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[Dragoonlordz]

Not going to happen. /thread.

To quote Bioware "Can't please everyone."

To quote a meme "Deal with it."

[BerzerkGene]

spiriticon wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

spiriticon wrote...

No one knows the exact strength of the Reapers. Sure we could beat a few of them conventionally by catching them off guard, but they could number in the gazillions out there in Dark Space. Maybe even infinite(!). Who knows.

It's hard to plan any military action when you don't really know your enemy's true strengths and weaknesses. It's too risky.

Theres only meant to be a couple thousand, they have brought thir full might against the galaxy.  They have not held back.

Is there any codex entry which states this to be true? I must have missed it.

There is no codex entry. But the end scene from ME2 shows a couple thousand at most and liara calculates that it would take at least 100years to roll over the galaxy completely. So  iguess she knows. Too bad we never asked her.

[egnit]

Bottom line is this: The Reapers control the Citadel. Even if they retreat from Earth, they take the Citadel with them. If they control the Citadel they control the relays. Like Vigil said, they can isolate every system in the galaxy. They can control who uses what relay and when.

How then do the organics coordinate? How do they build? How does the massive superfleet at earth not starve and die? The centers of galactic civilization are burning. Where are there dreadnaughts going to be built? How are the materials needed to make them going to be transported? Where are the people coming from that will crew them? How are you going to research and disseminate tactics and data when you can't use the relays to coordinate or transport?

All the Reapers have to do is obliterate the rest of the galaxy while the assembled fleets on Earth try to figure out how to survive.

If the control the Citadelm and they do, there is literally no way to win the war against the reapers without an X factor; in this case The Crucible. While its something that the game designers seem to have forgotten about from Mass Effect 1 (not the only thing either), the Citadel is the key to winning the war.

[BerzerkGene]

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

You know, this might actually be a good time to use the data that TIM acquired on the weaknesses of the Reapers. At the very least, we know that certain Reapers (Destroyers if I remember correctly) have an exploitable weakness that definitely can end some of them way quicker than normal. 

That is another big advantage we have over the Reapers, beyond a much larger production capacity. We can improve our technology and tactics.

For us to improve technologically, we simply have to continue to develop our understanding of Reaper technology. The Reapers aren't technologically improving at all. If a war stretches out years, giving us countless new samples of Reaper technology, we will catch up to some significant degree.

Heck, I could see us obliterating the Reapers inside a few years. Yes, most sentients would die, because even after we achieved military superiority, we have numerous fixed positions to defend while the Reapers are the Mongols of old. However, eventually the Reapers would be winnowed down and our military supriority would become overwhelming.

Yeah, I could see it happening within a decade perhaps - to give it a realistic and tense timeline - and did I forget to mention this: what if Shepard could destroy the very Catalyst itself? Since that VI basically controls and guides the Reapers to do what it wills, I'd bet that destroying that thing would cause untold chaos among the Reapers, giving us a chance to beat them conventionally. Then to top it off, all we'd need is some omnigel!

You guys pretty much got it. Liara said at least 100 years. We already have a gun nearly as good as theirs(Thanix cannon). All we would need is good kinetic barriers, maybe a way to gatlin thanixs and bam, we got a ship better than a reaper.

Technically, killing the Catalyst should stun the Reapers, as their director just died, the one that connected them all. Then their own motivations, intentions should take over. Whatever they are. Unfortunately no one knows about the Catlayst AI because IT MAKES NO ****ING SENSE AND BREAKS THE  PLOT.

[spiriticon]

BerzerkGene wrote...

There is no codex entry. But the end scene from ME2 shows a couple thousand at most and liara calculates that it would take at least 100years to roll over the galaxy completely. So  iguess she knows. Too bad we never asked her.

Well the point is we don't have the numbers.

You want to plan a conventional victory against an enemy of far greater military might than you? You need the exact numbers, the locations of each the reapers in dark space and every other bit of information you can possibly use to have an advantage.

Just visually 'seeing' a couple of thousand of them isn't good enough.

[BerzerkGene]

egnit wrote...

Bottom line is this: The Reapers control the Citadel. Even if they retreat from Earth, they take the Citadel with them. If they control the Citadel they control the relays. Like Vigil said, they can isolate every system in the galaxy. They can control who uses what relay and when.

