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Ashley Williams - Hair Up or Hair Down?


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#76
Zaxares

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Feanor_II wrote...

For military service/during missions --> ME1/2

When out of duty/"civilian" --> ME3


This. Nothing says a woman (or a man) needs to be totally professional or totally beautiful ALL the time. There's a time and place for everything.

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Bocks wrote...

7Nemesis wrote...

I like the ME3 Ash. More action oriented.


You do realise that's completely wrong, right? Long hair would get in the way of aiming and is generally why most soldiers have their heads shaved.

By "action oriented" I meant naughty...Jeez, do I have to spell it out?

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I was one of the people who got on Bioware's case after Ashley's new look was leaked, so yeah... ME1/2 Ashley (sans derpy eyes) all the way.

I hated the shift in art direction between ME1 and ME2 as well... don't care about people's justifications for the catsuit armor or the shirtless crazy chicks; the action-flicky/anime style-ups of the female characters since ME2 (minus Benezia because she was, you know, eccentric) totally crapped on the cool, militaristic sci-fi look that I loved in ME1.

I also thought that Ashley's supermodel makeover in ME3 went hand in hand with her new boring bimbo personality. FFS, her getting sloshed on the floor of the observation deck = comedic relief from the bimbo archetype. Terrific. Such a great step up from her hardcore soldier-poet portrayal in ME1, imo.

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Bun FTW!

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I preferred her with it up.

I dont mind either, though.

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Up, but I liked her whole look in ME1 a whole lot better.

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Hm, I love how people are judging the character by appearance alone. Happens in Gears of War too. Some people can't get past the character looks. How shallow.

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Hair up. Her whole look was great in ME1 and 2. Like in the early comments someone mentioned she was beautiful with that tomboyish personality. It fits her much better with it up. I mean I'm fine with her look in ME3 but, it just didn't really fit her. It just seemed like they tried to compare her with the look of Miranda. (no offense intended) When really, no one compares to Ash no matter what she looks like, in my opinion. Plus they changed her cheekbones for some reason. It seemed like she got plastic surgery in more place then one, got tight fitting clothes, decided to not wear as much armor, and got paler. I miss the bun up, tanned from battle, proper ship dress uniform, and always wearing armor on the field Ashley.

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I don't mind either, but I'm getting sick of the people ****ing because they made her more attractive.

Either way, she's attractive AND a pretty flippin' great character.

Modifié par Fauxnormal, 08 juillet 2012 - 06:39 .


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I don't mind either way, I like Ashley's personality.

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I preferred it when her hair was up in a bun. Having hair down in ME3 is fine but making her face look fatter just made her look stupid.

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On the couple of missions when I used Ash, I purposefully put her in her mini-skirt, just because it was so silly. Though I did wonder if perhaps that outfit had -30% health/shields built in :).

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never liked ashley until ME3 just because she had her hair down and said funny things thru out the campaign

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I prefer my Ashley dead on Virmire... racist b****!

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Hair up. We already have Miri for the other option.


Miri could use some more hair to hide her not so beautiful face (not saying it's ugly but not hot either). I think something went wrong, the model looks a lot better irl.
Though Ash has always been my LI, IMO Jack has the most beautifull face. I just don't like tattoo's on a girl ;)

I slightly go for hair up.

Modifié par Haargel, 08 juillet 2012 - 11:48 .


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Haargel wrote...
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Jack has the most beautifull face. I just don't like tattoo's on a girl ;)
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I like howJack's face matched the somewhat wounded personality that initially lay behind her brutal philosophy.

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Not only do I miss how she looked in ME1 but I also miss how she acted, the tomboy-like attitude with a determination to prove that she belonged.. I think she's more attractive in the first game also.

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Not whining, she's still my favorite character.

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Ashley in her original pink armor?

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While I think Ash looks just fine in ME3 (I'm a sucker for women with long dark straight hair)

I do think her reskin into a more "sexier" Ash with a boob job just goes along with the template for many dev's in the industry when it comes to women. Just like Miranda's behind the back camera placement where 3/4 of your screen is her ass. I understand that sex sells yadayada, but at some point it just seems cheesey to me, and this is coming from a straight male in his mid 30's point of view. I play games for the gameplay, storyline and immersion; not so much for the pixellated boobs.

Back to Ash though, she's supposed to be a hardened soldier, and I got that from her character in ME1, ME3..... not so much, seemed like pandering.

Modifié par Stevebo, 09 juillet 2012 - 02:36 .


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Sperizer wrote...

 I preferred her with the bun. She was an original character in the sense that she wasn't a mega feminine romance. In ME2 Ashley jumps ship (literally) and the more tomboyish choice is Jack. In ME3, two things are apparently true: A) This galaxy isn't big enough for two romancable tomboys-- Jack is kept (sort of), and Ashley's kicked out of the clan of rage-filled awesomeness; and B) Going further up the chain of command must mean that instead of "calming down", so to speak, she (Ashley) "revs up" her appearance for some reason. While I don't want to get too stereotypical, I do find that as you get older, most people flaunt a little bit less of themselves (i.e. less makeup, less low-cuts) as it is more professional. 

