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#176
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Someone on Youtube had the answer: Harbi fell in love with the Normandy when he saw her cool new Alliance tattoos. Simple and obvious, really.

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Harbi the Love Reaper?

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He was thinking what to say but the normandy flew away before he could even speak :( poor harby ;(

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Because... they did a botch job of the EC, ok?

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I'm not sure if this was explained anywhere, but when did Harbinger become telepathic? Or does he just have REALLY good hearing? Like REALLY good?

Because for all he knows, there's a space ship appeared to drop off more troops or dispense heavy weapons or generally just shoot things.

How does harbinger know that people are evacuating? If he's concentrating so hard on the battle (as some people are saying) how can he analyse and predict what Shepard and his/her team are doing?

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Sire Styx wrote...

I'm not sure if this was explained anywhere, but when did Harbinger become telepathic? Or does he just have REALLY good hearing? Like REALLY good?

Because for all he knows, there's a space ship appeared to drop off more troops or dispense heavy weapons or generally just shoot things.

How does harbinger know that people are evacuating? If he's concentrating so hard on the battle (as some people are saying) how can he analyse and predict what Shepard and his/her team are doing?


Perhaps the Reapers can read some indoctrinated minds.. after all the "catalyst" - if that is his real name - is in the appearance of a boy that shepard has been having nightmares about...

I wouldnt say its too far of a stretch to think they can read minds to some extent...

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You have been Bioware'd

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Versus Omnibus wrote...

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He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.

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The same reason Bond villains don't just pop ol' James in the head with a gun. Let it go.

Modifié par KingNothing125, 04 juillet 2012 - 09:56 .


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Sire Styx wrote...

I'm not sure if this was explained anywhere, but when did Harbinger become telepathic? Or does he just have REALLY good hearing? Like REALLY good?

Because for all he knows, there's a space ship appeared to drop off more troops or dispense heavy weapons or generally just shoot things.

How does harbinger know that people are evacuating? If he's concentrating so hard on the battle (as some people are saying) how can he analyse and predict what Shepard and his/her team are doing?


Since it's relatively far from the beam, he concentrates people/vehicles closer to the beam, as they are more immediate threats.

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Doom972 wrote...

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He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.


Thats because its just too absurd. Your in a last ditch attempt to charge the beam and you and your squad stop so they can be brought to safety?!

Come on, its funny if you really think about it.

Edit: I cant even hate it because I cant take it seriously enough.

Fun fact: Evacs happen all the time during an active battlefield. The evac during the beam is not absurd at all.


You are right, but people here don't seem to have much knowledge on military procedure.
It's of higher priority to suppress people attacking you than attacking those running away. This is why evacs such as the one portrayed in the game make are possible and make sense.
The Reapers, being good strategists, obviously would want to encourage people to run away, since as long as no one gets to the beam, victory is theirs.


So why does Liara get an evac while the others are abandoned? What makes her so important? And if she's so important, what is she doing on the suicide run?

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So let's say you're playing one of those turret sections of ME3, except this time if any husks climb up the wall it's game over. There's a bunch of husks flying towards the wall, so you're busy shooting them all down. Then you see a Ravager land in the back to pick up husks running away from the fight. What do you do?

You obviously keep shooting the husks climbing up the wall.

Now, the complaint that Shep's squad would have kept pushing on to the beam anyway because it's all or nothing holds more weight, but then we wouldn't get that last goodbye scene with your bros and hoes. If you play ME for advanced military tactics then I can sympathize with your disbelief of this scene. If you play for the characters then it should be easy to suck it up and enjoy the show.

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Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.


They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

Plus we clearly see Harbinger's eyes follow it, so it cannot possibly be invisible to him.

Modifié par Flog61, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:19 .


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Haven't read the whole of this thread, but was wondering-

The Normandy, as of Mass Effect two, has thanix cannon, doesn't she? And so why, assuming she'd had the time for an evac, did she never engage Harbinger? Shouldn't that have given the ground assault the time and distraction they needed to reach the beam? Perhaps even having destroyed Harbinger in one of those fights where Shepard must run toward the beam whilst painting it with a laser designator for the Normandy's targetting solution? Or does that smack too much of the sort of 'boss fight' so many here are against? 

But following that vein- I know the reasonings for having the makos charging along side the marines, armour supported by infantry, but why were the air vehicles flying that direct route- rather than say- flanking harbinger and raking it from its blind spots?

And following that in turn, mightn't they have beaten Harbinger using the old cabling around the legs trick from 'The Empire Strikes Back'- from the battle for Hoth?

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Haven't read the whole of this thread, but was wondering-

The Normandy, as of Mass Effect two, has thanix cannon, doesn't she? And so why, assuming she'd had the time for an evac, did she never engage Harbinger? Shouldn't that have given the ground assault the time and distraction they needed to reach the beam? Perhaps even having destroyed Harbinger in one of those fights where Shepard must run toward the beam whilst painting it with a laser designator for the Normandy's targetting solution? Or does that smack too much of the sort of 'boss fight' so many here are against? 

But following that vein- I know the reasonings for having the makos charging along side the marines, armour supported by infantry, but why were the air vehicles flying that direct route- rather than say- flanking harbinger and raking it from its blind spots?

And following that in turn, mightn't they have beaten Harbinger using the old cabling around the legs trick from 'The Empire Strikes Back'- from the battle for Hoth?


Yeah tbh the normandy could have flanked harbinger, and killing him would have been much better thsan saving the life of two people.

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Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.