How then do the organics coordinate? How do they build? How does the massive superfleet at earth not starve and die? The centers of galactic civilization are burning. Where are there dreadnaughts going to be built? How are the materials needed to make them going to be transported? Where are the people coming from that will crew them? How are you going to research and disseminate tactics and data when you can't use the relays to coordinate or transport?

All the Reapers have to do is obliterate the rest of the galaxy while the assembled fleets on Earth try to figure out how to survive.

If the control the Citadelm and they do, there is literally no way to win the war against the reapers without an X factor; in this case The Crucible. While its something that the game designers seem to have forgotten about from Mass Effect 1 (not the only thing either), the Citadel is the key to winning the war.

The citadel, they own it, yet don't shut down the relays to earth. Why? plot.
How do they coordinate? Use that Quantum entanglement thing that the normandy has. The massive superfleet would need several worlds, probably rannoch being a good starting point. The Geth also have production facilities, they have tons of space stations too.
They have ships, why ask about transportation? The fleets crew them!
Coordinate and transport. Reapers didn't shut off the relays, Quantum entanglement for communication.
Technically, owning the citadel should have meant a game over, as you said, own that, own the relays. But they don't shut off the relays. So it doesn't matter. The Crucible is a giant battery, the same resources and technology could have gone into something way more worthwhile. Like a giant, advanced Thanix cannon.

[Enhanced]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

You know, this might actually be a good time to use the data that TIM acquired on the weaknesses of the Reapers. At the very least, we know that certain Reapers (Destroyers if I remember correctly) have an exploitable weakness that definitely can end some of them way quicker than normal. 

That is another big advantage we have over the Reapers, beyond a much larger production capacity. We can improve our technology and tactics.

For us to improve technologically, we simply have to continue to develop our understanding of Reaper technology. The Reapers aren't technologically improving at all. If a war stretches out years, giving us countless new samples of Reaper technology, we will catch up to some significant degree.

Heck, I could see us obliterating the Reapers inside a few years. Yes, most sentients would die, because even after we achieved military superiority, we have numerous fixed positions to defend while the Reapers are the Mongols of old. However, eventually the Reapers would be winnowed down and our military supriority would become overwhelming.

Since the reapers are organic/synthetic beings, the only way to fully understand their tech (if it's even possible) is to sarcifice and experiment on intelligent living organisms (like TIM was doing).  The governments probably wouldn't be willing to do that.

Modifié par Enhanced, 03 juillet 2012 - 02:30 .

[Luxure]

Why people keep insisting conventional victory is possible ? Well, I'll tell you. Because we're humans, that's what we do. We never give up, we fight until the last man. And even if we might lose, at least we'll put a helluva fight. That's why.

/Shepard

Modifié par Luxure, 03 juillet 2012 - 02:37 .

[Urdnot Amenark]

BerzerkGene wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

You know, this might actually be a good time to use the data that TIM acquired on the weaknesses of the Reapers. At the very least, we know that certain Reapers (Destroyers if I remember correctly) have an exploitable weakness that definitely can end some of them way quicker than normal. 

That is another big advantage we have over the Reapers, beyond a much larger production capacity. We can improve our technology and tactics.

For us to improve technologically, we simply have to continue to develop our understanding of Reaper technology. The Reapers aren't technologically improving at all. If a war stretches out years, giving us countless new samples of Reaper technology, we will catch up to some significant degree.

Heck, I could see us obliterating the Reapers inside a few years. Yes, most sentients would die, because even after we achieved military superiority, we have numerous fixed positions to defend while the Reapers are the Mongols of old. However, eventually the Reapers would be winnowed down and our military supriority would become overwhelming.

Yeah, I could see it happening within a decade perhaps - to give it a realistic and tense timeline - and did I forget to mention this: what if Shepard could destroy the very Catalyst itself? Since that VI basically controls and guides the Reapers to do what it wills, I'd bet that destroying that thing would cause untold chaos among the Reapers, giving us a chance to beat them conventionally. Then to top it off, all we'd need is some omnigel!

You guys pretty much got it. Liara said at least 100 years. We already have a gun nearly as good as theirs(Thanix cannon). All we would need is good kinetic barriers, maybe a way to gatlin thanixs and bam, we got a ship better than a reaper.

Technically, killing the Catalyst should stun the Reapers, as their director just died, the one that connected them all. Then their own motivations, intentions should take over. Whatever they are. Unfortunately no one knows about the Catlayst AI because IT MAKES NO ****ING SENSE AND BREAKS THE  PLOT.

