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#51
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 Hey lookie here. We have trolls in our midst. What a suprise<_<
Dont you people have better things to do, like calling everyone stupid who picked Synthesis?

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Fauxnormal wrote...

6- I'm desperately trying to justify my troll logic and metagaming RAEG at Bioware for not giving me the ending I DESERVE!!!!111ONE!

Thats complete ignorance and stupidity, you obviously are to idiotic to engage in a conversation so i'll leave you to it.


Thanks for proving me right. name calling and foot stamping. Bravo.

What point? I never argued about about BW not giving me the ending I wanted, didn't argue against metagaming, and your calling my logic stupid with no defense, the ball is it your yard.


And it will stay there. Because there is no non-metagaming, non whiny BIOWARE DIDN'T GIVE ME MY HAPPY ENDING reason for choosing reject. NONE.

Every single 'explination' is so backasswards and stupid it would only make sense if you can understand- wait for it- TROLL LOGIC.



I listed various reasons why I choose refuse and you have yet to explained to me how my logic is "trolly".


I don't need to. Your 'reasons' and increasingly idiotic attmepts to defend them do all the work for me.

And you have yet to support that claim by doing anything but WRITINGZ LIKESS THISZ AND CALLINGSZ PEOPPLES TROLLS, so whos the one who writes idiotic attempts to defend themselves again?


Frankly? You're not worth the effort of doing anything but mock. You're so blatently stupid, and your logic is so blatently flawed and empty-headed, that you do all the work for me.

Yup, what im reading is the typical "Call the person stupid because i can't defend myself" don't worry, I understand.


Of course that's what you read! You're desperate to make yourself look correct, and, in true troll logic fashion, if you don't like it, you ignore it.

Carry on. ^-^

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

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Aaleel wrote...

If the Catalyst had never walked out, everyone would have used the crucible, not knowing how it worked or what it would do. Willing to accept whatever consequences came out of it. Something worse than any of the choices could have happened, and people were willing to live with it.

So at what point did things from I'm willing to accept whatever happens to nothing bad can happen I need to be able to sleep at night?

That's beside the point, you did know, and knew its consequences.


How is it besides the point.  Either you're willing to make sacrifices or you're not.  If you never saw the Catalyst, used the crucible and killed all the Geth, would you have considered yourself a murderer or having committed genocide.  Or would you have looked at it as a sacrifice that served the greater good and saved many more races from being reaped?

The dynamics never changed for me.  Why?  Because I knew the consequences of inaction.  Death for everyone including the Geth anyway. 

I would consider myself to have done Genocide, and the logic behind what your saying is that Shepard would somehow know what to do without the Catalyst telling him.


When the reapers came through for the first time.  Hackett sacrificed an entire fleet to allow two others to escape, because if he didn't all the fleets would have been destoryed.  Under you logic knowing the consequences beforehand and doing it anyway makes Hackett some type of murderer.  He should have just lost all the ships right there, and lived with a clean conscience not having sacrificed anyone.  Logic makes no sense at all.

Modifié par Aaleel, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:02 .


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krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

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krukow wrote...

Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.

Submission is preferable to extinction? The galaxy agreed to fight or die trying, not to commit genocide.


Destroy, along with the geth and EDI, also kills star brat and the reapers.  It SAVES all those people I listed, and kills your enemy.  That is not submission.  Please look words up before you use them, okay?

Your submitting to live under the Catalyst choices to win the war, commiting Genocide because starbrat told you because your afraid of extinction.

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You make a good enough point for me to back off. I still don't like it, and will probably never pick it, but it looks to me like a valid option. Good job of defending Refusal through all the hate it's getting.


Or not.


Well, I could sit here all day and argue with him about how damned stupid it is, but he appears to be incredibly stubborn, so it would be for nothing.


Hahaha, brilliantly put, sir.  Talking to people as empty headed as this is typically like ramming your head against a wal. You don't move the wall and you just get a headache.

but it's fun to mock.

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krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.



Death would be preferable to what the OP condemns all of those races to.  I'm sure many will instead be turned into a nice Reaper goo to help reap the next cycle.  But hey.  OP stood on principles - or trillions of dead - whatever. Image IPB

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.


OP doesn't realize that ALL wars have casulties. Killing the Geth is unfortunate indeed, but sacrifice one to save the many is alright with me.

From my original post, Now there will always be casualties in war, but no one agreed to be sold
in order to win the war
, furthermore committing genocide just for the fact to
ensure victory in the war because you’re afraid of extinction compromises the
agreement the galaxy agreed to, win this war together


Win together or die together is your logic? Seriosuly? Like I said, as sentinece organics we are ALL interested in our own survival and will gratefully sacrifice one race (who are not even organics might I add) to prevent our own extinction. That's how the world works. Stop trying to prove otherwise.

