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[Probe Away]

Cool concept - I would try it out.

A couple of suggestions:

- judging by past DLC characters I can't see them adding a new character without at least one recycled power, such as throw or stasis. Few people seem to like sabotage so maybe enthrallment would make way. Not that it's a bad idea.

- sheild strength and melee damage are already dealt with in fitness, so you are probably better off not overlapping them with the unique passive. Maybe add some weapon damage? If you want to stay away from standard upgrades you could go for a nanite bonus to weapons, such as a reduced reload time or more shots per magazine.

- An increase in weapon damage could also be an effect of the nanites in the Deconstruction power.

Good luck!

[StarStruck010]

CmdrSlander wrote...

StarStruck010 wrote...

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Well, in terms of balance, her powers that are highly damaging recharge fairly slowly. Her passive (Repulsion Matrix) power grant no extra damage resistance (it just redirects threats) and she cannot, on her own, create biotic combos or tech explosions. She is less mobile compared to the human Sentinels (no roll ability, Dashing takes shield power) and weaker than all the other alien races (about on par with the humans, but more shield strength). 

Since you offered to open the door to some balance criticism, I'm not sure how 3 and 3.5 base cooldowns count as "fairly slowly" unless those aren't base and are assuming 200% recharge. Assuming those are the base cooldowns, you're looking at 1.06s, 3.809s, and 0.82s cooldowns, and so the only one that isn't immediately spammable is her defensive skill (to get ~3 and ~1.5 cooldown @ 200% you need 10s and 5s base cooldowns, but 1.5s cooldown on dominate will never fly as sabotage has a 3.89 max cooldown but can be cut to 3s with cloak)

While she can't setup combos, with a 1s CD dominate, and 1s detonator she immediately becomes one of the best detonators in the game and has a disposable drone to use. Furthermore, the defensive power makes her prettymuch immune to grenades, and some other dangerous attacks (corrupted warp comes to mind). 

Also, I find the lowered mobility questionable as I believe Biotic Dash gives invulnerability frames, but I'll have to test that later.

Like I originally said, I don't know how this could be balanced, but I like it a lot.

[CmdrSlander]

Probe Away wrote...

Cool concept - I would try it out.

A couple of suggestions:

- judging by past DLC characters I can't see them adding a new character without at least one recycled power, such as throw or stasis. Few people seem to like sabotage so maybe enthrallment would make way. Not that it's a bad idea.

- sheild strength and melee damage are already dealt with in fitness, so you are probably better off not overlapping them with the unique passive. Maybe add some weapon damage? If you want to stay away from standard upgrades you could go for a nanite bonus to weapons, such as a reduced reload time or more shots per magazine.

- An increase in weapon damage could also be an effect of the nanites in the Deconstruction power.

Good luck!

I agree with the Fitness/Passive power comment and may change it. However, for the other two powers, I really think both are key to shaping the character/class. Decon. because it cements the connection between biotic and tech powers (it is literally a fusion of both) and Enthrallment because I envisioned the character a more sinister flavor of the Asari based on the namesake of their home planet (The Women of Thessalay, a Roman myth). The Thessalayans were witches who could call up bewitch living beings and bring down the moon (the former being relevant to the Enthrallment power). 

Modifié par CmdrSlander, 04 juillet 2012 - 05:23 .

[CmdrSlander]

StarStruck010 wrote...

CmdrSlander wrote...

StarStruck010 wrote...

Snip...

Well, in terms of balance, her powers that are highly damaging recharge fairly slowly. Her passive (Repulsion Matrix) power grant no extra damage resistance (it just redirects threats) and she cannot, on her own, create biotic combos or tech explosions. She is less mobile compared to the human Sentinels (no roll ability, Dashing takes shield power) and weaker than all the other alien races (about on par with the humans, but more shield strength). 