Yeah, I keep forgetting that noone knows the Catalyst is an AI. But I think Shep' could find a way to destroy it once s/he discovers it, especially a Sentinel or Engineer class.

[BerzerkGene]

spiriticon wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

There is no codex entry. But the end scene from ME2 shows a couple thousand at most and liara calculates that it would take at least 100years to roll over the galaxy completely. So  iguess she knows. Too bad we never asked her.

Well the point is we don't have the numbers.

You want to plan a conventional victory against an enemy of far greater military might than you? You need the exact numbers, the locations of each the reapers in dark space and every other bit of information you can possibly use to have an advantage.

Just visually 'seeing' a couple of thousand of them isn't good enough.

You can't know we don't have the numbers. At least 100 years means there
would be significant forces for an entire century to keep the whole
reaper fleet at bay. That is not a short amount of time.
As for
conventional victories again greater forces, its been done. Far more
than you would think. Human history is littered with them. Granted, it
was ground wars. But the combined military minds of the galaxy should be
able to come up with a plan. a better plan than they did, anyway
If you take out the biggest chunk, at
earth, including harbinger, the rest of them wouldn't pose as much of a
threat because they wouldn't be as massed.
As to how that could be achieved i have already made several points as to how. The main point being thanix cannons.

[Whatever42]

egnit wrote...

Bottom line is this: The Reapers control the Citadel. Even if they retreat from Earth, they take the Citadel with them. If they control the Citadel they control the relays. Like Vigil said, they can isolate every system in the galaxy. They can control who uses what relay and when.

How then do the organics coordinate? How do they build? How does the massive superfleet at earth not starve and die? The centers of galactic civilization are burning. Where are there dreadnaughts going to be built? How are the materials needed to make them going to be transported? Where are the people coming from that will crew them? How are you going to research and disseminate tactics and data when you can't use the relays to coordinate or transport?

All the Reapers have to do is obliterate the rest of the galaxy while the assembled fleets on Earth try to figure out how to survive.

If the control the Citadelm and they do, there is literally no way to win the war against the reapers without an X factor; in this case The Crucible. While its something that the game designers seem to have forgotten about from Mass Effect 1 (not the only thing either), the Citadel is the key to winning the war.

First, we have FTL travel so we are not 100% dependent on the relays.

Second, the protheans built relays. I suspect we could build our own with some serious research. As Liara's "dad" said, we've just been too lazy. Heck, blow up the existing relays to slow down the Reapers and then start building our own, smaller relays. 

Third, we have "quantum communicators" for instantaneous communications. 

Fourth, people are only necessary for command and control and research. Frankly, we don't need massive crewed vessels. We're building Reaper killers. Hech, slap a Geth AI in a small, Thannix equipped ship and hide it until you have a million of them.

Fifth, large population centres are not required for production. Production is automated. Want to feed a million people. Find a suitable planet, drop down some plant manager and some robots and wait a year for production to pick up. Want a dreadnaught or a Thannix equipped flying Geth Reaper Killer then just find a dark moon somewhere, drop down some robots and start building.

We are only really limited by our access to necessary resources. But the galaxy is huge. I can't forsee the Reapers being able to control that. If they tried, they'd probably be so spread out to be very vulnerable.

Frankly, the Reapers don't have a chance without the element of surprise. 

[spirosz]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Because they're mad, Hanar.

[Urdnot Amenark]

Enhanced wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

You know, this might actually be a good time to use the data that TIM acquired on the weaknesses of the Reapers. At the very least, we know that certain Reapers (Destroyers if I remember correctly) have an exploitable weakness that definitely can end some of them way quicker than normal. 

That is another big advantage we have over the Reapers, beyond a much larger production capacity. We can improve our technology and tactics.

For us to improve technologically, we simply have to continue to develop our understanding of Reaper technology. The Reapers aren't technologically improving at all. If a war stretches out years, giving us countless new samples of Reaper technology, we will catch up to some significant degree.

Heck, I could see us obliterating the Reapers inside a few years. Yes, most sentients would die, because even after we achieved military superiority, we have numerous fixed positions to defend while the Reapers are the Mongols of old. However, eventually the Reapers would be winnowed down and our military supriority would become overwhelming.

Since the reapers are organic/synthetic beings, the only way to fully understand their tech (if it's even possible) is to sarcifice and experiment on intelligent living organisms (like TIM was doing).  The governments probably wouldn't be willing to that.