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What if you shot the tube and what the kid said was lie?
Instead of the reapers being destroyed all organics are magically teleported to a harvesting station....

And the same happens for control...

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.

Submission is preferable to extinction? The galaxy agreed to fight or die trying, not to commit genocide.


Destroy, along with the geth and EDI, also kills star brat and the reapers.  It SAVES all those people I listed, and kills your enemy.  That is not submission.  Please look words up before you use them, okay?

Your submitting to live under the Catalyst choices to win the war, commiting Genocide because starbrat told you because your afraid of extinction.


TROLL LOGIC-

I DUN WANT TO DO WHAT THIS THING I DON'T LIKE TELLS ME. TROLL NO WANT TO WIPE OUT A RACE.

TROLL WIPE OUT ALLLLLLL THE RACES! THAT SHOWS STARBRAT!

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[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

6- I'm desperately trying to justify my troll logic and metagaming RAEG at Bioware for not giving me the ending I DESERVE!!!!111ONE![/quote]Thats complete ignorance and stupidity, you obviously are to idiotic to engage in a conversation so i'll leave you to it.
[/quote]

Thanks for proving me right. name calling and foot stamping. Bravo.
[/quote]What point? I never argued about about BW not giving me the ending I wanted, didn't argue against metagaming, and your calling my logic stupid with no defense, the ball is it your yard.
[/quote]

And it will stay there. Because there is no non-metagaming, non whiny BIOWARE DIDN'T GIVE ME MY HAPPY ENDING reason for choosing reject. NONE.

Every single 'explination' is so backasswards and stupid it would only make sense if you can understand- wait for it- TROLL LOGIC.



[/quote]I listed various reasons why I choose refuse and you have yet to explained to me how my logic is "trolly".
[/quote]

I don't need to. Your 'reasons' and increasingly idiotic attmepts to defend them do all the work for me.

[/quote]And you have yet to support that claim by doing anything but WRITINGZ LIKESS THISZ AND CALLINGSZ PEOPPLES TROLLS, so whos the one who writes idiotic attempts to defend themselves again?
[/quote]

Frankly? You're not worth the effort of doing anything but mock. You're so blatently stupid, and your logic is so blatently flawed and empty-headed, that you do all the work for me.

[/quote]Yup, what im reading is the typical "Call the person stupid because i can't defend myself" don't worry, I understand.
[/quote]

Of course that's what you read! You're desperate to make yourself look correct, and, in true troll logic fashion, if you don't like it, you ignore it.

Carry on. ^-^

[/quote]Thats what everyone reads, including people who choose destroy, it doesn't take a genious to see you have yet to supply any evidence to you claim, and when your asked to, you respond by saying "Your to stupid I don't need too", 
Carry on.

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[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

6- I'm desperately trying to justify my troll logic and metagaming RAEG at Bioware for not giving me the ending I DESERVE!!!!111ONE![/quote]Thats complete ignorance and stupidity, you obviously are to idiotic to engage in a conversation so i'll leave you to it.
[/quote]

Thanks for proving me right. name calling and foot stamping. Bravo.
[/quote]What point? I never argued about about BW not giving me the ending I wanted, didn't argue against metagaming, and your calling my logic stupid with no defense, the ball is it your yard.
[/quote]

And it will stay there. Because there is no non-metagaming, non whiny BIOWARE DIDN'T GIVE ME MY HAPPY ENDING reason for choosing reject. NONE.

Every single 'explination' is so backasswards and stupid it would only make sense if you can understand- wait for it- TROLL LOGIC.



[/quote]I listed various reasons why I choose refuse and you have yet to explained to me how my logic is "trolly".
[/quote]

I don't need to. Your 'reasons' and increasingly idiotic attmepts to defend them do all the work for me.

[/quote]And you have yet to support that claim by doing anything but WRITINGZ LIKESS THISZ AND CALLINGSZ PEOPPLES TROLLS, so whos the one who writes idiotic attempts to defend themselves again?
[/quote]

Frankly? You're not worth the effort of doing anything but mock. You're so blatently stupid, and your logic is so blatently flawed and empty-headed, that you do all the work for me.

[/quote]Yup, what im reading is the typical "Call the person stupid because i can't defend myself" don't worry, I understand.
[/quote]

Of course that's what you read! You're desperate to make yourself look correct, and, in true troll logic fashion, if you don't like it, you ignore it.

