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[Harbinger1985HU]

Sarah_SR2 wrote...

It would need to be someone with some starship command, tactical and combat experience. Joker has none of these as he's only a pilot, albeit the best one in the fleet. If the VS is onboard then they'd have to assume the role of the XO because of their Alliance rank, spectre status and combat experience. If the VS isn't onboard then maybe it could be Vega. He's Alliance and has stated that he'd like his own command one day. He also assumed temporary command of a squad that took out a collector ship and gained a promotion for the job he did there in next to impossible circumstances and despite losing most of the squad and the colonists. He is also a candidate for the N7 program which isn't handed out to just anyone.

Vega as XO? Everyone refused that, but true he already be an XO/acting commander for a mission. But the N7 candidate or rank doesn't mean you're a higher ranking officer! Check the Codex, it doesn't gave higher ranks or previliges.

My idea is Javik. Why? Because his been a soldier/officer 50000 years before the whole Normandy even dreamed. And if Shep doesn't around I'm sure he will throw anyone via airlock, if he wants.
Dr. Chakwas can be the Commander of Normandy. I mean the ship doc can say "the captain doesn't fit for duty, relieve him/her". Of course that time the next highest ranking officer will acting captain, not the doc.

[Tim_H]

I don't think there was an XO. Liara, for instance, had no authority over the guards when the guards locked down Javik, and she wasn't Alliance Military, so if she performed in the capacity of an XO, it would have been an unofficial position. I think EDI "ran stuff". In the extended cut, when Joker caves in and flies away, it happens after Liara pleads with him to do it. I don't believe the ME3 Normandy had an official rank hierarchy, considering that the crew is the maintenance people and engineers who were on board doing their routine when the reapers struck. Traynor isn't even an officer, as far as I can tell. Her rank is specialist, which may be an alliance technical rank like what the US air force once had with Tech Sergeants grades 4 through 8.

The highest ranking officer on board, other than Ash / Kaiden was probably Joker, and his sole interest was piloting the ship. He certainly didn't take charge of things when Shephard left the ship.

ME3 was an "ad hoc" crew bound together under Shephard's authority as a hero. I mean, heck, at the time of the Reaper invasion, Shephard was still technically under house arrest. Admiral Anderson likely didn't really have the authority to reinstate him. People listened to Shephard because the invasion had shown him to have been right all along.

You could say his command of the Normandy in ME3 was technically illegal. The Reapers attacked and Joker hijacked the ship to rescue Shephard and Anderson. In all the confusion and chaos, no alliance authority was enforcing those technicalities.

If the Normandy was in "drydock" for repairs and upgrade, it may not even have had an assigned commander.

[Zartarc]

What about Adams? He is the chief engineer, which is normally the third in command onboard a ship.

[KBronx17]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Garrus is most likley XO the VS never has a scene were they take charge, and garrus has admirals saluting him

I'm so stupid...what does VS stand for?

[disappearingone11]

Consider this: the VS (Virmire survivor) takes command of the Normandy while you and Anderson are scrambling around after the attack on Vancouver. All other Alliance personel who serve on the ship throughout the course of the game except for yourself (and potentially Dr. Chakwas) are already on board. I'd consider this an indication that the VS is the highest ranking officer among them, and if Anderson had taken command as was expected (this is prior to your reinstatement), the implication would seem to be that the VS would serve as Anderson's XO. When you're reinstated at the last second and Anderson stays on Earth, you simply replace him in the pecking order, so the chain of command remains intact.

Now, obviously, what happens to the VS changes things, and it's not at all clear who's next in line. But I think it is clear that the VS does initially serve as the XO and would continue to serve in that capacity under normal circumstances.

[Sarah_SR2]

@Tim_H, Shepard's command of the Normandy was legitimate because he receives an email from Admiral Hackett confirming his/her reinstatement as an Alliance navy officer. And Hackett is the admiral of the fleet so his word is final. Shepard is the ship's CO in ME3. As for the XO, who knows. If Shepard was killed in action or otherwise unable to maintain command then I assume Hackett would immediately assign someone else, especially as he regards the Normandy as the "tip of the spear".

Modifié par Sarah_SR2, 07 juillet 2012 - 04:32 .

[Errationatus]

I think you've got it backward, OP.

Technically, Anderson is still in command of the ship, which makes Shepard the XO.

Remember, Shepard was never formally made captain of the Normandy, and it was intended as Anderson's "flagship", as it were, as Traynor recounts. Shepard wasn't even a Commander until Anderson recommissioned him.

Just because Anderson isn't on it, doesn't mean he's no longer the Captain of it.

It's just as likely to say Shepard is XO, and circumstances have simply rendered it that there's no captain.

It makes more sense to me, anyway.

/two cents

[Sarah_SR2]

That actually makes sense to me Jake. I guess Shepard is Anderson's XO, just as he was in ME1.

[Errationatus]

Sarah_SR2 wrote...

That actually makes sense to me Jake. I guess Shepard is Anderson's XO, just as he was in ME1.

