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#26
mrwizeguy

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

This week's balance changes will be delayed. We're working to get them out as soon as possible but they won't be showing up today.

Among other things, this week we're looking at bumping up the difficulty of Cerberus a little since our data shows that they are by far the easiest faction on all difficulty levels and have been for quite some time. The Geth and Reapers, on the other hand, are neck and neck for difficulty.

Whats is that data exactly? full extractions ? times players got downed? average times ? missiles fired per round? Enlight us a bit please

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Achire

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Perhaps you should find another way to deal with the power creep of your multiplayer game than constant buffs to enemies (see Geth, all sync kill enemies). Maybe spend some time actually balancing new items such as Krysae, Reegar and Grenade Gear before adding them to the game. Not to mention the characters like GI and MQI.

Modifié par Achire, 03 juillet 2012 - 08:08 .


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BjornDaDwarf

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Well, at least I can stop refreshing every 15 minutes now :P

The turret is by far the most dangerous thing in the Cerb lineup, hopefully it remains untouched (though I'm not sure it can get more deadly).

I agree with Guardian movement speed getting a slight bump. Nemesis RoF could certainly be bumped up. Minor damage buffs to troopers, centurions, engineers and nemesis. Minor HP increase to all those as well.

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If Phantom gets buffed...
Asari Adept/Vanguard*: Hah, just take a look at them trying to get that phantom
Ex-Cerberus Adept/Vanguard**: Oh look, here it comes... Ha, I knew that this GI won't avoid her magnetic instant kill!

*- Stasis
**- Lash ignoring shields/barriers

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jamesfrom818

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Cerberus should throw more grenades, smoke and explosive. In fact, the entire battlefield should be enveloped in smoke.

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My predictions:

Faster Atlas
Guardian RoF increase
Centurion RoF and Damage increase

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I always thought the nemesis was kinda easy. Maybe get rid of their red laser beam?

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Nemesis can use proxymines with 10m radius AoE and Blade Armor.

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Shampoohorn wrote...

My predictions:

Faster Atlas
Guardian RoF increase
Centurion RoF and Damage increase


I'd be ok with this and maybe add the nemesis rate of fire buff.

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mrcanada wrote...

 . . . I would probably increase the speed at which Atlas's can move as well, maybe give their bullets piercing properties?


I like that piercing idea, that would be nasty.

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hope you all enjoyed the weekend.

oh for cerberous just remove or decrease the chance that the centerion will use it's meele attack.

thinking it's a phantom and rushing you to meele... it has a gun let it use it. 9/10 times on most maps the centerion will rush you, to meele, then shoot you. something is just bugged in there not needing a buff

easier I think not 4-5 phantoms conga line rushing on gold is annoying.
so please DO NOT buff Phantoms it's not the answer, to making Cerberus harder.
neither is giving Atlas mechs more "health"  is NOT the answer either.

though giving assault troopers 100 shields on Gold would be interesting and would not cause to much of a change but it would be notice able

Modifié par comrade8472, 03 juillet 2012 - 08:13 .


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Air Quotes wrote...

What? OP Phantoms are not enough? Geth need a nerf. Actually not a nerf, but bug fixing! And till you fix those bugs you should nerf them.

Stop buffing enemies! Most of the weapons and some of the powers don't even cut it now! You're rapidly turning this game into a tedious chore to play.


This. I only play Cerberus because they're the only ones I can stand to play and even then that's too much with the Turrets that can cut through you like a flaming chainsaw through room-tempurature butter and Phantoms with their invincibility shields, 50% damage resistance during thier acrobatics (which they can do so continuously that your chance of hitting them with powers like Warp are slim to none), palm cannon that does more damage than anything else except the Atlas AND has an insta-kill move.