We already have husks and other indoctrinated monsters for that. Not to mention the data obtained from their experiments with Paul Grayson, who was basically the first real "human reaper". 

[BerzerkGene]

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

You know, this might actually be a good time to use the data that TIM acquired on the weaknesses of the Reapers. At the very least, we know that certain Reapers (Destroyers if I remember correctly) have an exploitable weakness that definitely can end some of them way quicker than normal. 

That is another big advantage we have over the Reapers, beyond a much larger production capacity. We can improve our technology and tactics.

For us to improve technologically, we simply have to continue to develop our understanding of Reaper technology. The Reapers aren't technologically improving at all. If a war stretches out years, giving us countless new samples of Reaper technology, we will catch up to some significant degree.

Heck, I could see us obliterating the Reapers inside a few years. Yes, most sentients would die, because even after we achieved military superiority, we have numerous fixed positions to defend while the Reapers are the Mongols of old. However, eventually the Reapers would be winnowed down and our military supriority would become overwhelming.

Yeah, I could see it happening within a decade perhaps - to give it a realistic and tense timeline - and did I forget to mention this: what if Shepard could destroy the very Catalyst itself? Since that VI basically controls and guides the Reapers to do what it wills, I'd bet that destroying that thing would cause untold chaos among the Reapers, giving us a chance to beat them conventionally. Then to top it off, all we'd need is some omnigel!

You guys pretty much got it. Liara said at least 100 years. We already have a gun nearly as good as theirs(Thanix cannon). All we would need is good kinetic barriers, maybe a way to gatlin thanixs and bam, we got a ship better than a reaper.

Technically, killing the Catalyst should stun the Reapers, as their director just died, the one that connected them all. Then their own motivations, intentions should take over. Whatever they are. Unfortunately no one knows about the Catlayst AI because IT MAKES NO ****ING SENSE AND BREAKS THE  PLOT.

Yeah, I keep forgetting that noone knows the Catalyst is an AI. But I think Shep' could find a way to destroy it once s/he discovers it, especially a Sentinel or Engineer class.

Perhaps, but he/she has no tools to work with, although anderson probably still has his omni tool....and medigel...
Hacking an AI is meant to be really hard though. Oh, Shep still has a working Radio, put in  a call to joker? Say "Shoot here." ? That might work.

[Urdnot Amenark]

BerzerkGene wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

You know, this might actually be a good time to use the data that TIM acquired on the weaknesses of the Reapers. At the very least, we know that certain Reapers (Destroyers if I remember correctly) have an exploitable weakness that definitely can end some of them way quicker than normal. 

That is another big advantage we have over the Reapers, beyond a much larger production capacity. We can improve our technology and tactics.

For us to improve technologically, we simply have to continue to develop our understanding of Reaper technology. The Reapers aren't technologically improving at all. If a war stretches out years, giving us countless new samples of Reaper technology, we will catch up to some significant degree.

Heck, I could see us obliterating the Reapers inside a few years. Yes, most sentients would die, because even after we achieved military superiority, we have numerous fixed positions to defend while the Reapers are the Mongols of old. However, eventually the Reapers would be winnowed down and our military supriority would become overwhelming.

Yeah, I could see it happening within a decade perhaps - to give it a realistic and tense timeline - and did I forget to mention this: what if Shepard could destroy the very Catalyst itself? Since that VI basically controls and guides the Reapers to do what it wills, I'd bet that destroying that thing would cause untold chaos among the Reapers, giving us a chance to beat them conventionally. Then to top it off, all we'd need is some omnigel!

You guys pretty much got it. Liara said at least 100 years. We already have a gun nearly as good as theirs(Thanix cannon). All we would need is good kinetic barriers, maybe a way to gatlin thanixs and bam, we got a ship better than a reaper.

Technically, killing the Catalyst should stun the Reapers, as their director just died, the one that connected them all. Then their own motivations, intentions should take over. Whatever they are. Unfortunately no one knows about the Catlayst AI because IT MAKES NO ****ING SENSE AND BREAKS THE  PLOT.

Yeah, I keep forgetting that noone knows the Catalyst is an AI. But I think Shep' could find a way to destroy it once s/he discovers it, especially a Sentinel or Engineer class.

Perhaps, but he/she has no tools to work with, although anderson probably still has his omni tool....and medigel...
Hacking an AI is meant to be really hard though. Oh, Shep still has a working Radio, put in  a call to joker? Say "Shoot here." ? That might work.

