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[Apollo-XL5]

DinoSteve wrote...

Why didn't the Normandy provide cover fire, everyone would have got a chance to hear the catalyst's ridiculous logic then

Because if they had fired, then the IFF would fail and Harby would have shot them down.

[xsdob]

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

shepdog77 wrote...

He was trying to prevent people from getting to the beam, not the people trying to get away.

^This

People are trying too hard to hate this scene.

I donbt get why people are hating it, the tearful goodbyes are perfect.
Plus people seem to forget about the reaper IFF.

They arent hating on the goodbyes, they are hating on the illogical time an place of these goodbyes.

Plus the reaper IFF point is irrelevant since we know it doesnt mask the normandy because reapers chase it in the system scanning minigame.

You failed to see the point
The reason why the reapers chase you is that the IFF doesnt work as soon as you start scanning the system alerting the reapers that you are not one of them, so they attack.  Otherwise you can fly around perfectly without any trouble.  Just like in the battle scenes at the end where no reapers attacked normandy while it flyed to earth.
Logic wins again.

First of all the word is 'flew' not 'flyed'

Grammar wins again.

Secondly, be a dear and explain why harbinger's eyes follow the normandy when it takes off?

WOW
Seriously is that the best you can do, pick up on a spelling/grammer mistake?
I think you should look at alot of the posters on these forums, since just about everyone has a case of bad spelling/grammer every now and then.
Oh and by the way harby's eyes are not following the ship, they are focused on the ground infront of the conduit, you know at the attacking hammer forces.  Because his eyes never move.
Logic wins again.

Watch it and honestly tell me that harby's eyes do not follow the normandy at around 1:42

Watched your clip, and harbinger appears to be standing still while the normandy flys past it, eyes don't follow and stays focused on the ground force.

I'm just not seeing what your seeing, the closest it comes to looking like it's following the normandy is your time, but than look at 1:46 onward, harbinger isn't looking at them at all.

Trick angle creating an optical illusion is what I think is going on, since the camera is panning with the normandy and harbinger is big enough to still take up a large portion of the center frame.

Modifié par xsdob, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:41 .

[forthary]

Probably because harbinger was after Shepard, not the normandy.

As for why he didn't shoot them...only guess is that harbinger was too busy disintegrating everyone and everything that tried to get to the beam. Though it's somewhat poorly executed.

[legion999]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

I already did watch it today and it didnt move, and watched just now. You are just clutching at straws. His eyes dont, because they cant movem, they are fixed in place. Also Harby didn't move either.

Logic wins yet again.

Sorry when did you have an understanding of Reaper anatomy? And didn't the Human Reapers eyes move?

[Brovikk Rasputin]

The same thing happened during the intro, but no one complains about that.

[AlexMBrennan]

Because if they had fired, then the IFF would fail and Harby would have shot them down.

The same thing happened during the intro, but no one complains about that.

OK, let's just all stop making up stuff to support our arguments. People did complain about it

Edit to add: Sorry, missed your use of tense there. People did complain about it happening in the intro, but are no longer complaining about it now because we're now discussing the EC and how broken that is. Everyone agrees that it happening in the intro is bad, so there's no need to discuss it further.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:45 .

[Apollo-XL5]

legion999 wrote...

xsdob wrote...
And palavan, you snuck right in and none of the reapers were like "The normandy! Get it!!!" 

Or on thessia, the reapers were invading like they were on earth and didn't target the normandy.

Speaking of earth, what about earth!? The very height of the invasion the normandy flys right by the reaper fleet and doesn't get persude?

The normandy when not using radar like scanning is undetectable to reapers, as stupid as that sounds in game evidence shows that.

Because unfortunantly cerberus only had one and  they couldnt reverse engineer it.
During the Palaven mission the Reapers were fighting the Turian fleet and the Normandy was moving.
And wasn't it the shuttle during the Thessia mission?
Do you mean the opening? In that case either the Normandy's IFF hid them (in which case why doesn't everyone have it and how did the Collector ship see it?) or it's so the game lasted longer than 15 minutes.

Because unfortunantly cerberus on ly had one and they couldnt reverse engineer it in ME2.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

The same thing happened during the intro, but no one complains about that.

OK, let's just all stop making up stuff to support our arguments. People did complain about it

Really? I must have missed that. Well, it's still a silly thing to complain about.

[legion999]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The same thing happened during the intro, but no one complains about that.

It was stupid during the intro as well. The ship was still for no reason. Shepard was watching the kid but Joker didn't know that and ,when Reapers are invading, wouldn't care. What did he fall asleep?

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Why didn't the Normandy provide cover fire, everyone would have got a chance to hear the catalyst's ridiculous logic then

Because if they had fired, then the IFF would fail and Harby would have shot them down.

But when he was shooting at them the ground time would have had a straight run, they were almost there.

[Loopeeeeeee]

safe to say bioware and ea are lol'ing loads that you spent your hard earned $60 / £40 on the game. gamers need to vote with their wallets and make a stand and grow a spine to these nonsense videogame companies.

Modifié par Loopeeeeeee, 04 juillet 2012 - 10:46 .

[legion999]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

legion999 wrote...
During the Palaven mission the Reapers were fighting the Turian fleet and the Normandy was moving.
And wasn't it the shuttle during the Thessia mission?
Do you mean the opening? In that case either the Normandy's IFF hid them (in which case why doesn't everyone have it and how did the Collector ship see it?) or it's so the game lasted longer than 15 minutes.

Because unfortunantly cerberus on ly had one and they couldnt reverse engineer it in ME2.