Carry on. ^-^

[/quote]Thats what everyone reads, including people who choose destroy, it doesn't take a genious to see you have yet to supply any evidence to you claim, and when your asked to, you respond by saying "Your to stupid I don't need too", 
Carry on.

[/quote]

Of coure, baby. Of course.

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cavs25 wrote...

What if you shot the tube and what the kid said was lie?
Instead of the reapers being destroyed all organics are magically teleported to a harvesting station....

And the same happens for control...


But the kid DIDN'T lie now did he? Shepard is just taking a chance. In all three games, that's what Shepard has been doing, taking a gamble. Who would have thought that Shepard can make it back after journeying into the galactic core?

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.


OP doesn't realize that ALL wars have casulties. Killing the Geth is unfortunate indeed, but sacrifice one to save the many is alright with me.

From my original post, Now there will always be casualties in war, but no one agreed to be sold
in order to win the war
, furthermore committing genocide just for the fact to
ensure victory in the war because you’re afraid of extinction compromises the
agreement the galaxy agreed to, win this war together


Win together or die together is your logic? Seriosuly? Like I said, as sentinece organics we are ALL interested in our own survival and will gratefully sacrifice one race (who are not even organics might I add) to prevent our own extinction. That's how the world works. Stop trying to prove otherwise.

I disagree with that, as an united galaxy we made an agreement to fight the reapers, not commit genocide in the process.

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Die free, huh?

I'd rather Live free. Shoot the tube.

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[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

[quote]Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

[quote]Fauxnormal wrote...

6- I'm desperately trying to justify my troll logic and metagaming RAEG at Bioware for not giving me the ending I DESERVE!!!!111ONE![/quote]Thats complete ignorance and stupidity, you obviously are to idiotic to engage in a conversation so i'll leave you to it.
[/quote]

Thanks for proving me right. name calling and foot stamping. Bravo.
[/quote]What point? I never argued about about BW not giving me the ending I wanted, didn't argue against metagaming, and your calling my logic stupid with no defense, the ball is it your yard.
[/quote]

And it will stay there. Because there is no non-metagaming, non whiny BIOWARE DIDN'T GIVE ME MY HAPPY ENDING reason for choosing reject. NONE.

Every single 'explination' is so backasswards and stupid it would only make sense if you can understand- wait for it- TROLL LOGIC.



[/quote]I listed various reasons why I choose refuse and you have yet to explained to me how my logic is "trolly".
[/quote]

I don't need to. Your 'reasons' and increasingly idiotic attmepts to defend them do all the work for me.

[/quote]And you have yet to support that claim by doing anything but WRITINGZ LIKESS THISZ AND CALLINGSZ PEOPPLES TROLLS, so whos the one who writes idiotic attempts to defend themselves again?
[/quote]

Frankly? You're not worth the effort of doing anything but mock. You're so blatently stupid, and your logic is so blatently flawed and empty-headed, that you do all the work for me.

[/quote]Yup, what im reading is the typical "Call the person stupid because i can't defend myself" don't worry, I understand.
[/quote]

Of course that's what you read! You're desperate to make yourself look correct, and, in true troll logic fashion, if you don't like it, you ignore it.

Carry on. ^-^

[/quote]Thats what everyone reads, including people who choose destroy, it doesn't take a genious to see you have yet to supply any evidence to you claim, and when your asked to, you respond by saying "Your to stupid I don't need too", 
Carry on.

[/quote]

Of coure, baby. Of course.

[/quote]
I'm gonna quote this because this thread is funny and pyramid quotes are awesome.

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cavs25 wrote...

What if you shot the tube and what the kid said was lie?
Instead of the reapers being destroyed all organics are magically teleported to a harvesting station....

And the same happens for control...


Then you're no worse off than if you refused to use it. 

Refuse and the Catalyst is lying everyone dies
Refuse and the Catalyst is telling the truth everyone dies
Use Crucible and Catalyst is lying everybody dies
Use Crucible and Catalyst is telling the truth, victory

One choice gives you a chance one doesn't.

Modifié par Aaleel, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:13 .


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SMichelle wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.



Death would be preferable to what the OP condemns all of those races to.  I'm sure many will instead be turned into a nice Reaper goo to help reap the next cycle.  But hey.  OP stood on principles - or trillions of dead - whatever. Image IPB

Everything in Mass Effect was a risk, Had Shepard died in any moment during ME the galaxy was surely doomed, but he still charged into battle. So how is it any different is Refusal, except Shepard loss...

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Die free or live hard.

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"Damn it, NO. I'm training you grunts to make the OTHER guy die for HIS country. The next one of you that says you want to die out of principle is going to be on my **** list for months!"

