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Reasons why Refusal is the right ending. "Die free!"


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I wish there was a version of Destroy where Shep died and EDI and the Geth lived. That would be a great (if not the best) ending.

It's not like living Shep gets any damn closure anyway.

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Ryzaki wrote...

I wish there was a version of Destroy where Shep died and EDI and the Geth lived. That would be a great (if not the best) ending.

It's not like living Shep gets any damn closure anyway.


I want an ending where Garrus is cooking bacon.

No reason. :mellow:

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Greylycantrope wrote...

Life isn't an anime. Mass Effect IS a video game there's no reason it can't work that way.

 

Fair enough.

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Garrus has been fairly clear that he's prepared to die fighting, so has evenone else as far as I know.


Yes, so they can destroy the Reapers. If you reject then you're not destroying them. You think any of them would to die in a pointless fight? 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 04 juillet 2012 - 04:14 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

I wish there was a version of Destroy where Shep died and EDI and the Geth lived. That would be a great (if not the best) ending.

It's not like living Shep gets any damn closure anyway.

It won't be the best ending to some people because they won't get to bang their LI.
:P

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Thankfully, by not choosing refuse there will be children.  With refusal all of those children have been reaped.  But hey, at least you're all together....wiping out all advanced life.

My Shepard can live with her choice, and because of her, others will live with it too.


Edit:  AArrrgh! on the quotes not working

Modifié par SMichelle, 04 juillet 2012 - 04:18 .


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The Genophage wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I wish there was a version of Destroy where Shep died and EDI and the Geth lived. That would be a great (if not the best) ending.

It's not like living Shep gets any damn closure anyway.

It won't be the best ending to some people because they won't get to bang their LI.
:P


I know i'm taking the stereotypical view, but... I find myself sometimes wondering if the obsessive fans of certain LI's have ever seen a real man/woman naked.... :P

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Life isn't an anime. Mass Effect IS a video game there's no reason it can't work that way.

 

Fair enough.

Greylycantrope wrote...
Garrus has been fairly clear that he's prepared to die fighting, so has evenone else as far as I know.


Yes, so they can destroy the Reapers. If you reject then you're not destroying them. You think any of them would to die in a pointless fight? 

To be fair, Refusing is not a pointless fight, you choose not to take the Catalyst ultimanium and continue to fight, I think the galaxy can respect that.
^_^

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Aaleel wrote...

Refuse Catalyst lying, everyone dies
Refuse Catalyst is not lying, everyone dies
Use Crucible, Catalyst is lying everyone dies
Use Crucible, Catalyst is not lying, victory

Only one choice even gives you a chance.


Exactly this. 

The Genophage wrote...

To be fair, Refusing is not a pointless fight, you choose not to take the Catalyst ultimanium and continue to fight, I think the galaxy can respect that.
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

 

Yeah.. I doubt that. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 04 juillet 2012 - 04:17 .


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Carlthestrange wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

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Destroy: Kill all synthetics and EDI. You are a dick.
Control: Become the Reaper consciousness. Some people might see you as a dick.
Synthesis: Force unnatural evolution on an unsuspecting galaxy. You are a dick.
Refuse: Your cycle dies to protect your precious principles. You are a dick.

In terms of dickishness, Control seems like the least dickish. But even then, it seems that way a little.

Conclusion: No matter how you save the Galaxy, you are a dick. There is no "Best" ending. Its 4 choices of "Become the galaxies greatest ****."



Now that should be thread title!  Image IPB


Let me tweak this

Control: Become the Reaper consciousness. Force your will on the galaxy. You are a dick.

Fix'd.


...Hmm, that is a better fix, I admit.


I thought so. ;)

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Aaleel wrote...

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Refuse Catalyst lying, everyone dies, Next Cycles wins legit.
Refuse Catalyst is not lying, everyone dies, Next Cycle wins legit.
Use Crucible, Catalyst is lying everyone dies, The cycle continues.
Use Crucible, Catalyst is not lying, victory,  the cycle continues because he is lying.





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Carlthestrange wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I wish there was a version of Destroy where Shep died and EDI and the Geth lived. That would be a great (if not the best) ending.

It's not like living Shep gets any damn closure anyway.


I want an ending where Garrus is cooking bacon.

No reason. :mellow:


...could he even eat beacon? :?

Oh well Vega'd probably give him tips. :P

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Ryzaki wrote...

...could he even eat beacon? :?

Oh well Vega'd probably give him tips. :P


He may not be able to eat it... but he can still cook it.

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ImperatorMortis wrote...
Yes, so they can destroy the Reapers. If you reject then you're not destroying them. You think any of them would to die in a pointless fight? 

