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Why do people keep insisting that conventional victory is possible?


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Wyatt Shepard

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jamminjamin wrote...

Because forcing you to play god at gun point by a character we know nothing about is not why I paid $70.

You honeslty think those choices are moral? Ethical?

Destroy - you doom an entire species + EDI
Control - you play god (even though your talk with TIM was about not playing god.)
Synthesis - ... what... the...    Where do I begin with that? Changing the laws of nature? Every religion, culture, belief.. all utterly destroyed becoming one glamourus utopia of some weird twilight realm of existance. No thankyou.

What else is there?

Refuse. There is no other choice.

What I don't understand is how pro-enders can accept this. Those choices aren't Mass Effect. The message got muddled... Shepard gives up? Are.. you.. serious??

My Shepard could never accept that, how could yours????


Shep doesn't give up AT ALL in the refuse ending. He refuses to accept the choices starbrat gives him. That refusal means the only option is a straight up fight with the Reapers, which the allied forces lose in a big way, but are able to pass on what they know to the next cycle, which in turn defeat the repearers. Shep doesn't surrender if you choose refuse, he just loses the war.

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Cadeym

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spiriticon wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote..

Only if you are consistently trying to fight a war of attrition.  You don't.  You don't even try.  Why not blind them?  Considering that many people all over the web and on the BSN have come up with ways that might work against individual reapers or even groups of them what is unconscionable is that the writers just decided to never show that any real resistance was possible or of limited use.  Again, arm geth with cains-send them out airlocks and into reapers, to maybe board them or even see if it's possible.  Conventional weapon, unconventional means.  And the death of any one reaper might well weaken the whole.  Who knows, no one tries.  They just run at them headlong fighting against them conventionally in a war of attrition.


Um. Conventional Warfare is a war of attrition. They are all over Dark Space. How do you 'blind' an enemy that could be anywhere in the universe? They are more likely to blind you (and have actually done so already because we knew squat when they were already at the Lunar Base).

And they have complete control of the relays, which is the most technologically advanced piece of kit in the galaxy at the time.

The Reapers have the tactical, numerical and military advantage. The only thing we got is hope.

Conventional war is simply a matter of what is accepted and what is not. If some alien race decided to attack Earth in this day and age we would throw everything we had at it, and it would all be considered a conventional war.
Shepard provided an Asari with the technology to predict Reaper movement. The great enemy has a weakness, who is to say that more information can't be uncovered. The only way to protect oneself against FTL hit and run tactics is to use sphere formations. The projectile of a Cain moves just slowly enough that shields aren't triggered.

The organics can already predict the movement of the enemy, this suggests that their reactions can be predicted aswell.

Modifié par Mouseraider, 19 juillet 2012 - 01:34 .