Exeunt the real moment of sacrifice Shepard makes in exchange for victory against the Reapers - as well as a scene that actually makes sense (if we take the scene with Shepard breathing in rubble into account).

[Mria]

conventionaly realy doesn`t seems possible but making that stupid litte kid show u how much u accomplished troughout the game, uniting Quarian and Geth, uniting a whole galaxy full of prejudice and distrust, making a difference when evrything seemed lost and making the starkid realize that if ``the variables have changed`` this leaves alot of room to interpretate that change and maybe give the whole dam galaxy a chance to prove they might have a chance to live in peace between synthetics and organics, yeah i think that winning conventionaly that way would be possible.

[Whatever42]

Enhanced wrote...

Since the reapers are organic/synthetic beings, the only way to fully understand their tech (if it's even possible) is to sarcifice and experiment on intelligent living organisms (like TIM was doing).  The governments probably wouldn't be willing to do that.

Well, we don't need to fully understand. 
The Thannix was built without Overlord like experiments. 

Of course, ultimately, what governments would really be left? Reaper tactics appear to target large population centres. And after watching trillions die, I think the remaining military commands would pretty be up for anything. Those who just watched all their loved ones die would probably be queuing up to volunteer for experiments. 

Heck, I'd develop lethal bioweapons that I would deploy on worlds as they're being conquered, to spare them the horror. This wouldn't be nice.

[ld1449]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

I'm willing to listen if you're willing to look at the evidence that it's extremely unlikely...

-It took a good chunk of the Alliance fleet to take down Sovereign, while he wasn't fighting back

-It took a good chunk of the Quarian fleet to take down the Rannoch Reaper, while he wasn't fighting back

-It took the galaxy's biggest Thresher Maw and a good amount of luck to take down the Tuchanka Reaper, and it was a small one.

-The galaxy's best military, the Turians, were being decimated, so much so that Palaven had to be fully evacuated.

-Hammer was being overrun on Earth. It would also take just a few Reapers to decimate the ground forces, really.

-The Migrant Fleet is made up of mostly civilian ships

-The Alliance Fleet was weakened during the Sovereign/Geth attack

-It's been said or implied many times that the Salarians and Asari aren't built for conventional war.

-The Reaper force at Earth wasn't the entire Reaper force, and they were still winning.

-It takes one Reaper to take out 10 of our ships and it takes ten of our ships to take out a Reaper...

Well guys?

For one thing, because its a game, people want to be able to walk away with the same feeling they had at the end of ME1 and ME2, which this game simply doesn't provide.

True it did take nearly the whole alliance fleet to bring down sovereign, but after they brought it down, technology was advanced by leaps and bounds by reverse engineering. By the time Mass Effect 3 rolls around a good portion of the Turian and alliance fleet, through codex entries have already developed Thannix cannons and have implemented them. Thanix cannons of course being mini reaper guns like what the Normandy used to destroy the Collector ship in ME2

The Quarian vessels couldn't make a precision strike against the reaper, the moment they could it went down.

The turian's were being decimated, but they were also holding their own after a point. The Reapers weren't able to just take that moon of theirs, they had to take it by inches. And after the Krogan arrive there are multiple codex entries later (if you have allers on the team) on how they were able to win key victories by blowing up several Reapers through the use of retrofitted nukes that they brought aboard Reaperships.

Furthermore it only took 2 thanix missiles to destroy a reaper on earth, and the fleet had hundreds, or even thousands.

The Reaper fleet on earth wasn't their full force this is true, but we don't know how much of the fleet it really was. If it was anywhere above 40 percent of the Reaper forces then a victory on earth would severely cripple the Reapers ability to carry out a full harvest.

According to vigil when the Reapers struck the protheans they shut off the relays, cutting off the empire from eachother, and then systematically went system by system, plannet by plannet. Since they couldn't do that here with the citadel not being under their control this implies that what the reapers did in our cycle was spread themselves very thin. Attacking Homeworlds with bulks of their fleet to put us in dissaray and leaving one or two others as placeholders in various systems to harrass the races there so they didn't have the time to ammass some kind of weapon or a force of any significant size against them.

