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[Zaidra]

Nero Narmeril wrote...

I would say either Kaidan or Ashley.

....that's retarded. Kaiden/Ashley isn't there for half of the game, and has to be invited back onto the Normandy if they survive to the point where you get them back. They're just another passenger. 

[Zaidra]

I think it would be Liara. Everyone seems to respect her, and besides EDI (who is an AI, and I don't think the alliance would let an AI be in charge) she seems to be the perfect candidate for the job, and the most informed person there. Remember that she was a specialist brought in by the Alliance (see the conversation when you first meet up with her on Mars), and is supported by Admiral Hackett. She has unquestionable resolve to end the fight, and (in my opinion) is the one that best understands just what it is that they need to do to finish the war. She understands the catalyst and is constantly throwing more forces towards the alliance to help in the war effort.

in other words: She has her priorities straight.

Don't take me for a huge Liara fan, I prefer Tali. This is the first game that I actually cared about Liara at all...

so you're getting this from an objective... perspective....

[tholloway93]

i should imagine EDI does it as she is the ship and there is no real need for an XO. id say EDI and Traynor probably share it in some way

[RejectedRose]

Diana Allers

[Zaidra]

RejectedRose wrote...

Diana Allers

troll or idiot? I say the other thread posters decide! 

Modifié par Zaidra, 04 juillet 2012 - 06:57 .

[Aloren]

James Vega... jk

When it comes to function on board, probably EDI, but when it comes to authority/"rank", I'd say Liara followed by Garrus. It's hard to tell though, the Normandy crew reminds me of the all-star game. You have two spectres, a quarian admiral, a turian general (I think...or 1 who says "at ease general" anyway), the shadow broker, the last survivor of a giant empire who was also probably a general, and a sentient AI... even the least important squadmate is spectre material.

That's really not like ME1 where you had a spectre and then 2 soldiers, a cop, a mercenary, a teen on a road trip, and an archaeologist fresh out of college.

[dreman9999]

 It's Garrus.

Why? Because My Shepard said so.
Seriously, at this point you can just pick who the XO is.

Modifié par dreman9999, 04 juillet 2012 - 07:25 .

[disappearingone11]

It's relative to who's alive and/or on the ship. For the most part I'd say Garrus is the de facto XO (assuming he's alive), but if it has to be a human Alliance officer, then it would be Ashley/Kaiden when or if present. If neither are there (and Chakwas isn't necessarily there, either), then it would probably fall to Adams. Joker, Vega, and Cortez are all Lieutenants of some sort, and Traynor's beneath them.

[AlphaDormante]

It's Garrus on my ship.

In a joint operation with other species, I want an alien as high-ranking personnel. Garrus is perfect for the job; position of respect amongst his own people, eternal bro (and space boyfriend) to my Shepard, developed leadership skills.

VS could be an option, but two things hold me back from that: one, like I said, I want a non-human holding the position. Two, they're not even around for a long time, and I'm not yoinking the position away from Garrus so I can give it to them halfway through the game.

Only other option I can think of is Liara...but honestly, I wouldn't give the position to her. She's not a figurehead for her species like Garrus/VS are, and hasn't displayed any leadership skills that my Shepard would know of. That doesn't mean I doubt her capabilities...it just means Garrus is a better choice all around for me.

Plus, Garrus already showed signs of taking charge. When Shepard goes to rest after Tuchanka, s/he tells him to wake him/her up if there's trouble. He also promises to arrange plans while Shep is asleep. Sounds like an exchange with an XO to me.

tl;dr: Garrus for me, yo.

[FAButzke]

AlphaDormante wrote...

Plus, Garrus already showed signs of taking charge. When Shepard goes to rest after Tuchanka, s/he tells him to wake him/her up if there's trouble. He also promises to arrange plans while Shep is asleep. Sounds like an exchange with an XO to me.

tl;dr: Garrus for me, yo.

I've post it before but perhaps it went unnoticed:

"Except that he (Garrus) says this: "I'll make sure Joker does not launch any suicide missions."
Which implies that Joker has the power to launch missions.

Also, Hackett tells Joker to monitor Shepard activities due to stress.

So... All logic points to Joker being the XO."

