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As a new player starting with ME1 now, what I DESPISE the most.


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I admit, driving around in itself isn't all that bad, (if mind-numbingly tedious very quickly) it's the audio. It annoys me more than the galaxy map or Normandy themes because you spend a considerably larger amount of time listening to the howls of wind on alien planets whilst driving around than just about anything else. Trust me, after awhile of hearing the same winds blowing as you run about completing sidequests, your ears will bleed too.

Also, I agree and disagree. The rubber ball is fine in that it perfectly fills the roll of a vehicle and gets you to a location faster than if you were walking. It's not fine in that if you give it anything other than smooth hills or mountains the bloody thing bounces around like, well, a very bouncy rubber ball. The terrain was annoying though, I agree with you there.

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Durandael wrote...

I admit, driving around in itself isn't all that bad, (if mind-numbingly tedious very quickly) it's the audio. It annoys me more than the galaxy map or Normandy themes because you spend a considerably larger amount of time listening to the howls of wind on alien planets whilst driving around than just about anything else. Trust me, after awhile of hearing the same winds blowing as you run about completing sidequests, your ears will bleed too.

Also, I agree and disagree. The rubber ball is fine in that it perfectly fills the roll of a vehicle and gets you to a location faster than if you were walking. It's not fine in that if you give it anything other than smooth hills or mountains the bloody thing bounces around like, well, a very bouncy rubber ball. The terrain was annoying though, I agree with you there.


Good points, but I'm STILL having fun!  :happy:

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Fortunately the hacking mini-game gets bearable and pretty easy once you do it a few times. The one "mini-game" that I despise is the micro managing of weapons and attachments. At the end of every mission or side-quest I have to spend a bit of time going through the loot and putting on better attachments, exchanging weapons and armor, and then selling the chaff.

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MattyBoy714 wrote...

Fortunately the hacking mini-game gets bearable and pretty easy once you do it a few times. The one "mini-game" that I despise is the micro managing of weapons and attachments. At the end of every mission or side-quest I have to spend a bit of time going through the loot and putting on better attachments, exchanging weapons and armor, and then selling the chaff.


I agree, it gets tedious having to try to keep track of what and what to use on what assignment against who knows what foes.  I just wing it.  :whistle:

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Its better than Alpha protocol minigames...

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JackSwyr wrote...

 I'm playing ME1, I know this is the ME3 forum but no one is there.  


That might be because you can't post there unless you buy the game, and many of the most ardent fans of Mass Effect can't stand what ME3 did to the setting...

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

JackSwyr wrote...

 I'm playing ME1, I know this is the ME3 forum but no one is there.  


That might be because you can't post there unless you buy the game, and many of the most ardent fans of Mass Effect can't stand what ME3 did to the setting...


HUH?  I DID buy the game, for the PC and the Xbox!

What do you mean by what they did to the setting?

I only mentioned this because the ME1 forum usually doesn't answer my posts so I inferred that since it is an older game most people have moved on to ME3.  I have all three games and am playing them in order.  I originally started with ME3 but a lot of people suggested that I start from the beginning so that's hwhat I'm doing and having a lot of fun with it.

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The mini games in ME one did kind of blow chunks. Just keep some Omni-Gel around. I liked the ones in ME2 - they were ez and fun. Do not waste money in the stores and markets to extend hacking - its a waste of cash.

What you are going to hate in ME2 though, is the planet scanning. It will drive you bonkers.

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I also have the game for the Xbox (which I JUST bought) and I played a little of it and IT'S mini-game is insne. You have to press a button on the controller? I have YET to get it right. It shows I have to press X and when I do it tells me I failed. What am I doing wrong with THIS mini-game as the PC version with the wheel is different.

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JackSwyr wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

JackSwyr wrote...

 I'm playing ME1, I know this is the ME3 forum but no one is there.  


That might be because you can't post there unless you buy the game, and many of the most ardent fans of Mass Effect can't stand what ME3 did to the setting...


HUH?  I DID buy the game, for the PC and the Xbox!

What do you mean by what they did to the setting?

I only mentioned this because the ME1 forum usually doesn't answer my posts so I inferred that since it is an older game most people have moved on to ME3.  I have all three games and am playing them in order.  I originally started with ME3 but a lot of people suggested that I start from the beginning so that's hwhat I'm doing and having a lot of fun with it.


OK, "there" refering to the ME1 forum, not the ME3 forum.

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BTW, these are the kinds of things that lead to EAware blocking most people from using the ME3 forums at all.

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

http://calitreview.com/24673/

http://kotaku.com/58...as-so-terrible/

http://social.biowar...index/9748825/1


Oh wait, you can't post on that last one, because it's locked... EAware doesn't want you to discuss the game until you've given them some money.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:29 .


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What defines an RPG?

The ability to play a role -- the character aspect.

It's not about numbers and rules and rolls. It's a role-playing game, not a roll-playing game.

Now, many people don't get that, and treat them as very complex open-space board-games -- and it's that approach which was first adapted to computer games in those early "RPGs". Many people who've only played something like D&D in that adversarial board-game manner, or who've only been exposed to the term "RPG" as it's misused in the computer gaming industry, believe that "RPGs" are defined by customizing attributes and skills and gear for best effect.

