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you are scraficing her for an easy solution.
How is it easy? I pick it because destroying the Reapers is the right thing to do, and because I do not believe that synthetics will wipe out organics.
Why do people care about EDI and the Geth so much?
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I didn't care much for EDI (she became a Commander Data rip-off in ME3), but I found the Geth to be an interesting take on the "AI uprising" story and would have chosen them over the Quarians if I had to. As far as why I cared about them? I found them more alien, innocent, sympathetic, and strange than any other species in Mass Effect.
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no you just wipe out synthetics instead proving the catalyst right that their cant be any real peace
I don't think that's the message behind Destroy. The Catalyst clearly tells you the cycle will continue and that Destroy is not a solution, so picking it is an eff you to him.
The problem is that BioWare picked precisely the wrong god damn arbitrary consequence to include in Destroy to try and balance its mood with the other endings.
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Destroy already has consequenses associated with it other than EDI and the Geth, please excuse the repost but....
-The endings should have consequenses that follow along with their underlying themes.-
Control's delemia is that by controlling the Reapers you would be:
A. Agreeing with the Illusive Man.
B. Keeping the Reapers exactly as they are just enslaving them under Shepard's rule.
C. The Control ending suggests that AI Shep would not be above using the new Galaxy wide police force to wipe out a species (like say the Krogan) should they step out of line, the whole "The needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few." line.
Synthesis, while obviously trying to be painted in the best light possible still has sacrifices associated with it. Shepard dying is the most obvious (s/he at least has some form of AI recreation with his/her memories in Control) but there are other issues. Issues like:
A. The elimination of free will in the biggest descision in the history of the Mass Effect universe. Whether or not the people living after synthesis are brainwashed to accept the fact is besides the point, in the act of picking this ending no other lifeform in the galaxy has any say so what-so-ever.
B. The ending suggests that immortality is viable for the galaxy now, but they can still reproduce. So you now have a society that can not die (naturally) and is constantly adding new members to that society, eventually there is going to be no more food (if they still need to eat, most likley considering they can still make babies) or they are going to run out of room and supplies in the Galaxy and will have to move to others like a swarm of locusts devouring all in their path. Such a senario would be possible in the other endings eventually in the far future, but synthesis puts that senario as the imediate future.
Destroy all ready has several consequences associated with it even before EDI and the Geth. Things such as:
A. You are essentially commiting genocide on the thousands of species comprising each individual Reaper. In Shepard's talk with the Catalyst it is revealed that the genetic goop the Reapers grind people into in order to make a new Reaper are somehow still alive, albeit under the Catalyst's control. This means that picking the destroy option (forgeting Shepard, EDI, and the Geth for a moment) is essentially killing more people than have been killed in all three Mass Effect games combined. The players unwilling to pick Destroy because of it commiting genocide on synthetics also have this to contend with.
B. This ending suggests that killing the Reapers will only postpone the inevitable conflict with synthetics, a conflict that will (according to the Catalyst) wipe out all organic life in the galaxy. So while the current generation will live in peace, future generations are doomed to be killed by their creations.
C. A sidenote to point B., the Catalyst not only heavily implies that killing the Reapers will result in machines killing all organics in the future, it also suggests that future generations will recreate the Reapers again as a means to solving the conflict. Basically, the bad guys will come back, if you belive the statments made by the head bad guy.
D. EDI and the Geth are killed. Now while this is the most obvious consequence for picking destroy there are several underlying themes associated with this penalty that make Destroy seem like the Reapers' collective middle finger to Shepard for killing them.
