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FeralJester616

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Cyonan wrote...


You must not have been here when the game launched, as people were complaining about Novaguards being immune to damage 95% of the time before the game was even out.

Most players don't actually say anything because the forum community makes up less than 0.01% of the entire playerbase of the game. It doesn't mean they think the game is balanced, just that they aren't giving feedback on it.

They're simply bringing all factions of gold in line with each other. It's not boosting gold as a whole. If you aren't up to the challenge of gold there is two other difficulty levels for you to play in.


Actually I have been here since the opening of the Demo to public as I refused to buy Battlefield3 and since Day1 of the UK launch of ME3. Novaguards are still OP, giving subpar players a feeling of godhood and causing them to fail miserably in silver and gold. So when are we going to see them nerfed the same way the infiltrators have been? I'm guessing never as BW seems to have a major jones for DERPguards...

Of all the players that I actually speak to, none of them enjoy the constant changes and alot have actually quit. The game was fine in the begining, a little balanced in favor of the players yes but isn't that the point of a co-op game? 
Seriously, what happend to the fun game that we had in the begining? I'll tell you what happend...

The whinners got their way and the rest of us have to suffer. Ever wonder why most of the playerbase don't complain? Most people vote with their wallets and I'm sorry to say that once BW start making us pay for the MP DLC we're going to see a serious decline in players.... Mark my words.

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Actually, I'd pay for ME3 MP DLC, even if no-one was playing it, simply because I'm a tool.

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FeralJester616 wrote...
Actually I have been here since the opening of the Demo to public as I refused to buy Battlefield3 and since Day1 of the UK launch of ME3. Novaguards are still OP, giving subpar players a feeling of godhood and causing them to fail miserably in silver and gold. So when are we going to see them nerfed the same way the infiltrators have been? I'm guessing never as BW seems to have a major jones for DERPguards...

Of all the players that I actually speak to, none of them enjoy the constant changes and alot have actually quit. The game was fine in the begining, a little balanced in favor of the players yes but isn't that the point of a co-op game? 
Seriously, what happend to the fun game that we had in the begining? I'll tell you what happend...

The whinners got their way and the rest of us have to suffer. Ever wonder why most of the playerbase don't complain? Most people vote with their wallets and I'm sorry to say that once BW start making us pay for the MP DLC we're going to see a serious decline in players.... Mark my words.


Novaguards are OP, so that leads to people dying a lot with them? I'm not entirely sure that's how being OP works. Everything is OP in Bronze.

Most of the playerbase doesn't complain because most of any customer base doesn't complain. That does not mean they think the product is perfect and cannot be improved. That does not mean that they hate changes in the product.

If the whiners had gotten their way every time they whined, then there would have been a lot more changes than what we've gotten. Bioware uses more than our feedback to balance their game. Infiltrators got knocked down because 33% of gold players were picking them, not because a few people cried about Tactical Cloak on the forums.

and Bioware charging for DLC in a microtransaction model is an entirely different discussion. I wouldn't pay for it, and it's not because I hate the balance changes.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

KrazyMF wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

What? OP Phantoms are not enough? Geth need a nerf. Actually not a nerf, but bug fixing! And till you fix those bugs you should nerf them.

Stop buffing enemies! Most of the weapons and some of the powers don't even cut it now! You're rapidly turning this game into a tedious chore to play.


This.

And also, Geth and Reapers are NOT neck and neck as far as difficulty. Your data is flawed from FBWGG spam, Geth are by far the most difficult.

I would rather do Reapers all day every day than end up against the Geth. The Geth are and exercise in frustration.

Also of note, I'm beyond bored with this game because of tedium, if you buff Cerberus to the point of Geth... and by that I mean buff Phantoms... I will just quit at this point. I'm tired of tedium and frustration associated with this game due to bugs and stupid cheap crap like a Phantom's magic palm cannon that is somehow more powerful than the Atlas' giant cannon that is as big as a player.


We have the ability to discount data from Firebase White. If we count FBW, then Geth are by far the easiest faction.


Are you discounting the data from FB Glacier then, as well? A lot of Glacier speed runs are against Cerberus and that might be skewing your data too, though perhaps not as much as FBW.

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If it weren't for the balance changes there would only be a few decent weapons. If you go back and take note that the wraith, talon, indra, saber, scorpion, hurricane, and viper were all subpar before balance buffs. So, I welcome the buffs and nerfs that Bioware does.

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FeralJester616 wrote...

Actually I have been reading the balance changes. I using my own opinion for my above statement. The game has gotten harder, period, and the few things that actually helped lesson this burdon are all getting an almighty whack with the nerf stick....

Say what you like, I stand by my opinions...

Than you would be provable false. 
If you look at the long list of changes, there's been a lot more buffs to weapons and abilities than there have been enemy buffs and general nerfs. 
Sorry but the game hasn't gotten all that harder, except for one bug fix (headshots on bosses) and some bugs related to the Geth.

Hell look at the buffs the Geth got. The only one who wasn't weak was the Geth Prime.

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As I said in another post, I think fixing weapons (especially ARs) is far more important than tweaking Cerberus...