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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Black widow has become a novelty weapon even at higher levels with the 2 most resent changes, good job!


Black Widow is an exceptional gun on all difficulties. There was a time when it was quite possibly the BEST gun in the game. I approve.

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ryoldschool wrote...

I play xbox and pre-ordered the collector edition of ME3.   Part of that deal was to get the AT-12 shotgun for single player.  They could not make it work on single player, so to make nice they gave us seven special packs for multiplayer - each pack had a collector assault rifle upgrade.    So its been at 7 since then.   I am glad that they gave it a buff because it was worthless ( why use that when the revenant is better ).   Anyway they might have helped a few of us with that buff.   I really hope all the assault rifles get a buff.


Wow, lucky. I preordered the CE and got the Argus and Valkyrie instead. Never used them.

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Wow... i guess we go back to farming Geth behind a counter on FBW (because thats the only damn way to beat them now! >.<)

As for Cerberus and Reapers... forget that.

And also - what is the point in making changes to the Collector Rifle when once you have it you can't level it up? Unless of course you bought every single overpriced Razer gaming peripheral going spending over £500 to do it? THIS needs to be addressed. How about you allow it to be a Rare unlock weapon once the user has unlocked it by buying one Razer peripheral?

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DarkerCompanion wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Black widow has become a novelty weapon even at higher levels with the 2 most resent changes, good job!


Black Widow is an exceptional gun on all difficulties. There was a time when it was quite possibly the BEST gun in the game. I approve.


Clearly you haven't tried it after these most recent balance changes, you need to headshot grunts with it for it to be effective now. Which makes it pretty pointless, why would I then take it over a powerful shotgun or even paladin, which one shots in the head too.

Why are you in here playing dev with 10 posts on every page anyway.

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ryoldschool wrote...

DarkerCompanion wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

I will have to play some cerberus matches to see if I can tell if the cerberus buff makes any difference. But I have the collector assault rifle at 7


. . . what?

How much money? How much did you spend for that?


I play xbox and pre-ordered the collector edition of ME3.   Part of that deal was to get the AT-12 shotgun for single player.  They could not make it work on single player, so to make nice they gave us seven special packs for multiplayer - each pack had a collector assault rifle upgrade.    So its been at 7 since then.   I am glad that they gave it a buff because it was worthless ( why use that when the revenant is better ).   Anyway they might have helped a few of us with that buff.   I really hope all the assault rifles get a buff.


Really? :blink:

I pre-ordered the CE as well, and I'm also on xbox. Why did I not receive these mystical upgrades? Did you have to sign up somewhere to get them? I pre-ordered from Gamestop, so maybe that was why? :huh:

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Bekkael wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

DarkerCompanion wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

I will have to play some cerberus matches to see if I can tell if the cerberus buff makes any difference. But I have the collector assault rifle at 7


. . . what?

How much money? How much did you spend for that?


I play xbox and pre-ordered the collector edition of ME3.   Part of that deal was to get the AT-12 shotgun for single player.  They could not make it work on single player, so to make nice they gave us seven special packs for multiplayer - each pack had a collector assault rifle upgrade.    So its been at 7 since then.   I am glad that they gave it a buff because it was worthless ( why use that when the revenant is better ).   Anyway they might have helped a few of us with that buff.   I really hope all the assault rifles get a buff.


Really? :blink:

I pre-ordered the CE as well, and I'm also on xbox. Why did I not receive these mystical upgrades? Did you have to sign up somewhere to get them? I pre-ordered from Gamestop, so maybe that was why? :huh:


Yep. Pretty sure you had to preorder from Origin.

#182
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I got this email on March 29th, ordered from Origin,btw:

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Thank you for your recent purchase of Mass Effect 3 from Origin.

We apologize that we have not been able to supply the AT12 Raider Shotgun pre-order bonus item that was promised with your Mass Effect 3 purchase on Origin. Due to some unforeseen circumstances, we are unable to provide this item to gamers who ordered the console version of our game.

To make good on our error, we're offering you a free Collector Rifle Pack, which includes the Collector Assault Rifle and four randomly selected items perfect for taking down Reapers, Geth, and Cerberus agents in Mass Effect 3's online multi-player mode. We sincerely hope that this change doesn't detract from your enjoyment of the game.

To redeem your new weapon, navigate to the Mass Effect 3 multi-player menu and click "Store." You'll find the Collector Rifle Pack there.

Thank you for your patience,

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Why are you in here playing dev with 10 posts on every page anyway.


I love how you turn this around on me personally. Love it.

Either way, just because you need to headshot doesn't make it worthless. Thats why its a sniper rifle. It still does MUCH more than a Paladin, especially on an Infiltrator. Shotguns are short range, and even the "longish range" of the Claymore is mitigated by its one shot status.

Lets keep it professional, and not critique the fact that I enjoy posting here.

Modifié par DarkerCompanion, 04 juillet 2012 - 08:13 .


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Not sure what all the complaining is about. We can only guess how their balance updating goes; presumably anything that goes on their agenda will happen 2 weeks down the line. IE, after TC change they'll need at least a week, maybe 2, to collect new data. Then maybe the following (3rd) week will change more parts to the formula. In the meantime there are other things on the table. Just because your agenda isn't on the docket in a given week doesn't mean you have to be outraged about it.

As is? They buffed the two weakest Cerb units by a barely noticeable amount along with Turrets and Atlases. Depending on your weapon it's just another second or two of fire. As for the (few) people who are raging about things that can't be fixed in a weekly balance... take a deep breath, tell yourself it's just a game, and stop getting so angry.

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Boooo! Hisssss!!

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ExecutorBG wrote...

Why on earth did you have to increase the turret health... it was damn hard to kill as it was if you are not a sniper using character...