And according to all reports Eath faced the bulk of this attack from the get go, a number that only increased when the Reapers needed to consolidate their defenses around the citadel meaning that they most likely drew back chunks of the fleets attacking Palaven and Thessia to do so, leaving a skeleton force to keep harrassing Turians and Asari

The notion that they were spread thin is compounded by the fact that Tuchanka only had one reaper as far as we could tell, and that Sur'kesh, the Salarian Homeworld was also largely left alone since they were not nearly as big a threat as the Turian and Asari warriors.

[spiriticon]

BerzerkGene wrote...
You can't know we don't have the numbers. At least 100 years means there
would be significant forces for an entire century to keep the whole
reaper fleet at bay. That is not a short amount of time.
As for
conventional victories again greater forces, its been done. Far more
than you would think. Human history is littered with them. Granted, it
was ground wars. But the combined military minds of the galaxy should be
able to come up with a plan. a better plan than they did, anyway
If you take out the biggest chunk, at
earth, including harbinger, the rest of them wouldn't pose as much of a
threat because they wouldn't be as massed.
As to how that could be achieved i have already made several points as to how. The main point being thanix cannons.

100 years is a short amount of time in the eyes of the universe actually.

And also, in the history of humankind, humans have always fought humans. Their own kind. So conventional victories are possible because you know the strengths and advantages of being a human. Build a wall tall enough and it's a good enough defense cause humans can't fly. The Reaper's are a complete unknown entity until the events of ME1.  Information is power and Shepard's cycle has too little.

Modifié par spiriticon, 03 juillet 2012 - 02:39 .

[Urdnot Amenark]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

-Hammer was being overrun on Earth. It would also take just a few Reapers to decimate the ground forces, really.

Depending on your readiness, Hammer can hold their own against the Reapers, so this is a nonissue at best.

[spirosz]

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

-Hammer was being overrun on Earth. It would also take just a few Reapers to decimate the ground forces, really.

Depending on your readiness, Hammer can hold their own against the Reapers, so this is a nonissue at best.

Are you serious? 

[Urdnot Amenark]

ld1449 wrote...
For one thing, because its a game, people want to be able to walk away with the same feeling they had at the end of ME1 and ME2, which this game simply doesn't provide.

I don't even think it's that. If we argue that then we'll get the usual detractors making the rather tired dancing Ewoks reference when that's not even the type of victory most of us wanted to see. However, if we did go that route, I'd say the second would be more appropriate, since it was a much darker ending that depended upon preparation, teamwork, and lot's of great conflicts that could possibly end with sacrifices. In ME3's case, sacrifices are obviously inevitable, and a conventional victory nonetheless would have conveyed this just as beautifully.

[BerzerkGene]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Enhanced wrote...

Since the reapers are organic/synthetic beings, the only way to fully understand their tech (if it's even possible) is to sarcifice and experiment on intelligent living organisms (like TIM was doing).  The governments probably wouldn't be willing to do that.

Well, we don't need to fully understand. 
The Thannix was built without Overlord like experiments. 

Of course, ultimately, what governments would really be left? Reaper tactics appear to target large population centres. And after watching trillions die, I think the remaining military commands would pretty be up for anything. Those who just watched all their loved ones die would probably be queuing up to volunteer for experiments. 

Heck, I'd develop lethal bioweapons that I would deploy on worlds as they're being conquered, to spare them the horror. This wouldn't be nice.

They probably would, i'm wondering why no one thought to use Yahg as shock troops. They're tougher and stronger than friggin Krogan and are smart enough to think tactically. I also reckon they would rather fight than die. Especially since you just put them on the front lines.

Indeed! The Thanix cannons! Highly underrated by the writers.
A flesh eating virus would probably be best, nothing left to huskify, plus it might cause some current husks to die because the stuff holding them together was just eaten.
They probably would, i'm wondering why no one thought to use Yahg as
shock troops. They're tougher and stronger than friggin Krogan and are more than
smart enough to think tactically. I also reckon they would rather fight
than die. Especially since you just put them on the front lines. This is all without even trying to genetically enhance them. Imagine a Yahg even stronger than the Shadow Broker. It would be like the Hulk in the Avengers, but smart.

[Urdnot Amenark]

spiros9110 wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

-Hammer was being overrun on Earth. It would also take just a few Reapers to decimate the ground forces, really.

Depending on your readiness, Hammer can hold their own against the Reapers, so this is a nonissue at best.

Are you serious? 

While they still have certain problems, during certain segments of the Earth mission, they actually are doing far better than they would normally. I don't know exactly how it works, but it does.