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[The Genophage]

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

he comes more opposed to the ideas, all except synthesis, but he has tried that before. i don't hard to tell if it is lying if it is being forced by the crucible

like i have said if i do nothing and i was right i would feel a lot worse doing something and being wrong

garrus said it best in me1

Again, its show he can turn off the crucible, in matter of fact, why not lie and say that jumping in the beam will kill all reapers, its too fishy and there is no reason to trust him.

well i think the fact he doesnt say that if you jump in beam u blow reapers up shows he isn't lyiing. but i am not saying he is not lying but without metagaming my choice is destroy. it seems like the safer option , i am tempted by refuse like i have said, but i want to know there is a chance of winning first.

otherwise i will use the crucible. but i am not sure if the catalyst is lying or not   

I'm not arguing whether hes lying or not, I'm arguing how it is suspicious that he is helping you, if you can't even argue the root of what your talking about, please stop arguing at all.

judging by your responses you are arguing for the sake of arguing, i have agreed with you like 5 different times now, i get that you play by metagaming , that is great. i play in the moment . my choice is destroy yours is refuse wonderful.

your only reason is because "he shuts off the crucible" that is great and all but you do not know that until after you pick refuse

No, I don't metagame either, but you keep saying he maybe lying, I'm saying based on whats presented infront of you at the moment, you have no reason to believe he is not lying, I don't need to metagame to know that any moment that an enemy offers to help, it seems fishy.

[babachewie]

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babachewie wrote...

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babachewie wrote...

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babachewie wrote...

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@BabaChewie

That's assuming he hasn't done anything to sabotage it, Hes an enemy, and why would he rise you up to the top of the crucible anyway, if anything Shep would had bleed out, it didn't look like they needed a new solution.

You're assuming he raised him up. 

He doesn't have to explain anything, he can obviously turn of the crucible as he does in refuse, its seems to fishy on why he would want to help you.

Why not? he just wants organics to not get wiped out. Each option keeps that from happening. Theres no reason to lie and again when it docked he said it "changed" him. Also it also depends on the EMS on how helpfull he is really. 

Exactly! You just proved my point, all the sudden he wants to play hero and want to find a new "solution" that will mean the cycle will survive, smells like bull to me.

Hes only really helpfully if synthesis is in the equation for obvious reasons. That his choice. Destroy and control arent so of course at lower EMS he's not gonna wanna help. He doesnt wanna be replaced or be destroyed. it goes against his programing. The cycle could repeat or get worst according to him with destroy and control. Synthesis is the only option he favors.

Again, in Refuse hes completely capable of turning off the crucible, Why not do it now, that way theres no risk. Just admit it, The catalyst flawed logic makes absolutely no sense and there is no reason to place your faith in him whatsoever.

there is no flawed logic. It was turned off because you didnt chose. And I already explained that that reason he even lets you choose is because no ones made it that far and someone will again regardless and the crucible docking changed it and made need a new plan. I mean there was so much you didnt know about the story or the crucible to begin with that me and one other cat had ot sit you down and break it down seaseme street style. You can go ahead and continue to live in your fantasy world. As long as you're happy then whatever but just know for those of us who actually paid attention you couldnt be anymore wrong.

Can you please write correct grammar thank you. Anyway, You just keep proving my point my point

You claim that the Catalyst wants to give you choices.
Why would he do that when he can outright turn off the Crucible, Why would your enemy help you when they are clearly winning the war, why does it explain you everything, wh doesn't he just shut the damn thing off.

Again, You refuse to understand what I'm trying to explain, you have no leg to stand on, and just continue to repeat the same thing instead of answering to my question and spill nonsense with incorrect grammar. Please, explain to me, how any of these things I just listed are not suspicious from an enemy, indulge me, 5th grader.

This keeps going in circles. I already explained everything you just asked countless times. You didnt listen or even pay attention. Then you just dive into Paranioa. Which is a indoctrination symptom. I can see now why you were dumb enough to choose the worst  choice. Refuse is the second choice the catalyst would want you to choose if not synthesis. So you did what it wanted anyway by believing you werent doin what it wanted. I'm not going in to all this again. You didnt understand Mass Effect. Especially Mass Effect 3. I mean Jesus some of the things I had to explain to you that you didnt even know, like the control option or the prothean infighting, most people already knew. So I'm not surprised you dont get it 

[ghost9191]

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ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

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ghost9191 wrote...

he comes more opposed to the ideas, all except synthesis, but he has tried that before. i don't hard to tell if it is lying if it is being forced by the crucible

like i have said if i do nothing and i was right i would feel a lot worse doing something and being wrong

garrus said it best in me1

Again, its show he can turn off the crucible, in matter of fact, why not lie and say that jumping in the beam will kill all reapers, its too fishy and there is no reason to trust him.