I agree with this in my expereince a well placed turret can do more to throw a group into death chaos than anything else.  They also do not count as an enemy in a wave and thus can still be live when the wave ends.

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collector rifle... its just goofy prob only 1% to 3% of the players even have thins gun. meanwhile those few that bought their game from special outlet get to have their bonus gun in MP. when those that bought ours on origin still dont have our guns in MP.

it is just silly having weapons in MP that some of us can never get because we didnt buy our game from a certain vendor or we got the downloadable version just so we could play on launch day.

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Sickening to see what EA/ bioware is doing with this game. Their nerfing the player to encourage real $ spent on packs. Their slowly handicaping the player, preventing new people from picking up the game- all this in a atempt to gouge the fanbase for more $.

The Fanbase will not be there much longer Bioware. EA is destroying you, and your letting them.

For shame.

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A Wild Snorlax wrote...

DarkerCompanion wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

Black widow has become a novelty weapon even at higher levels with the 2 most resent changes, good job!


Black Widow is an exceptional gun on all difficulties. There was a time when it was quite possibly the BEST gun in the game. I approve.


Clearly you haven't tried it after these most recent balance changes, you need to headshot grunts with it for it to be effective now. Which makes it pretty pointless, why would I then take it over a powerful shotgun or even paladin, which one shots in the head too.

Why are you in here playing dev with 10 posts on every page anyway.

I could not agree more , post spammers wannabes GTFO , i m so tired of you.

Dev sakin w***es masters of all things , stop postin start playing more.
Black widow got a huge nerf hammer for an UR i play 3 months

#190
Edalborez

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No need for hostility, people.

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Did they buff the Fagnan this week?

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supertitan wrote...

Great changes this week!!! I love how the four people are going to get something out of the collector rifle.


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BioWare loves to troll us.

Modifié par Cdr. Pwn, 04 juillet 2012 - 08:47 .


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 Completely forgettable changes.

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Why would you guys buff the turrets? Those things are already annoying to take down and can kill you before you know it and get placed in the most annoying places. Why did they need more shields? I can kind of understand the Atlas buff though, even though I don't like it. With a Harrier(only at level one) I could solo them on Bronze and Silver.

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Disappointing.

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SkreeMalicious wrote...

Attention all Alliance Forces,

Our Intel boys have indicated the recent reinforcements Cerberus may have received were actions taken in response to our own Frontline troops commenting on the battlefield such remarks as 'killing turrets is easy' and 'its a good thing turrets dont have more armor'.

Let this be a testament to the nefarious surveillance abilities of our enemy, and a reminder that despite all outward appearances, our enemies are watching our every action and listening to our every word.

This in mind, your Squad-Leaders will be soon issuing you cue-cards each containing a slew of official Alliance-Sanctioned combat banter to deploy in the field, such as 'my weapons are ineffective' and 'my enemies are already too challenging'.

With luck, we will fool their intelligence network into thinking they actually need to downplay their hand and rescind these recent battlefield enhancements, effectively weakining their presence throughout the galaxy.

-Hackett out



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DNC Protoman wrote...

Sickening to see what EA/ bioware is doing with this game. Their nerfing the player to encourage real $ spent on packs. Their slowly handicaping the player, preventing new people from picking up the game- all this in a atempt to gouge the fanbase for more $.


This is just ludicrous. There have been nerfs, yes, but far, far more buffs. This is a list of class buffs since release:


Human Adept 4 Buffs
Human Sentinel 3 Buffs
Human Soldier   9 Buffs
Human Soldier (Battlefield) 7 Buffs
Human Engineer 3 Buffs
Human Infiltrator 1 NERF
Human Vanguard 2 Buffs
Turian Sentinel 3 Buffs
Turian Soldier 6 Buffs, 1 NERF
Krogan Sentinel 6 Buffs
Krogan Soldier 2 Buffs
Asari Adept 1 NERF
Asari Vanguard 2 Buffs, 1 NERF
Drell Adept 3 Buffs
Drell Vanguard 4 Buffs
Salarian Infiltrator 2 Buffs, 2 NERFS
Salarian Engineer 2 Buffs
Female Quarian Infiltrator 2 Buffs, 3 NERFS
Female Quarian Engineer 4 Buffs
Batarian Sentinel 5 Buffs
Batarian Soldier 1 Buff (1 nerf that was a bug fix)
Geth Infiltrator 2 NERFS
Geth Engineer 1 NERF
Male Quarian Infiltrator 1 NERF
Phoenix Vanguard 1 Buff
Phoenix Adept 1 Buff

Thats 14 nerfs and 72 buffs. Additionally, Tech and Fire explosions got stronger, while BEs got smaller. 5 of these were the TC nerf, 2 were Hunter mode, 2 were a very small WEEK ONE Proxy mine nerf, 2 were a WEEK ONE Stasis cooldown increase, and 2 were Sabotage nerfs. The last was the bug fix on Ballistic Blades.

Is this clear evidence that the game is being manipulated by EA to force the game into excessive difficulty so that people will be forced to buy packs? You tell me.

Modifié par DarkerCompanion, 04 juillet 2012 - 09:01 .


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DarkerCompanion wrote...

DNC Protoman wrote...

Sickening to see what EA/ bioware is doing with this game. Their nerfing the player to encourage real $ spent on packs. Their slowly handicaping the player, preventing new people from picking up the game- all this in a atempt to gouge the fanbase for more $.

*stuff omitted for less-ugly quoting*

Don't bother trying to reason with DNC. He has an agenda against BW.

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Unless I'm mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, the recent buffs to cerberus ememies health means we'll need just a couple of more claymore shots, just to quote a weapon, to kill them.

Am I right?

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you people can list the number of nerfs vs buffs all you want, dosen't change the fact the nerfs have been FAR more significant.

But keep drinking the EA coolaid.