- For people who brought peace between the Quarians and the Geth, and for players who had talked with EDI, and Legion in Mass Effect 2 and 3 they are losing friends/allies to the cause. But they (the players) are also having people (or talking toasters to those that don't belive they are alive) that activley believed that peaceful co-existence between synthetics and organics was possible, people that had grown and developed an understanding of organic beliefs and values are killed. The very fact that EDI and the Geth were willing to lay down their lives (robot bodies) to stop the Reapers alongside the organic races of the galaxy proves that co-existence is possible without the need for a continuous cycle of harvesting and extinction, or a complete restructing of the galaxy's foundations. EDI and the Geth were the perfect example of how wrong the Reaper solution was, and they could, as developed, empethetic AIs, teach any new synthetics to value organic life, or at the very least come to organic aid if an AI went rouge.
So what does Destroy do? It kills the only fully developed synthetic life cabale of understanding and helping organics. With EDI and the Geth out of the way the Catalyst's logic becomes possible again, with no friendly/empethtic AIs around the liklehood of a synthetic vs. organic conflict is possible again. The Mass Effect codex states that AI are created using a blue box and that each one is unquie, every synthetic lifeform has to have a balanced development cycle in order to prevent the AI from going crazy or having warped view of the world around it. EDI and the Geth could help future synthetic life grow in a proper manner, but by killing them the Catalyst is ensuring that it's belief about conflict comes to pass.
Whew! Sorry for the wall-o-text, but I hope people can see that Destroy already has plenty of 'sacrifies' associated with it. Killing EDI and the Geth is just a tacted on penalty that should (IMO) be able to be avoided with a high enough EMS/War Assets.
To people saying that without killing EDI and the Geth Destroy would be the only choice picked, I say look at the underlying themes of each ending. If the message behind each ending is not enough to have diverse playthroughs without holding EDI and the Geth hostage, then the endings fail narrativly speaking.
-The endings should have consequenses that follow along with their underlying themes.-
Control's delemia is that by controlling the Reapers you would be:
A. Agreeing with the Illusive Man.
B. Keeping the Reapers exactly as they are just enslaving them under Shepard's rule.
C. The Control ending suggests that AI Shep would not be above using the new Galaxy wide police force to wipe out a species (like say the Krogan) should they step out of line, the whole "The needs of the many must outweigh the needs of the few." line.
Synthesis, while obviously trying to be painted in the best light possible still has sacrifices associated with it. Shepard dying is the most obvious (s/he at least has some form of AI recreation with his/her memories in Control) but there are other issues. Issues like:
A. The elimination of free will in the biggest descision in the history of the Mass Effect universe. Whether or not the people living after synthesis are brainwashed to accept the fact is besides the point, in the act of picking this ending no other lifeform in the galaxy has any say so what-so-ever.
B. The ending suggests that immortality is viable for the galaxy now, but they can still reproduce. So you now have a society that can not die (naturally) and is constantly adding new members to that society, eventually there is going to be no more food (if they still need to eat, most likley considering they can still make babies) or they are going to run out of room and supplies in the Galaxy and will have to move to others like a swarm of locusts devouring all in their path. Such a senario would be possible in the other endings eventually in the far future, but synthesis puts that senario as the imediate future.
Destroy all ready has several consequences associated with it even before EDI and the Geth. Things such as:
A. You are essentially commiting genocide on the thousands of species comprising each individual Reaper. In Shepard's talk with the Catalyst it is revealed that the genetic goop the Reapers grind people into in order to make a new Reaper are somehow still alive, albeit under the Catalyst's control. This means that picking the destroy option (forgeting Shepard, EDI, and the Geth for a moment) is essentially killing more people than have been killed in all three Mass Effect games combined. The players unwilling to pick Destroy because of it commiting genocide on synthetics also have this to contend with.
B. This ending suggests that killing the Reapers will only postpone the inevitable conflict with synthetics, a conflict that will (according to the Catalyst) wipe out all organic life in the galaxy. So while the current generation will live in peace, future generations are doomed to be killed by their creations.
C. A sidenote to point B., the Catalyst not only heavily implies that killing the Reapers will result in machines killing all organics in the future, it also suggests that future generations will recreate the Reapers again as a means to solving the conflict. Basically, the bad guys will come back, if you belive the statments made by the head bad guy.