well i think the fact he doesnt say that if you jump in beam u blow reapers up shows he isn't lyiing. but i am not saying he is not lying but without metagaming my choice is destroy. it seems like the safer option , i am tempted by refuse like i have said, but i want to know there is a chance of winning first.

otherwise i will use the crucible. but i am not sure if the catalyst is lying or not   

I'm not arguing whether hes lying or not, I'm arguing how it is suspicious that he is helping you, if you can't even argue the root of what your talking about, please stop arguing at all.

judging by your responses you are arguing for the sake of arguing, i have agreed with you like 5 different times now, i get that you play by metagaming , that is great. i play in the moment . my choice is destroy yours is refuse wonderful.

your only reason is because "he shuts off the crucible" that is great and all but you do not know that until after you pick refuse

No, I don't metagame either, but you keep saying he maybe lying, I'm saying based on whats presented infront of you at the moment, you have no reason to believe he is not lying, I don't need to metagame to know that any moment that an enemy offers to help, it seems fishy.

so we are back at this, he doesn't need to lie , the only optioons he has influence on is synthesis, if he wasn't there, control and destroy would be still. just like if you don't have high ems , he doesn't help at , just talks and then says you have only one choice.    


the crucible influences him,. if you choose not to use it then there is no point to it so he disconnects is my guess

[The Genophage]

@BabaChewie

This is what I read, 'I CANSFE SEE WHYS YOU WERE DUMBS ENOUGHSS" dude settle down and answer the damn question, you have NEVER explained to me how anything I listed cannot be seen as suspicions

I admit you proved me the Prothean thing, but what we're talking about now is complete different, now will you answer the question or start spilling insults like a 5 year old brat because he can't back up his claims. Now explain how the following aren't suspicious.

"Why would he do that when he can outright turn off the Crucible, Why would your enemy help you when they are clearly winning the war, why does it explain you everything, wh doesn't he just shut the damn thing off" And don't tell me because the Protheans built it because like I said before, The catalyst can lie, now continue.

[The Genophage]

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

he comes more opposed to the ideas, all except synthesis, but he has tried that before. i don't hard to tell if it is lying if it is being forced by the crucible

like i have said if i do nothing and i was right i would feel a lot worse doing something and being wrong

garrus said it best in me1

Again, its show he can turn off the crucible, in matter of fact, why not lie and say that jumping in the beam will kill all reapers, its too fishy and there is no reason to trust him.

well i think the fact he doesnt say that if you jump in beam u blow reapers up shows he isn't lyiing. but i am not saying he is not lying but without metagaming my choice is destroy. it seems like the safer option , i am tempted by refuse like i have said, but i want to know there is a chance of winning first.

otherwise i will use the crucible. but i am not sure if the catalyst is lying or not   

I'm not arguing whether hes lying or not, I'm arguing how it is suspicious that he is helping you, if you can't even argue the root of what your talking about, please stop arguing at all.

judging by your responses you are arguing for the sake of arguing, i have agreed with you like 5 different times now, i get that you play by metagaming , that is great. i play in the moment . my choice is destroy yours is refuse wonderful.

your only reason is because "he shuts off the crucible" that is great and all but you do not know that until after you pick refuse

No, I don't metagame either, but you keep saying he maybe lying, I'm saying based on whats presented infront of you at the moment, you have no reason to believe he is not lying, I don't need to metagame to know that any moment that an enemy offers to help, it seems fishy.

so we are back at this, he doesn't need to lie , the only optioons he has influence on is synthesis, if he wasn't there, control and destroy would be still. just like if you don't have high ems , he doesn't help at , just talks and then says you have only one choice.    


the crucible influences him,. if you choose not to use it then there is no point to it so he disconnects is my guess

He doesn't need to lie, but he's giving you an option that will destroy him.

Am I the only one who finds it suspiscious that the Catalyst is explaining to you and even helping you, if Synthesis helps him like you said, why doesn't he lie by saying "jump to the beam to save humanity" You have no reason to put any faith on him, hes the enemy, whether the machine was built by him or not, he has more than enough motivation to lie.

[savionen]

Didn't meta. Thought Catalyst was lying, or at least... not EXACTLY telling the truth. You know where IT came from? From all the people that thought the Catalyst was full of ****.

[lillitheris]

wulf3n wrote...

lillitheris wrote... 
(Actually, even if you do assume it just blows up the entire Sol system, it’s still better than Refuse…)

what makes you so sure it's limited to the Sol system? You have no idea how big the blast will be, if there'll even be a blast.

