OblivionDawn wrote...
Makrys wrote...
Assuming one of the three options is actually a solution...
The whole concept of what choice to choose at the end depends entirely on the fact of whether you trust the starbrat or not.
I do not.
Why not? He says what the Crucible does, and you see it happen after you pick your option. Why not trust him?
Important part bolded. YOU HAVE NO CONTEXT FOR THE CHOICE UNTIL YOU'VE MADE IT. The kid is not a trustworthy source, and he is the ONLY one telling you what the choices will do.
I quote Sovereign: "By using our technology, you evolve as we desire."
And the presence of Destroy immediately sets my bull**** radar pinging. The kid tells you flat-out that if you destroy him then the thing he was created to prevent WILL HAPPEN. Eitrher he is lying, or he is presenting unprompted an option that invalidates his entire existence and fails his entire purpose. NOBODY DOES THAT WITHOUT AN ANGLE. Without a massive gain from the maneuver. Nobody does that unless they win by dying....or by tricking the hero into trying to kill them. Some examples:
Claude Florentine vs. Adam Randall at the Soulstone in the game Realms Of The Haunting. Florentine's been an absolute bastard to Randall the whole game - he killed Adam's dad and tortures his soul, he unleashed a pet demon on Adam that;s been doing such WONDERFUL things to Adam the whole way through, he even planted one of his acolytes as Adam's companion for the journey, and the betrayal HURT. And now he stands before Adam, unarmed, taunting him, offering Adam the chance to use the infinity+1 sword of the game to kill him. But if Adam does, Florentine WINS. He wears the seventh seal of Armageddon, and if Adam takes a swing or a stab, all Florentine has to do is move so it'll hit the seal. The sword is the only thing that can break the seal...and the second the seal breaks, Armageddon begins, tilted in evil's favor. Which means Florentine wins.
Joker vs. Batman, throughout DC canon. The Joker's nuts, given. But he's also very, vers smart. Ever notice how if someone's in a position and mood to possibly kill the Joker, he flips out, in one notable case actually BEGGING for his life? Unless it's Batman that he's got so blind-raged....then, he laughs. he taunts. He dares Bats to do it every chance he gets. Why? Because if the Joker kills Bats, the Joker wins. But he ALSO wins if Bats kills HIM - because he's made him throw away that moral code that is the definition of Batman. he's proven his premise - anyone can be the Joker. All it takes is one really ****ty day.
Return Of The Jedi: do I even nee....yeah, I do. "Strike me down, young Skywalker...I am unarmed". Palpatine has an ace up his sleeve - if Luke tries, Vader defends his master. If Luke loses, he was not fit to apprentice. If Luke wins...he just killed his dad, thus accepting the Sith premise. And if Luke actually tries to kill Palpatine after icing Vader, say hi to Force Lighting. Palpatine only lost because Luke didn't kill Vader...and Palpatine miscalculated how far to the dark Vader was, how willing to sacrifice himself to save his son he was.
Star Wars: "Strike me down, and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine". Obi Wan could have disengaged from Vader. All that metal probably makes Vader not move so fast, y'know? Yeah, Ben's old, but he's also very fit physically. But he has an ulterior motive. One, it gives Luke a driving motivation - he has to learn how to defeat Vader to avenge Ben. That means finding Yoda...and being properly instructed, including the releasing of vengeance, something Ben couldn't teach him. It also means he doesn't have to admit the lie he told Luke...well, at least till the Force shoves his ghost out to face the music.
Linoge in Steven King's "Storm Of The Century". His first action is to bludgeon-murder an old woman to death. His second is to sit down and wait for the cops to get there, passively allow them to convey him to jail, and spend half the miniseries just sitting there silently, while using some nifty mind-tricks to influence people to kill each other. Why? because it foments the atmosphere of broken will and terror that makes it easiest for people to bow to his ultimatum: "Give me what I want and I'll go away. Refuse, and I kill you all." The story markedly makes the point that this is something he's done before - he's the reason the Roanoke colony vanished. So why don't they just shoot him through the bars of the cell? He clearly can't prevent it....unless he can, and is thus totally unafraid of the option.
Evil does not automatically equal stupid. So when evil does something that looks monumentally stupid, the wise man looks a second time....and weighs.
And note: I don't agree that Reject is "the one true ending" - to me, the data indicates ALL endings are loss. Either we bow to the Reaper's will and follow the course of evolution they are willing to permit us, or we die, and the next cycle bows to the Reaper's will and follows the course of evolution the Reapers are willing to permit them.
We can walk to the guillotine at the end of the catwalk, or we can dive off and splatter on the floor so the NEXT sucker in line can walk to the guillotine. The only way to win is to not have played the games.
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