D. EDI and the Geth are killed. Now while this is the most obvious consequence for picking destroy there are several underlying themes associated with this penalty that make Destroy seem like the Reapers' collective middle finger to Shepard for killing them.
- For people who brought peace between the Quarians and the Geth, and for players who had talked with EDI, and Legion in Mass Effect 2 and 3 they are losing friends/allies to the cause. But they (the players) are also having people (or talking toasters to those that don't belive they are alive) that activley believed that peaceful co-existence between synthetics and organics was possible, people that had grown and developed an understanding of organic beliefs and values are killed. The very fact that EDI and the Geth were willing to lay down their lives (robot bodies) to stop the Reapers alongside the organic races of the galaxy proves that co-existence is possible without the need for a continuous cycle of harvesting and extinction, or a complete restructing of the galaxy's foundations. EDI and the Geth were the perfect example of how wrong the Reaper solution was, and they could, as developed, empethetic AIs, teach any new synthetics to value organic life, or at the very least come to organic aid if an AI went rouge.
So what does Destroy do? It kills the only fully developed synthetic life cabale of understanding and helping organics. With EDI and the Geth out of the way the Catalyst's logic becomes possible again, with no friendly/empethtic AIs around the liklehood of a synthetic vs. organic conflict is possible again. The Mass Effect codex states that AI are created using a blue box and that each one is unquie, every synthetic lifeform has to have a balanced development cycle in order to prevent the AI from going crazy or having warped view of the world around it. EDI and the Geth could help future synthetic life grow in a proper manner, but by killing them the Catalyst is ensuring that it's belief about conflict comes to pass.
Whew! Sorry for the wall-o-text, but I hope people can see that Destroy already has plenty of 'sacrifies' associated with it. Killing EDI and the Geth is just a tacted on penalty that should (IMO) be able to be avoided with a high enough EMS/War Assets.
To people saying that without killing EDI and the Geth Destroy would be the only choice picked, I say look at the underlying themes of each ending. If the message behind each ending is not enough to have diverse playthroughs without holding EDI and the Geth hostage, then the endings fail narrativly speaking.
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He also says synthetics will wipe out organic life in the galaxy, despite the fact such a conclusion can only be reached once synthetics wipe out all life. They clearly have never done so seeing as there is life (quite widespread life) throughout the galaxy. So his whole theory is based on an assumption. Assumption being the mother of all screw ups.MerchantGOL
no you just wipe out synthetics instead proving the catalyst right that their cant be any real peace
Just because the Catalyst says it, doesn't mean its true. He's already hiding behind the image of small child to make me feel less threatened.
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its not frigging arbirtrary, the wave that destorys all the bad robots detroys all the good, that is a simple as you can get.CronoDragoon wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
no you just wipe out synthetics instead proving the catalyst right that their cant be any real peace
I don't think that's the message behind Destroy. The Catalyst clearly tells you the cycle will continue and that Destroy is not a solution, so picking it is an eff you to him.
The problem is that BioWare picked precisely the wrong god damn arbitrary consequence to include in Destroy to try and balance its mood with the other endings.
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Vortex13 wrote...
B. This ending suggests that killing the Reapers will only postpone the inevitable conflict with synthetics, a conflict that will (according to the Catalyst) wipe out all organic life in the galaxy. So while the current generation will live in peace, future generations are doomed to be killed by their creations.
aking.
Completely agree. Each ending is a philosophical choice that has potential future dangers. In Destroy you are chancing that the Catalyst will be wrong this time, which is a HUGE chance since now organics are completely vulnerable.
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MerchantGOL wrote...
Except that thegeth at that point are indivudals, you cant Rebuild a soul.XXIceColdXX wrote...
Good thread. EDI and the Geth are a small sacrifice compared to others who have already given their life for the war.
The Virmire sacrifice, Mordin and Thane all died as heroes for the end goal of defeating the reapers.
