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[InfamousResult]

GameKillerFT wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We have the ability to discount data from Firebase White. If we count FBW, then Geth are by far the easiest faction.

Bull****

I'll believe them over you any day.
They have the data. You don't.

[Rosalina is my BabyCakes]

If they are buffing Cerberus they better be nerfing that ****ing hand cannon also.
Besides that Cerberus is the most balanced fraction there is and I don't see why they are changing it >.<

[Anders028]

Well Phantoms to the Geth Infiltrator with Geth Plasma Shotgun are meal time but leave the Phantoms.  Phantoms are probably kill the most people in a Cerberus Gold run.  Turrets are already powerful too.

[HeavysetRJ]

I'd rather the Geth were fixed, every time they come up in MP I groan out loud because I know I'm going to get cheaped by the rocket troopers or hunters all game long.

[InfamousResult]

shooterking07 wrote...

If they are buffing Cerberus they better be nerfing that ****ing hand cannon also.
Besides that Cerberus is the most balanced fraction there is and I don't see why they are changing it >.<

Because "balanced" to you does not necessarily mean "balanced" to everybody else.
Their data says that Cerberus is too easy. That's actual data. Numbers.

In your case, you're just talking out of opinion and bias. To you, "balanced" could just be "something that's easy enough for me".

[Anders028]

Most of the time its 5-10 minutes more on a Gold than silver for over double the credits. Even making in to wave 6 in Gold is the credits of a Silver run in likely 20 mins or less.  

This is in response to any Silver players might make more than Gold players. 

Modifié par Anders028, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:24 .

[llandwynwyn]

So Bioware gives us OP weapons like the krysae and reegar, everyone uses it - including me, I use the Krysae for fun sometimes - causing an increase of successful Gold missions and now they think Cerb is too easy. Just great.

Modifié par llandwynwyn, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:25 .

[RecoonHoodie]

If i am right bio checks this thread now please see this video 
.

Its proving that phoenix fitness is bugged, and there is something wrong with him. And no thats not false video. For me it seems the phoenix classes gets downed a lot faster than other clases. And no, its not about the smash and lash animation. Something with the fitnes is bugged, because as soon i get out of cover i am down in 1 second (gold).

[Razerath]

BioWare, please buff the living hell out of Cerberus. I would welcome the challenge! Buff them to the same level of PWN as the Phantom's hand cannons. And then give the Phantoms teleporting abilities.

Thanks!

[GallowsPole]

Anders028 wrote...

Most of the time its 5-10 minutes more on a Gold than silver for over double the credits. Even making in to wave 6 in Gold is the credits of a Silver run in likely 20 mins or less.  

This is in response to any Silver players might make more than Gold players. 

Hence the reason you have farming on Glacier (Cerberus usually) and White (Geth usually). With Cerberus buffed, farming wont be quite easy for most.

[Sinapus]

...are they going to give the Nemesis a tactical cloak?

[Lambda_00]

Sinapus wrote...

...are they going to give the Nemesis a tactical cloak?

...I think that would be a good thing for them (the nemesis).

[Edalborez]

RecoonHoodie wrote...

If i am right bio checks this thread now please see this video 
.

Its proving that phoenix fitness is bugged, and there is something wrong with him. And no thats not false video. For me it seems the phoenix classes gets downed a lot faster than other clases. And no, its not about the smash and lash animation. Something with the fitnes is bugged, because as soon i get out of cover i am down in 1 second (gold).

Fitness isn't bugged. One thing to note that isn't commonly known is that Biotic Charge gives damage resistance for 4 seconds. Potentially messes up tests.

[BobWalt]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

This week's balance changes will be delayed. We're working to get them out as soon as possible but they won't be showing up today.

Among other things, this week we're looking at bumping up the difficulty of Cerberus a little since our data shows that they are by far the easiest faction on all difficulty levels and have been for quite some time. The Geth and Reapers, on the other hand, are neck and neck for difficulty.

Whats is that data exactly? full extractions ? times players got downed? average times ? missiles fired per round? Enlight us a bit please

We have many data sources including waves completed, extractions, player faction choice, time completed, etc. and everything per map. On top of that we have internal playtests and gather feedback from the community through these forums.

The problem with internal playtests and the forums are they are extremely experienced players this give skewed results. Ideally an analysis of games that wipe out would give a better handle on enemy ability versus game difficulty.  Right now I do not find Silver too easy why make it harder.  BTW - I would much rather play Geth on any map than Reapers.

[Javo2357]

RecoonHoodie wrote...

If i am right bio checks this thread now please see this video 
.

Its proving that phoenix fitness is bugged, and there is something wrong with him. And no thats not false video. For me it seems the phoenix classes gets downed a lot faster than other clases. And no, its not about the smash and lash animation. Something with the fitnes is bugged, because as soon i get out of cover i am down in 1 second (gold).