So, unless some of you can contest (with logic) what I've just said above, Joker IS the XO.
Or, perhaps, there isn't one. Garrus and Liara are not Alliance. Kaidan/Ashley are not there for most of the game.

Modifié par FAButzke, 04 juillet 2012 - 08:23 .

[Wuartz]

Isn't Shepard officaly the XO? Anderson was supposed to be the ship's captain again.

[AlphaDormante]

FAButzke wrote...

AlphaDormante wrote...

Plus, Garrus already showed signs of taking charge. When Shepard goes to rest after Tuchanka, s/he tells him to wake him/her up if there's trouble. He also promises to arrange plans while Shep is asleep. Sounds like an exchange with an XO to me.

tl;dr: Garrus for me, yo.

I've post it before but perhaps it went unnoticed:

"Except that he (Garrus) says this: "I'll make sure Joker does not launch any suicide missions."
Which implies that Joker has the power to launch missions.

Also, Hackett tells Joker to monitor Shepard activities due to stress.

So... All logic points to Joker being the XO."

So, unless some of you can contest (with logic) what I've just said above, Joker IS the XO.
Or, perhaps, there isn't one. Garrus and Liara are not Alliance. Kaidan/Ashley are not there for most of the game.

Sorry friend; I saw that post, but it just escaped my mind while I was making the reply.

First, I don't really take that seriously, since Garrus was making a joke. But if one does look at that seriously, then doesn't that imply that Garrus has the authority to stop Joker? Which would make him higher-ranking, and thus, the XO.

But in all honesty, ME3 is set up so that I think you could really put whoever you want as your own XO. If it's Joker for you, more power to the guy.

[FAButzke]

AlphaDormante wrote...

FAButzke wrote...

AlphaDormante wrote...

Plus, Garrus already showed signs of taking charge. When Shepard goes to rest after Tuchanka, s/he tells him to wake him/her up if there's trouble. He also promises to arrange plans while Shep is asleep. Sounds like an exchange with an XO to me.

tl;dr: Garrus for me, yo.

I've post it before but perhaps it went unnoticed:

"Except that he (Garrus) says this: "I'll make sure Joker does not launch any suicide missions."
Which implies that Joker has the power to launch missions.

Also, Hackett tells Joker to monitor Shepard activities due to stress.

So... All logic points to Joker being the XO."

So, unless some of you can contest (with logic) what I've just said above, Joker IS the XO.
Or, perhaps, there isn't one. Garrus and Liara are not Alliance. Kaidan/Ashley are not there for most of the game.

Sorry friend; I saw that post, but it just escaped my mind while I was making the reply.

First, I don't really take that seriously, since Garrus was making a joke. But if one does look at that seriously, then doesn't that imply that Garrus has the authority to stop Joker? Which would make him higher-ranking, and thus, the XO.

But in all honesty, ME3 is set up so that I think you could really put whoever you want as your own XO. If it's Joker for you, more power to the guy.

I see what you mean but I don't think it was a joke. Not in the way you described. The joke was the implication that Joker could launch a suicide mission (like you did in ME2) while you sleep. That's the joke Garrus made.
I don't like it either. I was like this when Garrus said that: . But it made sense after that.
I'm rather inclined to agree with you that "there isn't a XO this time around".

[thehomeworld]

Garrus

[BioWareAre****s]

I was under the impression it was Garrus... I know I'm not alone, I've seen people talk about Garrus as XO as if it's cannon.

Nemy Montoya wrote...

If it's not Liara then they're probably not too happy about losing their office to her.

I want to see either claw marks (if it's Garrus), bullet holes (if it's Ash) or biotic scorch marks (if it's Major Sexy Kaidan) around the door, where the XO showed up, got mad at having their room stolen, and threw a tantrum 

[bas_kon]

FAButzke wrote...
Or, perhaps, there isn't one. Garrus and Liara are not Alliance. Kaidan/Ashley are not there for most of the game.

I don't know about your games, but in mine I just had six missions without VS (Palaven, Grayson Academy, Sur'kesh, Rachni, Tuchanka, Citadel Coup) the rest of the game, which is a lot more than that, they are there. I suppose it depends on how you play.