Machines or AI's dont even come close to that level of sacrifice thats already been made those guys. Sure EDI wont be back but the Geth can always be rebuilt.
Agree with the OP, sacrificing EDI and the Geth are a small price to pay to destroy the Reapers once and for all.
Yeah they are Individuals but to me, no Geth have a soul. I dont buy into that. To me the sacrifice of any organic life is far more important.
Geth can be rebuilt to have the same level of individuality in the future. They are just hardware and software that is upgraded with Reaper code.
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it hasnt happend yet because of the reapers.NUM13ER wrote...
He also says synthetics will wipe out organic life in the galaxy, despite the fact such a conclusion can only be reached once synthetics wipe out all life. They clearly have never done so seeing as there is life (quite widespread life) throughout the galaxy. So his whole theory is based on an assumption. Assumption being the mother of all screw ups.MerchantGOL
no you just wipe out synthetics instead proving the catalyst right that their cant be any real peace
Just because the Catalyst says it, doesn't mean its true. He's already hiding behind the image of small child to make me feel less threatened.
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MerchantGOL wrote...
its not frigging arbirtrary, the wave that destorys all the bad robots detroys all the good, that is a simple as you can get.
Why does Destroy work like that? Because "that's just how it works?" That's the definition of arbitrary.
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what repaer code you just destoryed it, you cant rebuild the geth you could put vi's in their bodies but the even post reapers what they were was an accident you cant just recreate themXXIceColdXX wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except that thegeth at that point are indivudals, you cant Rebuild a soul.XXIceColdXX wrote...
Good thread. EDI and the Geth are a small sacrifice compared to others who have already given their life for the war.
The Virmire sacrifice, Mordin and Thane all died as heroes for the end goal of defeating the reapers.
Machines or AI's dont even come close to that level of sacrifice thats already been made those guys. Sure EDI wont be back but the Geth can always be rebuilt.
Agree with the OP, sacrificing EDI and the Geth are a small price to pay to destroy the Reapers once and for all.
Yeah they are Individuals but to me, no robot has a soul. I dont buy into that. To me the sacrifice of any organic life is far more important.
Geth can be rebuilt to have the same level of individuality in the future. They are just hardware and software that is upgraded with Reaper code.
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no arbitrary would be if it magicaly did difientiate from the other syntheticsCronoDragoon wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
its not frigging arbirtrary, the wave that destorys all the bad robots detroys all the good, that is a simple as you can get.
Why does Destroy work like that? Because "that's just how it works?" That's the definition of arbitrary.
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So it claims. The only synthetics I've noticed wiping out trillions are the Catalysts lapdogs. Such is its wisdom. Prevent us being murdered by machines by doing it before they get a chance.it hasnt happend yet because of the reapers.
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that is not the same scale as Shepards direct scrafice that needed some thign as equally personal.CronoDragoon wrote...
Vortex13 wrote...
B. This ending suggests that killing the Reapers will only postpone the inevitable conflict with synthetics, a conflict that will (according to the Catalyst) wipe out all organic life in the galaxy. So while the current generation will live in peace, future generations are doomed to be killed by their creations.
aking.
Completely agree. Each ending is a philosophical choice that has potential future dangers. In Destroy you are chancing that the Catalyst will be wrong this time, which is a HUGE chance since now organics are completely vulnerable.
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The geth have NEVER been the aggressors, until Nazara corrupted them. Way to prove yourselves right, Catalyst. If synthetics will always rise up against organics because REAPERS REPROGRAM THEM TO DO THAT, well, your little paradigm holds just a bit of water, I suppose.
That the geth weren't the agressors in the past doesn't mean they will never be in the future. According to the Catalyst, the conflict will eventually happen no matter what, it's rooted in the difference between organics and synthetics. One peaceful resolution brokered by Shepard doesn't mean ANYTHING in a greater scheme of things.
