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[Jonata]

 ...all this talking about the endings made me almost forget how amazing that thing is.

I think that this 50 minutes mission single-handedly beats almost every single videogame story I have ever seen in my entire life as a gamer. Hell, it even beats some of my favourite movies! Curing the genophage has everything: is epic in scale, has tons of funny moments and ultimately makes you cry for the loss of a friend and smile for the salvation of an entire culture. 

It is one fo the best example of gaming writing ever. And not only this, it also stay faithful to Mass Effect's primary principle: it's our own story. There are tons of variables that felt into place to change history: Maelon's data, Mordin surviving the Suicide Mission, Wrex surviving on Virmire... all those choices were shining across the sky of Tuchanka and I knew that I did everything right. What a satisfaction.

I think that before condemning the game as a whole for that ending, we should all watch at what the writers have accomplished in the remaining 40+ hours of game. Mass Effect 3 may not be perfect as a whole, but if "Tuchanka: Cure the Genophage" isn't videogame's perfection, I don't know what it is.




Some mandatory quotes:

"What about Wreav?"
"No way he survived that. He was a pain in the ass anyway."

"I am Urdnot Wrex and THIS IS MY PLANET."

"Had to be me. Someone else may have gotten iit wrong."

[Tymathee]

Yeah, the game itself was awesome, i could understand if they had no idea how to end it.

[SpamBot2000]

Credit where credit's due, it is very good.

[Fnork]

I wholeheartedly agree. It was awesome.

[MzAdventure]

Agreed OP - that mission was awesome, inspiring, moving... epic.

[Shanky]

Agreed. The two big "morality" arcs in the game, Krogan/Salarian conflict and Geth/Quarian conflict, are superbly done. I think that in the midst of all the criticism over the initial ending, people forgot that.

Mordin sacrificing himself to get the cure out might be the best scene in the game. If you went that way, anyway. Although convincing him to let the sabotage happen (which can only happen if Wrex and Eve are dead) feels so anti-climatic...he just agrees and kind of...walks away. As much as I like Mordin, it feels right to let him die doing what he wants to do.

[Femlob]

Tuchanka and Rannoch are definately the high points of the game.

It's one of the reasons why so many people, yours truly included, complain about the rest. Why can't said rest not be as awesome as those two arcs?

[MzAdventure]

Shanky wrote...

Agreed. The two big "morality" arcs in the game, Krogan/Salarian conflict and Geth/Quarian conflict, are superbly done. I think that in the midst of all the criticism over the initial ending, people forgot that.

Mordin sacrificing himself to get the cure out might be the best scene in the game. If you went that way, anyway. Although convincing him to let the sabotage happen (which can only happen if Wrex and Eve are dead) feels so anti-climatic...he just agrees and kind of...walks away. As much as I like Mordin, it feels right to let him die doing what he wants to do.

Have you seen the gut-wrenching scene if you have to kill him?  I was trying a renegade playthrough and couldn't continue to the next mission after witnessing that!

[Chaotic-Fusion]

Absolutely. The only thing I didn't like is how they changed Mordin's voice actor and dumbed down some of his dialogue.

[Hackulator]

 At the end of my first run through of Tuchanka, my exact words were "I feel like I already just beat an entire video game." I know this has been said before and has become lost in the arguments, but the simple truth is that ME3 was one big ending to the storyline of Mass Effect, we got multiple parts to those endings, and many of them were awesome. To quote a character from another story I truly enjoy:


"Endings are hard. Any chapped-ass monkey with a keyboard can poop out a beginning, but endings are impossible. You try to tie up every loose end, but you never can. The fans are always gonna b!tch. There's always gonna be holes. And since it's the ending, it's all supposed to add up to something. I'm telling you, they're a raging pain in the ass.....No doubt -- endings are hard. But then again...nothing ever really ends, does it?"

Modifié par Hackulator, 03 juillet 2012 - 06:40 .

[AlexPorto111]

Tuchanka is one of the best missions ever made on video games.Period.

[legion999]

It was indeed excellent.

[Eain]

The game was excellent every time it deviated from the main plot. Whenever it returned to it however, badness just oozed from your monitor.

[timj2011]

Yup, thats one of the redeeming qualities of ME3. It's when things get very lofty and epic is when its at its best

[RustyMcBlade]

Tuchanka was awesome indeed. If u take away the crucible/catalyst/etc, the game is awesome.

[Bantz]

best line you missed

Threshermaw getting close
Tell me something I don't know
Iron in truck, excellent supplement to threshermaw diet.

[Jonata]

Bantz wrote...

best line you missed

Threshermaw getting close
Tell me something I don't know
Iron in truck, excellent supplement to threshermaw diet.

Wanted to post that, but I couldn't remember it right! 

Also one of the best is:

"Shepard, activate those hammers!" 
"There's a REAPER in my way, Wrex"
"I know, you get all the fun!"

[Calibrations Expert]

Tuchanka is the best mission in the entire trilogy.

[Xilizhra]

Tuchanka honestly fell kind of flat for me, because I was rather torn between the krogan and salarians. I sided with Wrex because I didn't want to betray a friend, but the return of the krogan makes me very nervous.

[Jonata]

Xilizhra wrote...

Tuchanka honestly fell kind of flat for me, because I was rather torn between the krogan and salarians. I sided with Wrex because I didn't want to betray a friend, but the return of the krogan makes me very nervous.

Until Eve dies, we can assure that the Krogan are not going to wage war against Turian and Salarians. I imagine them becoming some kind of massive Security force in the Galaxy after the Reapers' war.

[Galbrant]

Tuchunka is easily one of my favorite plotlines.

[SpamBot2000]

Xilizhra wrote...

Tuchanka honestly fell kind of flat for me, because I was rather torn between the krogan and salarians. I sided with Wrex because I didn't want to betray a friend, but the return of the krogan makes me very nervous.

Surely that's not falling flat though? Sounds like you were conflicted in a good way, based on stuff that's actually in the games.

[Xilizhra]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Tuchanka honestly fell kind of flat for me, because I was rather torn between the krogan and salarians. I sided with Wrex because I didn't want to betray a friend, but the return of the krogan makes me very nervous.

Surely that's not falling flat though? Sounds like you were conflicted in a good way, based on stuff that's actually in the games.

Conflicted may be good, yes, but I wasn't passionate about it like some others are. The krogan do deserve another chance, yes, but I'd kind of hoped we could help their culture along for a while longer before the cure came. Then again, maybe the cure is necessary for cultural advancement. I hope it works out that way.

[jstme]

Yes, Tuchanka is one of the best missions in the entire trilogy. Sadly though, it is not all about the journey. Destination matters too.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Played ME3 twice, sabotaged the cure twice. It was fun to trick Wreav but I preferred my first playthrough with Wrex still alive. Shooting Mordin in the back is harsh, then having to kill Wrex too, damn, I wouldn't feel safe being on Shepard's squad.