Fitness is not bugged, here is a thread with a video proving it.
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/12465151

[duffpastorius]

Give the nemesis pre nerf tactical cloak with krysae snipers. Also let the Atli teleport like banshees and have space magic hands. The engineers need to have flame turrets just like us and the guardians need 3m thick shields.

[Cat Lionheart]

Eric Fagnan wrote...



Among other things, this week we're looking at bumping up the difficulty of Cerberus a little since our data shows that they are by far the easiest faction on all difficulty levels and have been for quite some time.

Thank you for confirming what I have been trying to tell my friends for a while.

[JLoco11]

Cerberus really is the easiest enemy to beat... All you need is 1 Asari in the room and it's that simple.

Easiest suggestions to make them more difficult:

Give 2 enemy types Armor to replace or in addition to shield.  Either the Centurion, Nemesis, Guardian or Engineer that way stasis can't affect them.

Increase Atlas walking speed.

Have Nemesis fire off a few shots like a Ravager (maybe even a stun lock effect)

[Edalborez]

BobWalt wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We have many data sources including waves completed, extractions, player faction choice, time completed, etc. and everything per map. On top of that we have internal playtests and gather feedback from the community through these forums.

The problem with internal playtests and the forums are they are extremely experienced players this give skewed results. Ideally an analysis of games that wipe out would give a better handle on enemy ability versus game difficulty.  Right now I do not find Silver too easy why make it harder.  BTW - I would much rather play Geth on any map than Reapers.

Bolded and underlined for you.

[RecoonHoodie]

Edalborez wrote...

RecoonHoodie wrote...

If i am right bio checks this thread now please see this video 
.

Its proving that phoenix fitness is bugged, and there is something wrong with him. And no thats not false video. For me it seems the phoenix classes gets downed a lot faster than other clases. And no, its not about the smash and lash animation. Something with the fitnes is bugged, because as soon i get out of cover i am down in 1 second (gold).

Fitness isn't bugged. One thing to note that isn't commonly known is that Biotic Charge gives damage resistance for 4 seconds. Potentially messes up tests.

I looked at other threads and can agree with that. But my personal expirience (Phoenix ADEPT) shows that this character dies a lot. I've play a lot with asari adept (not justicar). If i am right she has no damage resistance bonuses. So i always spec her 6/6/6/4/4. That means 700 health and 700 shields. I can stay from 2 to 4 seconds shooting (behind cover) and then go back to cover for shields to recover, but when i play phoenix, the moment i get out of cover my shields are down. Instantly and he is specced 0/6/6/6/6 that is 825/825. I just cant understand it. Maybe it has something to do with a big body hit area or something like that but i feel something is wrong with him and i am sure about it.

[Javo2357]

RecoonHoodie wrote...

Edalborez wrote...

RecoonHoodie wrote...

If i am right bio checks this thread now please see this video 
.

Its proving that phoenix fitness is bugged, and there is something wrong with him. And no thats not false video. For me it seems the phoenix classes gets downed a lot faster than other clases. And no, its not about the smash and lash animation. Something with the fitnes is bugged, because as soon i get out of cover i am down in 1 second (gold).

Fitness isn't bugged. One thing to note that isn't commonly known is that Biotic Charge gives damage resistance for 4 seconds. Potentially messes up tests.

I looked at other threads and can agree with that. But my personal expirience (Phoenix ADEPT) shows that this character dies a lot. I've play a lot with asari adept (not justicar). If i am right she has no damage resistance bonuses. So i always spec her 6/6/6/4/4. That means 700 health and 700 shields. I can stay from 2 to 4 seconds shooting (behind cover) and then go back to cover for shields to recover, but when i play phoenix, the moment i get out of cover my shields are down. Instantly and he is specced 0/6/6/6/6 that is 825/825. I just cant understand it. Maybe it has something to do with a big body hit area or something like that but i feel something is wrong with him and i am sure about it.

Yeah, I know what you mean. It's just that the class is very squishy regardless of how much is invested in Fitness (because humans start out with 500/500). 825/825 vs 700/700 just doesn't make much difference on Gold, but yeah, it is definitely hard to stay out of cover using either Adept imo, it's easier with the PV because of BioCharge tho 

[Falcon365]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We have the ability to discount data from Firebase White. If we count FBW, then Geth are by far the easiest faction.

Just out of curiosity, if you use the same standards of judging geth difficutly as you do Cerberus, what does the data tell you about geth if you discount FBW? Where do they rank in terms of difficulty from your point of view?

Modifié par Falcon365, 04 juillet 2012 - 12:52 .

[Mysterious Stranger 0.0]

MotherlessHotChick wrote...

I have a better idea, how about you fix the vanguard glitches

I have a even better idea.


Go learn how patching and balance changes work.

[Major Durza]

They are probably just going to make phantoms spawn in hordes. Expect many more 4-phantom death charges! All of them with the palm shields of invincibility.
Now my Reegar will be a mandatory weapon against Cerberus after these changes take effect.