The fact of the matter is that, for Ashley's presented character in ME1, the change is somewhat unrealistic.

But maybe that's just my nit-picking because I never got to romance her with femshep. :P


My perspective on ash changing from me1 to me3 is this, and this comes from my perspective of being in the army and then almsot dieing (think about all the dangerous **** ash has seen just in the games and probaly out of as well) crazy **** happens and perspective on life changes.

She was probaly so dedicated to her carreer when she was younger and in the span of a couple of years her perspective changed a bit and she wanted to live life a little more and became a bit more introspective as well. she let her hair down and yes, became more quiet. its actualy similar to me. I was a high speed soldier once upon a time, i almost died, I started growing my hair out more (within regs of course) i went from high and tight to low fade, bought a motorcycle (ducati), and my character did indeed change. I put more thoughts into my emotional wants rather than logic and became more introspective.

ash is one of my favorite characters because she is, well human (talking character not species) and relatable to me. I realy never felt she was ruined in any way. with all the amazing characters in the sereis, and as much as i love the other characters, and even though ash is not my number 1 favorite (its garrus), I think she is the easiest to relate too. there's nothing extaordinary about her. she's just a girl with a normal family a normal background who was thrust into extraordinary circumstances.

My Vote: Hair Down and enjoying of life what she can because there is no gaurentee of tommorow.

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DriftingMustang wrote...

Sperizer wrote...

 I preferred her with the bun. She was an original character in the sense that she wasn't a mega feminine romance. In ME2 Ashley jumps ship (literally) and the more tomboyish choice is Jack. In ME3, two things are apparently true: A) This galaxy isn't big enough for two romancable tomboys-- Jack is kept (sort of), and Ashley's kicked out of the clan of rage-filled awesomeness; and B) Going further up the chain of command must mean that instead of "calming down", so to speak, she (Ashley) "revs up" her appearance for some reason. While I don't want to get too stereotypical, I do find that as you get older, most people flaunt a little bit less of themselves (i.e. less makeup, less low-cuts) as it is more professional. 

The fact of the matter is that, for Ashley's presented character in ME1, the change is somewhat unrealistic.

But maybe that's just my nit-picking because I never got to romance her with femshep. :P


My perspective on ash changing from me1 to me3 is this, and this comes from my perspective of being in the army and then almsot dieing (think about all the dangerous **** ash has seen just in the games and probaly out of as well) crazy **** happens and perspective on life changes.

She was probaly so dedicated to her carreer when she was younger and in the span of a couple of years her perspective changed a bit and she wanted to live life a little more and became a bit more introspective as well. she let her hair down and yes, became more quiet. its actualy similar to me. I was a high speed soldier once upon a time, i almost died, I started growing my hair out more (within regs of course) i went from high and tight to low fade, bought a motorcycle (ducati), and my character did indeed change. I put more thoughts into my emotional wants rather than logic and became more introspective.

ash is one of my favorite characters because she is, well human (talking character not species) and relatable to me. I realy never felt she was ruined in any way. with all the amazing characters in the sereis, and as much as i love the other characters, and even though ash is not my number 1 favorite (its garrus), I think she is the easiest to relate too. there's nothing extaordinary about her. she's just a girl with a normal family a normal background who was thrust into extraordinary circumstances.

My Vote: Hair Down and enjoying of life what she can because there is no gaurentee of tommorow.


Thank you for the very personal story. I love your hints for Ash's new look.
If she hadn't been wearing high heels and a blue glowing catsuit while all the rest are wearing uniforms, I would have gladly settled for that. Unfortunately, I think they just wanted her to look sexier.
I saved Kaidan, but its was good to have such a female character in ME1.

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Since Ashley is such a "Soldier-character" I really dislike her pretty-hair and makeup look in ME3, and oh and that "uniform"

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

I hated the shift in art direction between ME1 and ME2 as well... don't care about people's justifications for the catsuit armor or the shirtless crazy chicks; the action-flicky/anime style-ups of the female characters since ME2 (minus Benezia because she was, you know, eccentric) totally crapped on the cool, militaristic sci-fi look that I loved in ME1.

This.
ME1 Ash (hair up, smaller boobs) was better.

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DoomHK wrote...

I preferred Ash with her hair in a bun, like in ME1 and ME2. I think it fits her character better.

That said, I'm good with her redesign for the most part, but I wish it were possible to have her put her hair in a bun. Even if she has it down on the Normandy, at least one of her outfits (perhaps the blue armour) should give Ash her ME1/ME2 hairstyle.


This would have been nice.  Bun when in armor, down when on the ship relaxing.