That had been my take - as far as I know, because of circumstances, Shepard was never actually formally made captain of the Normandy, or a captain at all.  "Put in charge for the duration of a mission" is not the same thing.

Spectre status looks to have made ranks a tad moot.

[Hawat]

JakeMacDon wrote...

I think you've got it backward, OP.

Technically, Anderson is still in command of the ship, which makes Shepard the XO.

Remember, Shepard was never formally made captain of the Normandy, and it was intended as Anderson's "flagship", as it were, as Traynor recounts. Shepard wasn't even a Commander until Anderson recommissioned him.

Just because Anderson isn't on it, doesn't mean he's no longer the Captain of it.

It's just as likely to say Shepard is XO, and circumstances have simply rendered it that there's no captain.

It makes more sense to me, anyway.

/two cents

Yup, that makes a lot of sense. If that's the case, then Liara is sent to check in on Normandy, Garrus is taking care of things, while Shepard gets some rest and Shepards leaves Moreau in charge on one ocassion, because there is no formal Executive Officer. Yes, yes, that makes sense...

[Qilue]

Most likely candidate to be Shepard's XO is Garrus or Liara.

Many of you are forgetting that Shepard is a spectre and only takes actual orders from the Citadel Council. His (her) rank (as such) would be closer to director of an intelligence agency. Part of the spectre mandate is being able to requisition "anything" and do whatever is necessary (although I imagine they would need a really good reason to get a dreadnaught). So the XO doesn't really need to be an alliance officer, since the Normandy is technically a council warship when Shepard is the captain.

[Obadiah]

Garrus makes the most sense.

It probably would have been better if Shepard was allowed to designate someone in game.

[Alikain]

Tim_H wrote...
The highest ranking officer on board, other than Ash / Kaiden was probably Joker, and his sole interest was piloting the ship. He certainly didn't take charge of things when Shephard left the ship.

What are you talking about the highest ranking officer on board been Ash / Kaiden. You are wrong The highest is Dr Karin Chakwas. She is a Major rank According to the codex since ME1. She out rank both Ash / Kaiden and even Shepard.

[Napier93]

My money would be that initially it's Cortez, Vega, Adams  (All Lieutenants) don't think Joker would be in a position to assume command. Then it possibly could be the VS if & when they come aboard.

[Massa FX]

I'm 3 months late on this discussion, lol!

My opinion: The Alliance is a human military and the Normandy is an Alliance ship. Shepard is the only Commander that appointed aliens to crew membership. That does not mean they are commissioned officers of the Alliance.


In ME3, there is no real chain of command past Shepard getting her/his former rank. Before the VS comes aboard, the highest ranking human officer is the defacto XO. That means it could be one of three possibilities.

Joker- Still an Alliance officer as he was working on the Normandy retrofit along with EDI and a small engineering crew. Security was aboard overseeing his work but he was not detained and in the brig like Shepard.
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Adams- Always a loyal Alliance officer. No question he is a Lt. I could not see him leading anyone except engineers.

Vega- Vega is a Lt. He is a candidate for the N7 program. He's commanded a team of men. If he dropped the attitude, he is a good candidate for XO.

None of the aliens could command an Alliance ship, regardless of where they sleep.

When the VS comes aboard, they are the highest ranking officer and become the XO.

Just how I see it. Shepard is in full command of the Normandy whenever aboard the Normandy.

Modifié par Massa FX, 07 octobre 2012 - 12:16 .

[hadrain77]

My guess, un-named NPC that Bioware hasn't or doesn't want to disclose. The XO is supposed to take care of the behind the scenes things such as supply, maintenance and unit administration stuff the CO can't or shouldn't be burdened with. Miranda does that in ME2 and Pressly in ME1 but it seems no ones doing it in ME3 so I'd say some unnamed NPC. Liara and Garrus are out as they aren't Alliance, Joker is piloting, EDI's a robot, Adams is engineering, Chawcas is medical, and VS are not on the ship for most of the journey. Mass Effect also has a weird dynamic as Shep is the captian but he also leads the away missions.

[thearbiter1337]

I would say Adams or Garrus 

[firesprite1123]

garrus

[dirtdiver32318]

I would say Liara because she did take over the old XO office/room yet Garrus took over when he told shep to rest... so one of them

[obZen DF]

numark wrote...

Just curious, afaik in the previous games it was:

ME1 - Pressly
ME2 - Miranda
ME3 - ?

-peace

Colonel Saul Tigh?

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Well...I usually leave Kaiden to roast on Virmire and then saviour killing Ashley.

So I guess Joker or Liara are/is the XO.

[KyreneZA]

Joker -- he's the highest ranking Alliance officer on board after Shepard. And he's always on board unlike some of the other proposed candidates

/thread

[BluRay]

Sorry i'm a bit ignorant,what does mean XO? D:

[CaIIisto]

Executive Officer - or, second in command.

[BluRay]

Bester76 wrote...

Executive Officer - or, second in command.

Thank you,I think it is Traynor anyway