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[taliefer]

the whole ending sequence is just absurd. im all for suspension of disbelief, but there comes a point where its just absurd.

oh look, the humans appear to be making a last ditch effort. they appear to be concentrating on reaching this beam....now where did i put that off switch?

the reapers control the citadel, turn the damn beam off. and all this is happening BEFORE the crucible docks, so theres not even the argument of the starkid wanting shepard to reach it, since we are supposed to believe its the crucible that changes the catalyst into allowing shepard to make his choice. before that hes just in continue the cycle mode

if the normandy is stealthy enough to do an extraction(which seemed entirely out of place), drop off a bunch of people right at the damn beam.

[KingJason13]

taliefer wrote...

the whole ending sequence is just absurd. im all for suspension of disbelief, but there comes a point where its just absurd.

oh look, the humans appear to be making a last ditch effort. they appear to be concentrating on reaching this beam....now where did i put that off switch?

the reapers control the citadel, turn the damn beam off. and all this is happening BEFORE the crucible docks, so theres not even the argument of the starkid wanting shepard to reach it, since we are supposed to believe its the crucible that changes the catalyst into allowing shepard to make his choice. before that hes just in continue the cycle mode

if the normandy is stealthy enough to do an extraction(which seemed entirely out of place), drop off a bunch of people right at the damn beam.

#%^)@* EXACTLY. The super stealthy Normandy should have just dropped off a crew at the Beam!

[Doom972]

KingZayd wrote...

Doom972 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.

^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

Thats because its just too absurd. Your in a last ditch attempt to charge the beam and you and your squad stop so they can be brought to safety?!

Come on, its funny if you really think about it.

Edit: I cant even hate it because I cant take it seriously enough.

Fun fact: Evacs happen all the time during an active battlefield. The evac during the beam is not absurd at all.

You are right, but people here don't seem to have much knowledge on military procedure.
It's of higher priority to suppress people attacking you than attacking those running away. This is why evacs such as the one portrayed in the game make are possible and make sense.
The Reapers, being good strategists, obviously would want to encourage people to run away, since as long as no one gets to the beam, victory is theirs.

So why does Liara get an evac while the others are abandoned? What makes her so important? And if she's so important, what is she doing on the suicide run?

What others are you talking about? I don't remember seeing abandoned wounded until after Shepard regains conciousness, and that's because everyone there died.

[comrade gando]

I like how that clown casey hudson or someone said that there wou’dnt be a long lost reaper off button. well, crucible seems to be just that. : /

wouldn’t be the first time he lied to us tho would it lol, I SWEAR every single statement he said about this game was completely FALSE lmao

[Makrys]

comrade gando wrote...

I swear EC just made the ending worse if you ask me. It explains some plot holes like your team on the normandy but its so rediculous its not even plausible. It flat out RETCONS some parts of the original endings... So much for artistic integrity. And it adds a new ending when they said they wouldnt, but this new ending is just insultingly bad and it has no reason being there. And the worst part: theres little to no character closure, you never find out what happens to shepard and his team, meanwhile devs are telling me to use my imagination essentially.

That is garbage. And im not buying anything else from these jokers until they straighten themselves out.

Just my opinion of course

Once again you are an echo of my thoughts. Agreed completely.

[N-Seven]

BrookerT wrote...

Hvlukas wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

Why didn't Saren Kill Shepard when he held him by the neck? Cool emotional scenes don't have to be logical to be good

When BrookerT posted this, there really wasn't much reason to continue the thread. 

But yet it continues

Yep.  Because it's a cool scene and it works better that way. 

Happens all the time in movies and stuff.  Haters gonna hate though.  Let's look for more reason to hate Bioware please, it makes us feel all warm and fuzzy when we unite this way.

[Omega Torsk]

Harbinger was looking down at the time...

That's the best I can come up with. Let the scene be.

It just... it felt good, okay?

[goodventure]

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.

This. If even one person makes it to the beam, then Harbinger fails.

[GroverA125]

That pretty much summarizes what the extended cut did. Fixed a plothole by adding a different one in its place. The majority of what they added still has plotholes and the other parts now have plotholes.

[Reptilian Rob]

Here, let me nit-pick some more.

FFS.

[CronoDragoon]

It's not a frakin plot hole. "Why didn't this happen?" questions are not plotholes.

[clos]

Nothing like a scene in the game that totally contradicts the character of your squad members: "Hey, I know you have been there every step of the way, but in the most important moment of the galaxy, I'm gonna do this on my own. Here is the Normandy, off you guys go. Peace."

It totally betrayed Shepard as a leader and his confidence upon his squad. It was pathetic and thematically revolting.