Since you offered to open the door to some balance criticism, I'm not sure how 3 and 3.5 base cooldowns count as "fairly slowly" unless those aren't base and are assuming 200% recharge. Assuming those are the base cooldowns, you're looking at 1.06s, 3.809s, and 0.82s cooldowns, and so the only one that isn't immediately spammable is her defensive skill (to get ~3 and ~1.5 cooldown @ 200% you need 10s and 5s base cooldowns, but 1.5s cooldown on dominate will never fly as sabotage has a 3.89 max cooldown but can be cut to 3s with cloak)

While she can't setup combos, with a 1s CD dominate, and 1s detonator she immediately becomes one of the best detonators in the game and has a disposable drone to use. Furthermore, the defensive power makes her prettymuch immune to grenades, and some other dangerous attacks (corrupted warp comes to mind). 

Also, I find the lowered mobility questionable as I believe Biotic Dash gives invulnerability frames, but I'll have to test that later.

Like I originally said, I don't know how this could be balanced, but I like it a lot.

You know, what lets assume it is 200% recharge because when I was looking at the stats to steal for my powers it was on a character with only an Avenger IV (giving her 197% cooldown). 

Modifié par CmdrSlander, 04 juillet 2012 - 05:22 .

[Salarian Assassin87]

Very nice I love asari I play as them all the time, would love to see a sentinel! Great work man

[Mr Arg]

This is so well done! Great job! I would roll with this class, for there are too few good sentinels...

[CmdrSlander]

RE: Balance

Let me fire up the BioWare patented technobabble machine...

Due to the nanomachines in her body requiring power that would normally be directed to shields as well as the large and exhausting amount of power drawn by biotic/nanite attacks, the Asari Sentinel's shield and health recharge times are handicapped by 45% (slower)

[Elite Argonian]

Sounds awesome, and I like the idea of either all weapons 45% lighter, or Assault Rifles at 75%.

[d4rk fallen]

Nice job
Think that might be the sent I would really like using.

[CmdrSlander]

Elite Argonian wrote...

Sounds awesome, and I like the idea of either all weapons 45% lighter, or Assault Rifles at 75%.

Yah, I think it forces an interesting choice. Do I make all the weapons somewhat lighter or some of them very light?

[CmdrSlander]

Since enthrallment has been noted as a power people might not enjoy, what do you all think of it?

[Probe Away]

CmdrSlander wrote...

Probe Away wrote...

Cool concept - I would try it out.

A couple of suggestions:

- judging by past DLC characters I can't see them adding a new character without at least one recycled power, such as throw or stasis. Few people seem to like sabotage so maybe enthrallment would make way. Not that it's a bad idea.

- sheild strength and melee damage are already dealt with in fitness, so you are probably better off not overlapping them with the unique passive. Maybe add some weapon damage? If you want to stay away from standard upgrades you could go for a nanite bonus to weapons, such as a reduced reload time or more shots per magazine.

- An increase in weapon damage could also be an effect of the nanites in the Deconstruction power.

Good luck!

I agree with the Fitness/Passive power comment and may change it. However, for the other two powers, I really think both are key to shaping the character/class. Decon. because it cements the connection between biotic and tech powers (it is literally a fusion of both) and Enthrallment because I envisioned the character a more sinister flavor of the Asari based on the namesake of their home planet (The Women of Thessalay, a Roman myth). The Thessalayans were witches who could call up bewitch living beings and bring down the moon (the former being relevant to the Enthrallment power). 

I wasn't suggesting that you remove either power (particularly not Deconstruct).  I'm just saying that if you're serious about Bioware using the idea, you need to be prepared for the fact that they have never introduced a new character with 3/3 unique powers.  They might make an exception for something cool like this, but I doubt it.

Also - I never made the connection between Thessalay and Thessia before, even tho I'm a closet mythology fan.  Seems like I should have

[CmdrSlander]

"I never made the connection between Thessalay and Thessia before, even tho I'm a closet mythology fan. Seems like I should have"

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to revoke your nerd license...