I would guess it's VS, when they are at the hospital or on a mission, maybe it's Joker and when they come back to the Normandy, they get to be XO again. Plus, your XO is given to you by the rules (highest rank officer). You don't get to choose who's the one you who get's the job because s/he's your bro/girlfriend.

[Phategod1]

Nero Narmeril wrote...

I would say either Kaidan or Ashley.

By Alliance standards as soon as they come aboard them, Probably The engineer  LT Adams. is the next higest ranking officer. 

[Joryn01]

ABN Tali Fan wrote...

Joryn01 wrote...

To play Devil's Advocate to those saying it's an Alliance ship, sometimes during times of joint operations there can be allied personnel put in charge. The events of ME3 are the biggest joint operation ever seen. With that said, Garrus was being called "Sir" by Turian generals on Palaven's moon. Not saying that he was the actual XO, just saying that it may not be entirely out of the realm of possibility.

As far as Dr. Chakwas goes, medical officers are still non-combatants. Non-combatants are not in the chain of command in a warship. If it was a medical ship it would be a different story.

While in Afghanistan my unit conducted a lot of joint operations with the Italian army. Typically whoever owns the operation ( ussally the one who provides the most assets or directed by higher HQ ) would command the operation. 

So in the case of the Normandy the Alliance provides most of assets and is the higher HQ. Therefore the chain of command would have to follow Alliance rank structure. It does not matter if Ash/Kaiden are not present the whole time as soon as they come aboard they assume the role. (That is a by the book answer) Exceptions can be made in both real life and in the game it all depends on the situation. 

I guess the example I was thinking of was how there are times we have Aussies and Brits running things at the Deid.

[Joryn01]

FAButzke wrote...

AlphaDormante wrote...

Plus, Garrus already showed signs of taking charge. When Shepard goes to rest after Tuchanka, s/he tells him to wake him/her up if there's trouble. He also promises to arrange plans while Shep is asleep. Sounds like an exchange with an XO to me.

tl;dr: Garrus for me, yo.

I've post it before but perhaps it went unnoticed:

"Except that he (Garrus) says this: "I'll make sure Joker does not launch any suicide missions."
Which implies that Joker has the power to launch missions.

Also, Hackett tells Joker to monitor Shepard activities due to stress.

So... All logic points to Joker being the XO."

So, unless some of you can contest (with logic) what I've just said above, Joker IS the XO.
Or, perhaps, there isn't one. Garrus and Liara are not Alliance. Kaidan/Ashley are not there for most of the game.

What you're saying also implies that Garrus has the authority to stop Joker from launching a mission.

[Lajkos]

I would say Garrus or Liara, most likely Liara sense she was on the Normandy (almost) from the get go.

I imagine the chain of command goes:
1. Shepard
2. Liara
3. Garrus
4. Joker/EDI

Modifié par Lajkos, 04 juillet 2012 - 11:50 .

[MrDbow]

Since Normandy is now an Alliance vessel again, protocols will be similar to that which was established in ME1. Most likely the most senior officer on board (which is not known since we do not know every single person on the ship currently by name) would be XO and that could potentially fall to Lt. Engineer Adams. My guess is Joker would not be XO only because he, himself, was only reinstated back into the Alliance after Shepard turn himself in pre-ME3.

But honestly, it does not matter for ME3 only because the whole XO thing was was used back in Mass Effect to establish and introduce to players "how" the Alliance works.

[Lajkos]

nvm internet is screwing around

Modifié par Lajkos, 04 juillet 2012 - 11:49 .

[KenLyns]

If you watched enough Star Trek, the chief medical officer carried the rank of lieutenant commander, so Dr Hacksaw Chakwas would be XO.  

In Normandy SR1, Pressley could be seen in command while Shepard was off the bridge. There was no equivalent role in ME2 or ME3 - Joker did everything with automation by EDI.

[rdnanez]

i know garrus isnt alliance but after the priority tuchanka mission you pretty much hand the ship over to him when you go get some sleep.

[Arturia Pendragon]

I would imagine it's whomever you want it to be. There is no official XO.

That said, EDI would make the most sense. She is the Normandy, after all.
Then again, there's always Dr. Chakwas, who never leaves the ship...
Or James Vega...who was preselected for N7 training...

Modifié par Arturia Pendragon, 05 juillet 2012 - 04:27 .