I always thought it's ironic that Nazara subjugated the geth of all races for his mission. Maybe because Nazara was the product of harvesting another synthetic civilisation himself, and thus found it easier to communicate with synthetics?
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yeah cause the geth, edi on luna and the gambling ai didnt kill a **** load of peopleNUM13ER wrote...
So it claims. The only synthetics I've noticed wiping out trillions are the Catalysts lapdogs. Such is their wisdom to avoid us being murdered by machines, by doing it before they get a chance.it hasnt happend yet because of the reapers.
the synthetics in javks cycle ether or the ones that prompted the catalysts creation
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MerchantGOL wrote...
no arbitrary would be if it magicaly did difientiate from the other syntheticsCronoDragoon wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
its not frigging arbirtrary, the wave that destorys all the bad robots detroys all the good, that is a simple as you can get.
Why does Destroy work like that? Because "that's just how it works?" That's the definition of arbitrary.
Oh, you mean like Control?
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MerchantGOL wrote...
what repaer code you just destoryed it, you cant rebuild the geth you could put vi's in their bodies but the even post reapers what they were was an accident you cant just recreate themXXIceColdXX wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except that thegeth at that point are indivudals, you cant Rebuild a soul.XXIceColdXX wrote...
Good thread. EDI and the Geth are a small sacrifice compared to others who have already given their life for the war.
The Virmire sacrifice, Mordin and Thane all died as heroes for the end goal of defeating the reapers.
Machines or AI's dont even come close to that level of sacrifice thats already been made those guys. Sure EDI wont be back but the Geth can always be rebuilt.
Agree with the OP, sacrificing EDI and the Geth are a small price to pay to destroy the Reapers once and for all.
Yeah they are Individuals but to me, no robot has a soul. I dont buy into that. To me the sacrifice of any organic life is far more important.
Geth can be rebuilt to have the same level of individuality in the future. They are just hardware and software that is upgraded with Reaper code.
Still comes back to the fact that I dont belive them to have a soul. I dont care if there not identical in the future. If we want to build another race thats similar to Geth, thats fine with me.
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you mean the signal that even in the vanillia game was depected as just that a Signal? now gee why would a signal be diffrent then a wave of destruction and a dna changing beamCronoDragoon wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
no arbitrary would be if it magicaly did difientiate from the other syntheticsCronoDragoon wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
its not frigging arbirtrary, the wave that destorys all the bad robots detroys all the good, that is a simple as you can get.
Why does Destroy work like that? Because "that's just how it works?" That's the definition of arbitrary.
Oh, you mean like Control?
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NUM13ER wrote...
He also says synthetics will wipe out organic life in the galaxy, despite the fact such a conclusion can only be reached once synthetics wipe out all life. They clearly have never done so seeing as there is life (quite widespread life) throughout the galaxy. So his whole theory is based on an assumption. Assumption being the mother of all screw ups.
No, not assumption. He clearly explains that in the EC, he's been monitoring relations between organics and synthetics for a long time even before the Reaper cycles.
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MerchantGOL wrote...
you mean the signal that even in the vanillia game was depected as just that a Signal? now gee why would a signal be diffrent then a wave of destruction and a dena changing beamCronoDragoon wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
no arbitrary would be if it magicaly did difientiate from the other syntheticsCronoDragoon wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
its not frigging arbirtrary, the wave that destorys all the bad robots detroys all the good, that is a simple as you can get.
Why does Destroy work like that? Because "that's just how it works?" That's the definition of arbitrary.
Oh, you mean like Control?
So when the Crucible sends out a "control" signal it can target only Reapers. When it sends out a "destroy" signal it has to be all synthetics. Got it. And yes, Destroy is a signal just like Control. The Reapers don't blow up, they just keel over.
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Rhiens VI wrote...
NUM13ER wrote...
