some diversity in the characters.

I play every class and I play them well.  I judge guns by their effectiveness across all characters, not a select few.  I use the Reegar on the kroguard and vorcha and it's awesome but the gun itself is again just okay.

[Ogrinash]

It can handle Phantoms. Sure, you may not be able to survive charging four Phantoms with it (but then, who really can?), but you can survive against them with smart play (which is the name of the game).

It's pretty fantastic against almost anything.

[GallowsPole]

There is not a single combo/class/weapon ideally suited for 'every' scenario. If you are soloing, sure, its helpful to have a weapon that can stagger, necessary? NO. In a team of four and capable players, Ill stick with the stopping power of my Paladin and whatever powers I am currently using. Arguing over which weapon is best is like arguing over if the sun is going to rise or not. Its never the wepaon, only the person behind it.

[jahaa]

I'm not sure about this because i've seen it only one time but:

Harrier VII with extended barrel and mags+AR Gear V+Rail Amp III+AP ammo IV with the Batarian Soldier specced for weapon damage and you can stop a Banshee sync kill on Gold.

I repeat, i may be wrong because i rarely play with the BS, but i was alone shooting the Banshee trying to stop the grab and that did it. Of course shooting at point blank.