[Obadiah]

Makrys wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

I swear EC just made the ending worse if you ask me. It explains some plot holes like your team on the normandy but its so rediculous its not even plausible. It flat out RETCONS some parts of the original endings... So much for artistic integrity. And it adds a new ending when they said they wouldnt, but this new ending is just insultingly bad and it has no reason being there. And the worst part: theres little to no character closure, you never find out what happens to shepard and his team, meanwhile devs are telling me to use my imagination essentially.

That is garbage. And im not buying anything else from these jokers until they straighten themselves out.

Just my opinion of course

Once again you are an echo of my thoughts. Agreed completely.

The old endings are still in there - just lower EMS now.

[CronoDragoon]

clos wrote...

Nothing like a scene in the game that totally contradicts the character of your squad members: "Hey, I know you have been there every step of the way, but in the most important moment of the galaxy, I'm gonna do this on my own. Here is the Normandy, off you guys go. Peace."

It totally betrayed Shepard as a leader and his confidence upon his squad. It was pathetic and thematically revolting.

What was he going to do, carry them to the beam? They would only slow him down at that point.

[xxskyshadowxx]

Well they were trying to fix the horrible plothole of the crew magically teleporting to the ship...and they had hardly anything to work with. I guess they could have had Cortez looping circles around Harby in the shuttle to distract him while the Normandy made the emergency evacuation, so that Harby not taking a shot would make more sense. Might have been able to get another "Steeeeeeeve!" out of the deal too. Heh.

[Love Sherri]

Mr.House wrote...

You mean the ones that where flying TOWARDS the beam thus becomnig a threat and not staying behind to evac injured?

So the Normandy wasn't flying TOWARDS the beam to get Shepard? It was flying backwards..


 

Modifié par Love Sherri, 05 juillet 2012 - 06:21 .

[CronoDragoon]

Love Sherri wrote...


So the Normandy wasn't flying TOWARDS the beam to get Shepard? It was flying backwards..

If you actually watch the scene, it does not fly towards the beam to get Shepard. It circles around. Since this seems to be the thread to nitpick.

[ZackG312]

The scene just felt forced and silly

[GroverA125]

ZackG312 wrote...

The scene just felt forced and silly

This answer is the optimal form of answer to this discussion. It is perfectly short, yet gets all the major points across. I strongly agree with you.

[Love Sherri]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Love Sherri wrote...


So the Normandy wasn't flying TOWARDS the beam to get Shepard? It was flying backwards..

If you actually watch the scene, it does not fly towards the beam to get Shepard. It circles around. Since this seems to be the thread to nitpick.

Yeah, it magically appeared 2 seconds after Joker says, "Taking heavy loses up here, Commander"

Space Magic.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

Lets not forget it is not capable of landing on planets.

http://masseffect.wi...i/Normandy_SR-2

However, unlike the SR-1, the SR-2 cannot land on every planet—due to its increased mass—requiring shore parties to use a shuttle to get to a planet's surface.

[Spiritwolf1]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Lets not forget it is not capable of landing on planets.

http://masseffect.wi...i/Normandy_SR-2

However, unlike the SR-1, the SR-2 cannot land on every planet—due to its increased mass—requiring shore parties to use a shuttle to get to a planet's surface.

Just want to point out the contradiction in this post... SR2 cannot land on EVERY planet, which mean it can land on some.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Lets not forget it is not capable of landing on planets.

http://masseffect.wi...i/Normandy_SR-2

However, unlike the SR-1, the SR-2 cannot land on every planet—due to its increased mass—requiring shore parties to use a shuttle to get to a planet's surface.

Please notice that what you quoted says that the Normandy can't land on EVERY planet, not that it can't land on ANY planet.

[Love Sherri]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Lets not forget it is not capable of landing on planets.

http://masseffect.wi...i/Normandy_SR-2

However, unlike the SR-1, the SR-2 cannot land on every planet—due to its increased mass—requiring shore parties to use a shuttle to get to a planet's surface.

Please notice that what you quoted says that the Normandy can't land on EVERY planet, not that it can't land on ANY planet.

I think it's safe to say it can't crash land on any planet and magically be rebuilt for take off.

[iAFKinMassEffect3]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

iAFKinMassEffect3 wrote...

Lets not forget it is not capable of landing on planets.

http://masseffect.wi...i/Normandy_SR-2

However, unlike the SR-1, the SR-2 cannot land on every planet—due to its increased mass—requiring shore parties to use a shuttle to get to a planet's surface.

Please notice that what you quoted says that the Normandy can't land on EVERY planet, not that it can't land on ANY planet.

So it doesn't land on planets with more pressure than Earth and it doesn't land on planets with less pressure aside from a few to further the plot.
I smell a plot hole.