Looks like all my headway into moving onto Silver and Gold is about to undone considering how overboard Bioware has been with buffing enemies in the past *cough*Geth*cough*

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The changes are delayed because they had a holiday yesterday... I think. Not sure when canada day is.
Also, people don't seem to understand that 'gold' should be difficult. Although I don't find it that difficult.

Modifié par Mgamerz, 03 juillet 2012 - 08:14 .


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The Geth should be a priority, not Cerberus. Geth are lame enemies with cheap tactics, they are no fun at all to fight against unlike Cerberus and Reapers. I much rather see changes that make the Geth an interesting enemy instead.

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puldalpha wrote...

NO! I must go another day without my precious drug...i mean balance changes.


This.

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In Reapers, pretty much any unit can kill you. Cannibals, Marauders, Brutes, Banshees, Ravagers, Swarmers, and even Husks all present a mortal threat. Same goes for the Geth. But with Cerberus, you're only worried about a couple of things... Atlasses, Turrets, and mostly Phantoms. The other enemies are pretty much harmless.

Tougher, faster, more aggressive Guardians, faster and more coherent advances with support from smoke and frag grenades from the troopers and centurions, and better sniping from the Nemesis (particularly at long ranges) would all be welcome changes.

Atlasses seem to perform their role as a slowly advancing, durable wall of threat well enough, and Combat Engineers are a threat with their turrets... and would be more of a threat if the rest of the faction was better at flushing out players or applying pressure while the Engineer is busy setting things up.  Phantoms already do plenty (their palm cannon does more damage than a geth prime's rifle... why?), and feel like Cerberus is putting most of their eggs in one basket rather than having a more balanced offense.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 03 juillet 2012 - 08:27 .


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so i'm guessing

Nemisis will cheap 2 shot fire from their butt like the rocket troopers do, guardians will snipe across the map with their talon (increased range like the pyro) an extra atlas each spawn and 1 less guardian and 2 more phantoms.

Phantoms don't need a buff by any means

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Air Quotes wrote...

What? OP Phantoms are not enough? Geth need a nerf. Actually not a nerf, but bug fixing! And till you fix those bugs you should nerf them.

Stop buffing enemies! Most of the weapons and some of the powers don't even cut it now! You're rapidly turning this game into a tedious chore to play.

Ah,yes,"the balance change team also fixes bugs.".We have dismissed that claim.

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Ah well, thanks for letting us know. Now I dont have to keep F5ing every half hour.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

This week's balance changes will be delayed. We're working to get them out as soon as possible but they won't be showing up today.

Among other things, this week we're looking at bumping up the difficulty of Cerberus a little since our data shows that they are by far the easiest faction on all difficulty levels and have been for quite some time. The Geth and Reapers, on the other hand, are neck and neck for difficulty.


This is only true about Cerberus on one map. Just like it was only true that the Geth were easy on one map (FBW).

Its these types of IA buffs that have stopped me playing vs Geth altogether now. Can't fight Geth because mass stunlock has ruined it. Can't reload, can't shoot back, can't use a power, can't use Ops Survival. Ruined.

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Mgamerz wrote...

The changes are delayed because they had a holiday yesterday... I think. Not sure when canada day is.
Also, people don't seem to understand that 'gold' should be difficult. Although I don't find it that difficult.


Hey, they can't have balance changes on July 4th, this here's 'merica!! B)

#47
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Eric Fagnan wrote...

We feel that Phantoms are in a good spot right now so we won't be changing them.


THANK GOD

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

We feel that Phantoms are in a good spot right now so we won't be changing them.


Thank. God. =]

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Lucius Aelius

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Nice to hear, is that all you'll be doing though?

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Mgamerz wrote...

The changes are delayed because they had a holiday yesterday... I think. Not sure when canada day is.
Also, people don't seem to understand that 'gold' should be difficult. Although I don't find it that difficult.

Its because you r killing everything with your eagle , you should make a new petition to let you trade your medgels an rockets since your account cant hold em ... dude be on the gamers side coz i see what you r doing here aaaright?