Series like Fallout, Dragon Age, Mass Effect, and so on, changed that. You could, to the extent allowable by the medium, define and control who your character was. They brought elements of actual roleplaying games to the computer. In ME1 and ME2, who Shepard was depended on the choices that you, as the player, made. In DA:O, you defined so much about the character.

Player agency was king when it came to the character.

Now, after DA2 and ME3, it appears that Bioware wants to go off into the "interactive cinematic experience" direction, which has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with roleplaying games. Player agency has its heart ripped out on the altar of the the writers' need to indulge in their "art".

Back at the tabletop, in a roleplaying game, the last thing you want is a gamemaster so in love with and bound to his own story, that he has no room for the players to change things and make things happen of their own volition -- the ending they want is the ending you're going to get, no matter what. And yet Bioware has turned into "that guy".

Like that GM, maybe Bioware should just go write a book or make a movie.

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Well said but I bought Bioware's first two books and read the first one. It was excellent and provided a LOT of back story I need for the game. I guess a lot of people have differing opinions.

I just mentioned that I don't like mini games in any game I play, it's a distraction. But since they put it in there I have to use omni-gel or try to crack it. It's not really THAT bad, just repetitive.

I LIKE the ME franchise. I'm having a great deal of fun with it.

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I have given up on all future Bioware products.

Or rather, EAware.

Bioware is clearly just a label slapped on more of the extruded gaming product that EA has been crapping out for years. Remember, EA's most successful franchise is the yearly reselling of the same basic NFL game over and over to the same customers.

Never mind the problem of having to install spyware on your computer just to play the games you already paid for.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 15 juillet 2012 - 10:14 .


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Killjoy Cutter wrote...


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OT: The Minigames cause me unbearable pain as well, but just wait until Planet Scanning and driving around on the uncharted worlds :/

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JackSwyr wrote...

Well said but I bought Bioware's first two books and read the first one. It was excellent and provided a LOT of back story I need for the game. I guess a lot of people have differing opinions.

I just mentioned that I don't like mini games in any game I play, it's a distraction. But since they put it in there I have to use omni-gel or try to crack it. It's not really THAT bad, just repetitive.

I LIKE the ME franchise. I'm having a great deal of fun with it.


Yea the books are good, but don't forget to check out the comics that takes place inbetween each game series. . Not sure if anyone reads up on the comicss as well thought I would chime and say its worthing reading through them though.

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Thanks but I have never been into comics. I dunno why. Getting much better at the PC mini-game. Been to ALL the planets, finished Noveria, and Feros too, have cool armor and weapons and now on to Virmire. I can NOW see why so many people get emotionally invested in this game. It hooks you right in and doesn't let go.

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JackSwyr wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

JackSwyr wrote...

 I'm playing ME1, I know this is the ME3 forum but no one is there.  Anyway, after playing quite a bit I have discovered what I absolutely DESPISE the most about this game.  NOT then ending (yet anyway, haven't gotten there yet) but I LOATHE the STUPID PC mini-game with the spinning blocks where you have to unlock just about everything.  I mean does he have to play the darned mini-game to use the BATHROOM!?!?!?  ARGH!!

I know I can turn things into omni-gel and I do after getting frustrated enough with reloading but I HATE this!!!!!  :pinched:

Your going to love ME2's minigames then....especially the connecting circuits one. :innocent:


Oh great, it gets worse in ME2?  I already have all three games and I sometimes get so frustrated I'm ready to toss them in the trash.  Is there a mod or a cheat to disable them?  All games with mini-games stink BIG time.  Like Skyrim with IT'S stupid lockpicking.  ARGH!!!

Not sure if someone else has pointed this out yet, but ME2's circuit board and hacking mini-games actually serve a purpose; the circuit board helps with your mouse accuracy and thus your aim, and the hacking gives people new to shooters practice using WASD under pressure.  The ME1 hacking game was just silly.  Do it enough and you eventually don't mind it, but it's still silly.

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I hope it's not going to be too difficult with a PC and an Xbox controller running uner Xpadder.

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Doug M wrote...
Not sure if someone else has pointed this out yet, but ME2's circuit board and hacking mini-games actually serve a purpose; the circuit board helps with your mouse accuracy and thus your aim, and the hacking gives people new to shooters practice using WASD under pressure.  The ME1 hacking game was just silly.  Do it enough and you eventually don't mind it, but it's still silly.

Aren't you contradicting yourself here? The mini-game in Mass Effect 1 where you've the rotating concentric rings do the exact same thing. So how is ME2's hacking pedagogical while the ME1's hacking is silly? For me it seems as if you're splitting hairs.

To be honest I prefer the mini-games in Mass Effect 1, they're more intellectually stimulating. That's mostly because of Mass Effect 1 having the Bioware classic: Towers of Hanoi, which is present in both KotOR and Mass Effect 1, though sadly missing in ME2&3.

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Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 28 juillet 2012 - 05:37 .