Conservation of energy. But, then again, it’s remote enough a possibility that it’s not a factor.

[wulf3n]

lillitheris wrote...
Conservation of energy.

We're talking about a game world where an element can lower the mass of anything, and synthetics can be given dna. Anythings possible.

lillitheris wrote... 
But, then again, it’s remote enough a possibility that it’s not a factor.

But setting off a bomb and everything being hunky dory isn't remote 

[ghost9191]

@The Genophage

Idk dude, i didn't write it. All i know is that the crucible had a influence on the catalyst. why he answers all your questions? He is a ai, or a advanced vi, he answers questions. it dislikes control and destroy as shown, but favors synthesis. In endings with low ems he doesnt give you any choice.

so simply i believe the crucible changes him as it said, influences it. I see me choosing destroy as putting trust in our ppl that built the crucible. not the enemy. he wasn't the one that brought my shep to that place. and doesnt want shep there but has to accept it, just as he said he would have to accept shep taking his place. well a copy of shep

[SMichelle]

The Genophage wrote...

@BabaChewie

This is what I read, 'I CANSFE SEE WHYS YOU WERE DUMBS ENOUGHSS" dude settle down and answer the damn question, you have NEVER explained to me how anything I listed cannot be seen as suspicions

I admit you proved me the Prothean thing, but what we're talking about now is complete different, now will you answer the question or start spilling insults like a 5 year old brat because he can't back up his claims. Now explain how the following aren't suspicious.

"Why would he do that when he can outright turn off the Crucible, Why would your enemy help you when they are clearly winning the war, why does it explain you everything, wh doesn't he just shut the damn thing off" And don't tell me because the Protheans built it because like I said before, The catalyst can lie, now continue.

First, thanks for stopping the quote pyramid.  Second, how do you know he can turn off the Crucible?  (I'm not being snotty, I'm actually curious )

[ForThessia]

 i wonder why people who hate destroy cuz it kills the geth think killing everyone is better<_<

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

The Genophage wrote...]He doesn't need to lie, but he's giving you an option that will destroy him.

Am I the only one who finds it suspiscious that the Catalyst is explaining to you and even helping you, if Synthesis helps him like you said, why doesn't he lie by saying "jump to the beam to save humanity" You have no reason to put any faith on him, hes the enemy, whether the machine was built by him or not, he has more than enough motivation to lie.

Yes, you are.

And can we cut down the frakking quote pyramids. Two quotes take up almost a full page now.

The thing is a fraking machine. It's purpose is to prevent synthetics from wiping out organics. They've been doing this cycle/harvesting since before there were single cell organisms on earth.

* The Crucible was designed by a previous race to destroy the reapers several cycles ago
* The Control option was added by previous cycles.
* The Crucible is a piece of hardware. It is like if you put a new card in your computer that upgrades your video resolution. Now you can see things you couldn't before. Wow.
* The Catalyst has attempted synthesis before but has failed because it is a machine and doesn't have the ability to do it by itself.
* The Crucible showed it that it needs a living organic component to do synthesis. This is its solution to its problem. This is why it is promoting it.

* Destroy and Control were in the Crucible by design. Synthesis was added by the Catalyst. It operates on logic.

* You can pick one or go full retard and refuse. And what the f*** do you have to lose by shooting the red tube?

If I had written that the Reapers had been around for 2 billion years, and had done 40,000 cycles, and had 10,000 capital ships, and had two destroyers for every other race harvested in each cycle, so they could basically blot out the sun like Sovereign said, you would know that conventional victory was impossible. But no one knows exactly. We know it's over 1 billion years.

If this cycle had been 100% ready for the invasion, and had been preparing for the past 20 years for it instead of sitting on their thumbs playing politics maybe a conventional victory would have been possible, but given the state at the start of ME3 there is no way in hell any possibility of a conventional victory. Every military genius has stated that fact.

So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

[ghost9191]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The Genophage wrote...]He doesn't need to lie, but he's giving you an option that will destroy him.

Am I the only one who finds it suspiscious that the Catalyst is explaining to you and even helping you, if Synthesis helps him like you said, why doesn't he lie by saying "jump to the beam to save humanity" You have no reason to put any faith on him, hes the enemy, whether the machine was built by him or not, he has more than enough motivation to lie.

Yes, you are.

And can we cut down the frakking quote pyramids. Two quotes take up almost a full page now.

The thing is a fraking machine. It's purpose is to prevent synthetics from wiping out organics. They've been doing this cycle/harvesting since before there were single cell organisms on earth.