[CmdrSlander]

"I wasn't suggesting that you remove either power (particularly not Deconstruct). I'm just saying that if you're serious about Bioware using the idea, you need to be prepared for the fact that they have never introduced a new character with 3/3 unique powers. They might make an exception for something cool like this, but I doubt it."

Well, they can recycle Sabotage for Enthrallment fairly easily (just change which classes of enemies it effects and change the names of the levels).

That being said, I have no illusions about BioWare ever picking this up, I love game design and it is my chosen career (though not my current job) so sharing this with you guys is basically a way of judging whether or not I am any good at it.

[CmdrSlander]

Probe Away wrote...

CmdrSlander wrote...

Probe Away wrote...

Cool concept - I would try it out.

A couple of suggestions:

- judging by past DLC characters I can't see them adding a new character without at least one recycled power, such as throw or stasis. Few people seem to like sabotage so maybe enthrallment would make way. Not that it's a bad idea.

- sheild strength and melee damage are already dealt with in fitness, so you are probably better off not overlapping them with the unique passive. Maybe add some weapon damage? If you want to stay away from standard upgrades you could go for a nanite bonus to weapons, such as a reduced reload time or more shots per magazine.

- An increase in weapon damage could also be an effect of the nanites in the Deconstruction power.

Good luck!

I agree with the Fitness/Passive power comment and may change it. However, for the other two powers, I really think both are key to shaping the character/class. Decon. because it cements the connection between biotic and tech powers (it is literally a fusion of both) and Enthrallment because I envisioned the character a more sinister flavor of the Asari based on the namesake of their home planet (The Women of Thessalay, a Roman myth). The Thessalayans were witches who could call up bewitch living beings and bring down the moon (the former being relevant to the Enthrallment power). 

I wasn't suggesting that you remove either power (particularly not Deconstruct).  I'm just saying that if you're serious about Bioware using the idea, you need to be prepared for the fact that they have never introduced a new character with 3/3 unique powers.  They might make an exception for something cool like this, but I doubt it.

Also - I never made the connection between Thessalay and Thessia before, even tho I'm a closet mythology fan.  Seems like I should have

Do you like Deconstruction more than the others for any reason? I'd like to know what you like about it. 

Modifié par CmdrSlander, 04 juillet 2012 - 06:03 .

[Rib0flavin]

This is awesome. If I worked for Bioware I would hire this man!

[CmdrSlander]

Rib0flavin wrote...

This is awesome. If I worked for Bioware I would hire this man!

Thank you.

If only you worked for BioWare...

[TMB903]

Very cool stuff there....I would like to see the Dominate ability in ME3 since we do have Sabotage

[corporal doody]

i'd play it!

[CmdrSlander]

TMB903 wrote...

Very cool stuff there....I would like to see the Dominate ability in ME3 since we do have Sabotage

Shouldn't be too hard to implement. 

[RenegadeSpectre]

Nice one, sir!

[staindgrey]

I've been wanting an asari sentinel since the demo's release. That said, your idea and mine, OP, differ greatly.

[StarStruck010]

Yeah, if you gave her long base cooldowns (10-15s) then they would be hard capped in the 3-5s range, and I could see that working. Alternatively, you could give her 'armor' a -x% recharge so that could balance out shorter cooldowns (but that does allow 6/0/6/6/6 builds to have fast cooldowns).

[CmdrSlander]

StarStruck010 wrote...

Yeah, if you gave her long base cooldowns (10-15s) then they would be hard capped in the 3-5s range, and I could see that working. Alternatively, you could give her 'armor' a -x% recharge so that could balance out shorter cooldowns (but that does allow 6/0/6/6/6 builds to have fast cooldowns).

I like fast cooldowns! Most of my MP characters have over +180% cooldown bonuses and run light weapons. My Human Adept has around 1.5 second cooldowns on everything... 

[CmdrSlander]

Trikx_AD wrote...

Nice one, sir!

Thanks