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The penetration bonus from AP ammo applies to only 1 of 2 equipped weapons, the one that you have in your hands at the start of the match. (at least on PC, don't know of consoles)


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omegamantis113

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Jack Crapper wrote...

omegamantis113 wrote...

corlist wrote...

omegamantis113 wrote...

I am pretty sure the top weapon on the loadout screen is the one you start the mission with. Much simpler than remembering the above post.


Not always. It only shows you the type sequence. Obviously the weapon level is still the main factor.
A good point, regardless.


We really shouldn't have to worry about stuff like this. Made me have to change loadouts completely on some of my characters. :(

I don't believe this is true.  I'll have to double check, but from memory, the weapons are displayed according to the weapon heirarchy as if they were all equal levels (AR>SG>SR>SMG>HP) regardless of weapon level.
Could be wrong though.


I think your right. Aside from my promo weapons all of my guns are maxed. I didn't start using my AP ammo without ap mod until I started getting rid of my smg rail amps. Really annoying in battle when I would pull out my hurricane and couldn't penetrate a guardians shields or light cover.

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I just got my typhoon to level X, and I always play the Destroyer with my Piranha X and the Typoon, so the Piranha was always higher ranked of them both, and even with ap rounds the typhoon couldn't shot through glass, (without piercing mod) but now when the typhoon is nr 1, it's a lot better.

Modifié par PolisMassa, 28 août 2012 - 08:28 .


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Has there been any developer commentary regarding this issue? They'll usually confirm bugs like this.

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Loscakes wrote...

Has there been any developer commentary regarding this issue? They'll usually confirm bugs like this.


I haven't read anything from a dev about this. Its definitely still there, my Harrier was borderline useless this morning when I was running with a paladin with AP3

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Not only the trough cover shooting is not working for the secondary (as stated in the title) but also the armor piercing is not working for the secondary .. Only the ammo damage works for the secondary ...

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Bumping a very useful thread, I definately had what i thought were "bad day games" when it seemed to take extra time and effort to kill stuff (using AP ammo) with my weapon-based classes.

Interestingly enough I also had a very bad time using Dissruptor Rounds (lvl 3 or 4 i cant remember) while using Harrier (lvl 9) and Pirahna (lvl 10) - with Harrier being my primary weapon on my soldier. Not sure if ammo applied properly (though as i understand bug occurs with AP ammo only but that situation struck me as extremely odd so i'm mentioning it here). During that specific game I found myself switching to Pirahna and having easier time stunning enemy. Both weapons had armor piercing mod.

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peddroelmz wrote...

Not only the trough cover shooting is not working for the secondary (as stated in the title) but also the armor piercing is not working for the secondary .. Only the ammo damage works for the secondary ...


Ah, thanks for that. I read all these threads and posts and still thought the armor reduction was working for the second wep.

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Uchimura wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Not only the trough cover shooting is not working for the secondary (as stated in the title) but also the armor piercing is not working for the secondary .. Only the ammo damage works for the secondary ...


Ah, thanks for that. I read all these threads and posts and still thought the armor reduction was working for the second wep.


The cover part of it was easier to spot with conventional test ..The other effects are harder to test /notice ...

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I've sometimes noticed something like this as well, so it does make me wonder about bugs. However, because of networking, I'm wondering if you were host on your test matches? I ask because networking sometimes has an effect of making fast firing weapons shoot blanks or low damage, and at other times able to chew up targets. Comparing a slow fire weapon to a fast fire might have an effect on it. Even two full auto weapons can fire at very different rates. Perhaps a good test (other than testing as host) would also be comparing single rounds intentionally spaced out.

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.458 wrote...

I've sometimes noticed something like this as well, so it does make me wonder about bugs. However, because of networking, I'm wondering if you were host on your test matches? I ask because networking sometimes has an effect of making fast firing weapons shoot blanks or low damage, and at other times able to chew up targets. Comparing a slow fire weapon to a fast fire might have an effect on it. Even two full auto weapons can fire at very different rates. Perhaps a good test (other than testing as host) would also be comparing single rounds intentionally spaced out.


tested (verified) as host  by me using a Raptor fired in single shot mode ..

also tested and (verified) as host by corlist during his Typhoon tests (again fired single shot mode ..)

BUG confirmed ...  

#86
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now I understand!!!!!
happened to me (Harrier II / Piranha X)

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Bump to see if this has been fixed or not, can't test atm

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Paynez wrote...

Bump to see if this has been fixed or not, can't test atm


Lol! If you're serious - yes it's fixed.

If you're just trolling and necroing, as I think you are... Have a nice banhammer! :D

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Deerber wrote...

Paynez wrote...

Bump to see if this has been fixed or not, can't test atm


Lol! If you're serious - yes it's fixed.

If you're just trolling and necroing, as I think you are... Have a nice banhammer! :D

Damn my reputation exceeds me. lol

But I was asking a legitimate question not necroing on purpose :P

#90
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been fixed long ago

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... who uses 2 guns anyway?

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it was fixed a long time ago, but I remember before the fix I would use warp ammo on my Typhoon since it was not level 10 and couldn't get the AP bonus when I used two guns on my Destroyer :P

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DarklighterFreak wrote...

... who uses 2 guns anyway?


Tech Armour!

Have fun :)

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Those were dark, dark days.