They can't replicate an IFF? Why not?

[Brovikk Rasputin]

legion999 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The same thing happened during the intro, but no one complains about that.

It was stupid during the intro as well. The ship was still for no reason. Shepard was watching the kid but Joker didn't know that and ,when Reapers are invading, wouldn't care. What did he fall asleep?

I think you just managed to enter a whole new realm of nit picking with that post. 

I'll just leave before this gets ugly. Carry on folks.

[Apollo-XL5]

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

I already did watch it today and it didnt move, and watched just now. You are just clutching at straws. His eyes dont, because they cant movem, they are fixed in place. Also Harby didn't move either.

Logic wins yet again.

Im sorry, when does it state that Harbinger's eyes are fixed in place? Can you give a link?

Well lets see...(funny)
How about every time you see him in ME2/ME3
His eyes are just lights, meant to give harbinger a little more character and look more imposing than the other reapers.  I bet he has no real need for them, since none of the other reapers have this fancy visual feature.
Logic wins.....oh you get the point.

[Apollo-XL5]

legion999 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

legion999 wrote...
During the Palaven mission the Reapers were fighting the Turian fleet and the Normandy was moving.
And wasn't it the shuttle during the Thessia mission?
Do you mean the opening? In that case either the Normandy's IFF hid them (in which case why doesn't everyone have it and how did the Collector ship see it?) or it's so the game lasted longer than 15 minutes.

Because unfortunantly cerberus on ly had one and they couldnt reverse engineer it in ME2.

They can't replicate an IFF? Why not?

Its reaper tech.  They can only use what they find.  I have never seen any moments in the ME trilogy where they say, we created that reaper thing there by studying that reaper thing over here.

[legion999]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...
Because unfortunantly cerberus on ly had one and they couldnt reverse engineer it in ME2.

They can't replicate an IFF? Why not?

Its reaper tech.  They can only use what they find.  I have never seen any moments in the ME trilogy where they say, we created that reaper thing there by studying that reaper thing over here.

Thanix cannons, Cerberus tech and EDI.

[Apollo-XL5]

Flog61 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

I already did watch it today and it didnt move, and watched just now. You are just clutching at straws. His eyes dont, because they cant movem, they are fixed in place. Also Harby didn't move either.

Logic wins yet again.

Im sorry, when does it state that Harbinger's eyes are fixed in place? Can you give a link?

#didn'tthinkso

Wow, again wow!
I dont need to give a link since all the evidence you need is in the games.  play them. love them. Done
"I know you feel this"

[legion999]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The same thing happened during the intro, but no one complains about that.

It was stupid during the intro as well. The ship was still for no reason. Shepard was watching the kid but Joker didn't know that and ,when Reapers are invading, wouldn't care. What did he fall asleep?

I think you just managed to enter a whole new realm of nit picking with that post. 

I'll just leave before this gets ugly. Carry on folks.

No I was simply showing that people thought the intro was poorly done as well. And 'nitpicking'? Really? 

[Apollo-XL5]

legion999 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...
Because unfortunantly cerberus on ly had one and they couldnt reverse engineer it in ME2.

They can't replicate an IFF? Why not?

Its reaper tech.  They can only use what they find.  I have never seen any moments in the ME trilogy where they say, we created that reaper thing there by studying that reaper thing over here.

Thanix cannons, Cerberus tech and EDI.

No
they can mix reaper tech with their own (EDI)orbuild weapons with own tech based on reaper designs...though not the exact same firepower (thanix cannons)
and they can put reaper tech in people (IM and cerberus soldier)
but they can not replicate reaper tech
they use what reaper tech they find.
why do you think cerberus wanted the collector base for.

[Pride Demon]

-Skorpious- wrote...

If Bioware didn't explain the teleporting squad plothole more people would have been pissed. Yes, the execution was sloppy (why couldn't Cortez pick them up instead?), but it was better than refusing to address the issue.

Oh, and Shepard forcing his squadmates to limp towards the beam wouldn't have helped anyone either.

He crash landed, his shuttle is gone and he's stuck on the ground (unless he died), so that point shouldn't be a problem...

[Apollo-XL5]

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

I already did watch it today and it didnt move, and watched just now. You are just clutching at straws. His eyes dont, because they cant movem, they are fixed in place. Also Harby didn't move either.

Logic wins yet again.

Im sorry, when does it state that Harbinger's eyes are fixed in place? Can you give a link?

Well lets see...(funny)
How about every time you see him in ME2/ME3
His eyes are just lights, meant to give harbinger a little more character and look more imposing than the other reapers.  I bet he has no real need for them, since none of the other reapers have this fancy visual feature.
Logic wins.....oh you get the point.

Then you are admitting that bioware does things just for effect, although at the cost of the lore-integrity?

Such as Harbinger not eeding those lights, such as him not shooting it, such as the thanix missiles which were deemed imporrible in the codex, such as what do the keepers eat, such as why dont the reapers just send out loads of oculi to decimae the fleets, such as why thanix cannons arent really used in the final battle despite them being the most powerful weapons we have?

All, my friend fall under the endearing umbrella of...
SPACE MAGIC

(some under the umbrella of indoctrination if you believe in that)

I didnt admit to anything, your the one making accusations and nitpicking a great series.  Harby has eyes to make him look more important than he actually is (he was the mastermind of ME2 but really is only another speaker for the reapers to organics.. like sovereign before.  the real enemies of ME were the reapers as a whole.  Just like the IM was not indoctrinated before ME2, because he believed in defeating the reapers at any cost (while getting some of their tech as a bonus) and didnt even mention controling them until ME3.