Refusal is defeatism for the sake of spiting the writers of the ending. 4th wall should not be broken.

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Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

krukow wrote...

Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.


OP doesn't realize that ALL wars have casulties. Killing the Geth is unfortunate indeed, but sacrifice one to save the many is alright with me.

From my original post, Now there will always be casualties in war, but no one agreed to be sold
in order to win the war
, furthermore committing genocide just for the fact to
ensure victory in the war because you’re afraid of extinction compromises the
agreement the galaxy agreed to, win this war together


Win together or die together is your logic? Seriosuly? Like I said, as sentinece organics we are ALL interested in our own survival and will gratefully sacrifice one race (who are not even organics might I add) to prevent our own extinction. That's how the world works. Stop trying to prove otherwise.

I disagree with that, as an united galaxy we made an agreement to fight the reapers, not commit genocide in the process.


Why fight united when in the end everybody dies anyway? All the races mentioned above are opted for extinction. That's your logic right there. Please stop trolling.

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Aaleel wrote...

cavs25 wrote...

What if you shot the tube and what the kid said was lie?
Instead of the reapers being destroyed all organics are magically teleported to a harvesting station....

And the same happens for control...


Then you're no worse off than if you refused to use it. 

Refuse and the Catalyst is lying everyone dies
Refuse and the Catalyst is telling the truth everyone dies
Use Crucible and Catalyst is lying everybody dies
Use Crucible and Catalyst is telling the truth, victory

One choice gives you a chance one doesn't.

I give you that, thats a good point. But that beign said, trusting your enemy seems crazy, you can argue that everything the Catalyst was telling was a lie, and you even had a better chance fighting.

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Okay seriously? Enough with the f*cking quote pyramids. Trim the damn quotes.

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Khajiit Jzargo

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DEATHSCOPE wrote...

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

DEATHSCOPE wrote...

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krukow wrote...

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Sweet, everyone else dies because you don't want to kill Joker's girlfriend.

Who still dies anyways.

Read the Thread.


I did, but fine.  If the themes of ME have been about overcoming all obstacles on your terms, then I assume you wanted Kaidan or Ashely to die on Virmire right?  Those were your terms?  BRILLIANT!

You let everyone die because you don't want to kill EDI.  Who dies anyways.  Good job.

Your comparing the death of one person and 1.5 billion geth, it doesn't make sense, and apperently you don't know the geth died.


The Geth only die if they're still alive.  And guess what, THEY DIE EITHER WAY!  Meanwhile, thanks to your "principles", the following also die:
All Quarians
All Turians
All Humans
All Salarians
All Asari
All remaining Batarians
All Drell
All Hanar
All Vorcha
All Krogan

Your Shepard is a coward who just sacrificed all of those listed so he can feel good about himself.
Good job.

Also, if you play as femshep, I apologize for using he/him.


OP doesn't realize that ALL wars have casulties. Killing the Geth is unfortunate indeed, but sacrifice one to save the many is alright with me.

From my original post, Now there will always be casualties in war, but no one agreed to be sold
in order to win the war
, furthermore committing genocide just for the fact to
ensure victory in the war because you’re afraid of extinction compromises the
agreement the galaxy agreed to, win this war together


Win together or die together is your logic? Seriosuly? Like I said, as sentinece organics we are ALL interested in our own survival and will gratefully sacrifice one race (who are not even organics might I add) to prevent our own extinction. That's how the world works. Stop trying to prove otherwise.

I disagree with that, as an united galaxy we made an agreement to fight the reapers, not commit genocide in the process.


Why fight united when in the end everybody dies anyway? All the races mentioned above are opted for extinction. That's your logic right there. Please stop trolling.

So we don't  win the war by commiting genocide, war crimes, etc? And don't call people trolls just because they dissagree with your opinion.

Modifié par Khajiit Jzargo, 03 juillet 2012 - 11:19 .


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Pretty much agree with you OP. We see an human child and Asari after the credits so who knows who else survived. I'm willing to bet Javik even though he's a soldier may have a general idea on how that stasis chamber work, Liara's Shadow broker skills, we probably can hide from the reapers this cycle, and Tali's knack of turning scrap metal into a Star Trek replicator who knows how many survivors they could be?

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So we can win the war without commiting genocide, war crimes, etc? And don't call people trolls just because they dissagree with your opinion.

If killing all the Reapers isn't a crime, I doubt controlling all of the Reapers in Control would be considered such either. And even if you kill the geth in Destroy, they'd all die anyway in Refusal. Going down fighting isn't any better than going down not.