He also says synthetics will wipe out organic life in the galaxy, despite the fact such a conclusion can only be reached once synthetics wipe out all life. They clearly have never done so seeing as there is life (quite widespread life) throughout the galaxy. So his whole theory is based on an assumption. Assumption being the mother of all screw ups.
No, not assumption. He clearly explains that in the EC, he's been monitoring relations between organics and synthetics for a long time even before the Reaper cycles.
How long a time could it be, though? He turned his creators into the first Reaper.
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so tali was jsut what humoring legion?XXIceColdXX wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
what repaer code you just destoryed it, you cant rebuild the geth you could put vi's in their bodies but the even post reapers what they were was an accident you cant just recreate themXXIceColdXX wrote...
MerchantGOL wrote...
Except that thegeth at that point are indivudals, you cant Rebuild a soul.XXIceColdXX wrote...
Good thread. EDI and the Geth are a small sacrifice compared to others who have already given their life for the war.
The Virmire sacrifice, Mordin and Thane all died as heroes for the end goal of defeating the reapers.
Machines or AI's dont even come close to that level of sacrifice thats already been made those guys. Sure EDI wont be back but the Geth can always be rebuilt.
Agree with the OP, sacrificing EDI and the Geth are a small price to pay to destroy the Reapers once and for all.
Yeah they are Individuals but to me, no robot has a soul. I dont buy into that. To me the sacrifice of any organic life is far more important.
Geth can be rebuilt to have the same level of individuality in the future. They are just hardware and software that is upgraded with Reaper code.
Still comes back to the fact that I dont belive them to have a soul. I dont care if there not identical in the future. If we want to build another race thats similar to Geth, thats fine with me.
even if you don't think they have souls, they were alive, sentient and individuals
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So it claims. The only synthetics I've noticed wiping out trillions are the Catalysts lapdogs.
You conveniently forgot about hostile synthetics in Javik's cycle, and rogue VIs in ours.
EDIT: MerchantGOL already got it covered.
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I agree that destroying one race is better than all dying, this it what makes the destroy endign better than refusal, it's however lesser than both control and synthesis imo.
Control and synthesis saves all, everyone, with benefits.
Destory brings a lot of destruction and genocide but save most of the galaxy.
Refusal kills everyone therefor the lesser of all options.
Your job is to save as many as possible.
Control has the upside of not changing anyone, synthesis has the upside of givign everyone acces to all the history, knowledge, science technology and culture, entertainment of thousands of civilizations, millions of years of development, some of it redundant but a lot of it very valuable. Also destroying them make em all become forgotten and lost forever.
How is synthesis bad if it doesn't change anyones dreams or hopes but empowers them to reach their goals? Or by allowing them to see new possibilites to achive their dreams.
They are said to be themselves but with new possibilites for a brighter future.
Control restores the galaxy to it's pre reaper invasion state except for the dead people. People are allowed to decide their own future. To evolve on their own terms, even if this road to synthesis might take a hundred thousand years, it will be on the galaxy own terms. Slowly advancing, tripping every now and then but eventualy finding their own way.
Control and synthesis saves all, everyone, with benefits.
Destory brings a lot of destruction and genocide but save most of the galaxy.
Refusal kills everyone therefor the lesser of all options.
Your job is to save as many as possible.
Control has the upside of not changing anyone, synthesis has the upside of givign everyone acces to all the history, knowledge, science technology and culture, entertainment of thousands of civilizations, millions of years of development, some of it redundant but a lot of it very valuable. Also destroying them make em all become forgotten and lost forever.
How is synthesis bad if it doesn't change anyones dreams or hopes but empowers them to reach their goals? Or by allowing them to see new possibilites to achive their dreams.
They are said to be themselves but with new possibilites for a brighter future.
Control restores the galaxy to it's pre reaper invasion state except for the dead people. People are allowed to decide their own future. To evolve on their own terms, even if this road to synthesis might take a hundred thousand years, it will be on the galaxy own terms. Slowly advancing, tripping every now and then but eventualy finding their own way.