They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

You failed to see the point
The reason why the reapers chase you is that the IFF doesnt work as soon as you start scanning the system alerting the reapers that you are not one of them, so they attack.  Otherwise you can fly around perfectly without any trouble.  Just like in the battle scenes at the end where no reapers attacked normandy while it flyed to earth.
Logic wins again.

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Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.


They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

You failed to see the point
The reason why the reapers chase you is that the IFF doesnt work as soon as you start scanning the system alerting the reapers that you are not one of them, so they attack.  Otherwise you can fly around perfectly without any trouble.  Just like in the battle scenes at the end where no reapers attacked normandy while it flyed to earth.
Logic wins again.


First of all the word is 'flew' not 'flyed'

Grammar wins again.

Secondly, be a dear and explain why harbinger's eyes follow the normandy when it takes off?

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Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.


They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

You failed to see the point
The reason why the reapers chase you is that the IFF doesnt work as soon as you start scanning the system alerting the reapers that you are not one of them, so they attack.  Otherwise you can fly around perfectly without any trouble.  Just like in the battle scenes at the end where no reapers attacked normandy while it flyed to earth.
Logic wins again.


And palavan, you snuck right in and none of the reapers were like "The normandy! Get it!!!" 

Or on thessia, the reapers were invading like they were on earth and didn't target the normandy.

Speaking of earth, what about earth!? The very height of the invasion the normandy flys right by the reaper fleet and doesn't get persude?

The normandy when not using radar like scanning is undetectable to reapers, as stupid as that sounds in game evidence shows that.

Modifié par xsdob, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:27 .


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xsdob wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.


They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

You failed to see the point
The reason why the reapers chase you is that the IFF doesnt work as soon as you start scanning the system alerting the reapers that you are not one of them, so they attack.  Otherwise you can fly around perfectly without any trouble.  Just like in the battle scenes at the end where no reapers attacked normandy while it flyed to earth.
Logic wins again.


And palavan, you snuck right in and none of the reapers were like "The normandy! Get it!!!" 

Or on thessia, the reapers were invading like they were on earth and didn't target the normandy.

Speaking of earth, what about earth!? The very height of the invasion the normandy flys right by the reaper fleet and doesn't get persude?

The normandy when not using radar like scanning is undetectable to reapers, as stupid as that sounds in game evidence shows that.


Again, if the normandy is invisible to the reapers why do harbinger's eyes follow it when it takes off with the rescued crew members?

Modifié par Flog61, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:31 .


#195
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Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.


They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

You failed to see the point
The reason why the reapers chase you is that the IFF doesnt work as soon as you start scanning the system alerting the reapers that you are not one of them, so they attack.  Otherwise you can fly around perfectly without any trouble.  Just like in the battle scenes at the end where no reapers attacked normandy while it flyed to earth.
Logic wins again.


First of all the word is 'flew' not 'flyed'

Grammar wins again.

Secondly, be a dear and explain why harbinger's eyes follow the normandy when it takes off?

WOW
Seriously is that the best you can do, pick up on a spelling/grammer mistake?
I think you should look at alot of the posters on these forums, since just about everyone has a case of bad spelling/grammer every now and then.
Oh and by the way harby's eyes are not following the ship, they are focused on the ground infront of the conduit, you know at the attacking hammer forces.  Because his eyes never move.
Logic wins again.

Modifié par Apollo-XL5, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:33 .


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Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.


^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.


They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

You failed to see the point
The reason why the reapers chase you is that the IFF doesnt work as soon as you start scanning the system alerting the reapers that you are not one of them, so they attack.  Otherwise you can fly around perfectly without any trouble.  Just like in the battle scenes at the end where no reapers attacked normandy while it flyed to earth.
Logic wins again.


First of all the word is 'flew' not 'flyed'

Grammar wins again.

Secondly, be a dear and explain why harbinger's eyes follow the normandy when it takes off?

WOW
Seriously is that the best you can do, pick up on a spelling/grammer mistake?
I think you should look at alot of the posters on these forums, since just about everyone has a case of bad spelling/grammer every now and then.
Oh and by the way harby's eyes are not following the ship, they are focused on the ground infront of the conduit, you know at the attacking hammer forces.  Because his eyes never move.
Logic wins again.



Watch it and honestly tell me that harby's eyes do not follow the normandy at around 1:42

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Why didn't the Normandy provide cover fire, everyone would have got a chance to hear the catalyst's ridiculous logic then

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xsdob wrote...
And palavan, you snuck right in and none of the reapers were like "The normandy! Get it!!!" 

Or on thessia, the reapers were invading like they were on earth and didn't target the normandy.

Speaking of earth, what about earth!? The very height of the invasion the normandy flys right by the reaper fleet and doesn't get persude?

The normandy when not using radar like scanning is undetectable to reapers, as stupid as that sounds in game evidence shows that.


During the Palaven mission the Reapers were fighting the Turian fleet and the Normandy was moving.
And wasn't it the shuttle during the Thessia mission?
Do you mean the opening? In that case either the Normandy's IFF hid them (in which case why doesn't everyone have it and how did the Collector ship see it?) or it's so the game lasted longer than 15 minutes.

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Why didn't the Normandy provide cover fire, everyone would have got a chance to hear the catalyst's ridiculous logic then


For the same reason you kill a reaper with thanix missiles even though the codex says the thanix tech cannot be put into missile form.

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I already did watch it today and it didnt move, and watched just now. You are just clutching at straws. His eyes dont, because they cant movem, they are fixed in place. Also Harby didn't move either.

Logic wins yet again.