Doesn't seem pointless, the're still fighting for surivival even if they fail.
Hopeless yes, but they were prepared for that, there was no guarantee the Crucible would work in the first place, it was a gamble to begin with.

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The Genophage wrote...

To be fair, Refusing is not a pointless fight, you choose not to take the Catalyst ultimanium and continue to fight, I think the galaxy can respect that.
^_^

Pssst! I give you a tip. Certain people in here are to stubborn to understand that.

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The Genophage wrote...

It won't be the best ending to some people because they won't get to bang their LI.
:P


Bleh. It's not like we get a reunion with the LI anyway. And then just pick control and HC Shep uploading himself to a mobile platform like EDI's. There they can bang their LI and I can get my awesome ending with EDI and the Geth alive and not deciding to hang out with the damn Reapers.

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Carlthestrange wrote...

He may not be able to eat it... but he can still cook it.


True. So he's cooking for the rest of the crew then? 

Javik would probably calling cooking like that primitive. :lol:

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

Refuse Catalyst lying, everyone dies
Refuse Catalyst is not lying, everyone dies
Use Crucible, Catalyst is lying everyone dies
Use Crucible, Catalyst is not lying, victory

Only one choice even gives you a chance.


Exactly this. 

The Genophage wrote...

To be fair, Refusing is not a pointless fight, you choose not to take the Catalyst ultimanium and continue to fight, I think the galaxy can respect that.
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

 

Yeah.. I doubt that. 

How so? Is a united galaxy that will fight to the death for each other. I think that some would obviously oppose the idea, but some would be glad that they didn't commit major genocide to win a war and that they will fight to the death and not sell someone out.
^_^

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You have a very...optimistic view of the races is all I'll say.

Me? I think they couldn't kill each other fast enough.

Too bad there's not an ending that kills them all AND the Reapers.

And no some of the cretins survive (including goddamn Hackett) in Worst Destroy.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 juillet 2012 - 04:22 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

He may not be able to eat it... but he can still cook it.


True. So he's cooking for the rest of the crew then? 

Javik would probably calling cooking like that primitive. :lol:


Its my headcanon ending for Garrus. Tired of fighting, he set aside his gun and picked up a chefs hat. And became one of the greatest Turian gorumets in the galaxy.

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v TricKy v wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

To be fair, Refusing is not a pointless fight, you choose not to take the Catalyst ultimanium and continue to fight, I think the galaxy can respect that.
^_^

Pssst! I give you a tip. Certain people in here are to stubborn to understand that.

Apparently.

#721
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Personally I think death is overrated.  I think living sounds much better.

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v TricKy v wrote...

Pssst! I give you a tip. Certain people in here are to stubborn to understand that.


I've give you a tip. Certain people can't understand that most people don't want to die for someone elses random philosophy. 

Greylycantrope wrote...

Doesn't seem pointless, the're still fighting for surivival even if they fail.
Hopeless yes, but they were prepared for that, there was no guarantee the Crucible would work in the first place, it was a gamble to begin with.

 

It is pointless. They all know that they can't win against the Reapers without the Catalyst. You're talking about fighting for survival yet you're spurning the thing that lets ensures that survival.  

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Carlthestrange wrote...

Its my headcanon ending for Garrus. Tired of fighting, he set aside his gun and picked up a chefs hat. And became one of the greatest Turian gorumets in the galaxy.


LOL Garrus' scoped and droped restaruant huh? Doesn't sound too bad.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Carlthestrange wrote...

Its my headcanon ending for Garrus. Tired of fighting, he set aside his gun and picked up a chefs hat. And became one of the greatest Turian gorumets in the galaxy.


LOL Garrus' scoped and droped restaruant huh? Doesn't sound too bad.


The speciality is the Shepards Pie.

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

v TricKy v wrote...

Pssst! I give you a tip. Certain people in here are to stubborn to understand that.


I've give you a tip. Certain people can't understand that most people don't want to die for someone elses random philosophy. 

Greylycantrope wrote...

Doesn't seem pointless, the're still fighting for surivival even if they fail.
Hopeless yes, but they were prepared for that, there was no guarantee the Crucible would work in the first place, it was a gamble to begin with.

 

It is pointless. They all know that they can't win against the Reapers without the Catalyst. You're talking about fighting for survival yet you're spurning the thing that lets ensures that survival.  

It's not someone elses random philosophy, many people wouldn't want to sell a species to win, maybe those people who are way to afraid of death, but I can honestly say that many would go down fighting rather than to sacrifice someone. 
B)