* The Crucible was designed by a previous race to destroy the reapers several cycles ago
* The Control option was added by previous cycles.
* The Crucible is a piece of hardware. It is like if you put a new card in your computer that upgrades your video resolution. Now you can see things you couldn't before. Wow.
* The Catalyst has attempted synthesis before but has failed because it is a machine and doesn't have the ability to do it by itself.
* The Crucible showed it that it needs a living organic component to do synthesis. This is its solution to its problem. This is why it is promoting it.

* Destroy and Control were in the Crucible by design. Synthesis was added by the Catalyst. It operates on logic.

* You can pick one or go full retard and refuse. And what the f*** do you have to lose by shooting the red tube?

If I had written that the Reapers had been around for 2 billion years, and had done 40,000 cycles, and had 10,000 capital ships, and had two destroyers for every other race harvested in each cycle, so they could basically blot out the sun like Sovereign said, you would know that conventional victory was impossible. But no one knows exactly. We know it's over 1 billion years.

If this cycle had been 100% ready for the invasion, and had been preparing for the past 20 years for it instead of sitting on their thumbs playing politics maybe a conventional victory would have been possible, but given the state at the start of ME3 there is no way in hell any possibility of a conventional victory. Every military genius has stated that fact.

So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

no offense but i am in love

by that i mean you did a much better job of explaining it

Modifié par ghost9191, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:06 .

[SMichelle]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

[babachewie]

The Genophage wrote...

@BabaChewie

This is what I read, 'I CANSFE SEE WHYS YOU WERE DUMBS ENOUGHSS" dude settle down and answer the damn question, you have NEVER explained to me how anything I listed cannot be seen as suspicions

I admit you proved me the Prothean thing, but what we're talking about now is complete different, now will you answer the question or start spilling insults like a 5 year old brat because he can't back up his claims. Now explain how the following aren't suspicious.

"Why would he do that when he can outright turn off the Crucible, Why would your enemy help you when they are clearly winning the war, why does it explain you everything, wh doesn't he just shut the damn thing off" And don't tell me because the Protheans built it because like I said before, The catalyst can lie, now continue.

Because he's not your enemy. It's not fighting a war in its eyes. Its doing a job it was programed to do. Which is to keep the Organics from being completely wiped out by synthtics. It doesnt have hate or love one way or another for you. In fact it thinks its saving you by turning you all into reapers and leaving primtives to linger.

And again, and Im gonna try to explain this so you can understand it, the reason it even lets you use the crucible is because when the crucible docked and interfaced with the catalyst, it altered it. Whatever the catalyst was before the crucible docked, it no longer is. Also because making it that far, to a place no organic has ever set foot, made it realize something. Thats its plan can no longer work. You proved it wrong. It even admits that humans are more resourceful than it gave us credit for. He thought the plans for the crucible were destroyed. Its open to a new plan as long as its better than the one he's using now. Which is what synthesis iin his eyes. He tells you about destroy cause obviously thats what it was originally meant to do. Why lie about it? At least you admit they were wining the war. Which makes your decision to refuse even more wrong if you knew that.

[babachewie]

SMichelle wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

I also agree with this. haha

[The Genophage]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

The Genophage wrote...]He doesn't need to lie, but he's giving you an option that will destroy him.

Am I the only one who finds it suspiscious that the Catalyst is explaining to you and even helping you, if Synthesis helps him like you said, why doesn't he lie by saying "jump to the beam to save humanity" You have no reason to put any faith on him, hes the enemy, whether the machine was built by him or not, he has more than enough motivation to lie.

Yes, you are.

And can we cut down the frakking quote pyramids. Two quotes take up almost a full page now.

The thing is a fraking machine. It's purpose is to prevent synthetics from wiping out organics. They've been doing this cycle/harvesting since before there were single cell organisms on earth.

* The Crucible was designed by a previous race to destroy the reapers several cycles ago
* The Control option was added by previous cycles.
* The Crucible is a piece of hardware. It is like if you put a new card in your computer that upgrades your video resolution. Now you can see things you couldn't before. Wow.
* The Catalyst has attempted synthesis before but has failed because it is a machine and doesn't have the ability to do it by itself.
* The Crucible showed it that it needs a living organic component to do synthesis. This is its solution to its problem. This is why it is promoting it.

* Destroy and Control were in the Crucible by design. Synthesis was added by the Catalyst. It operates on logic.

* You can pick one or go full retard and refuse. And what the f*** do you have to lose by shooting the red tube?

If I had written that the Reapers had been around for 2 billion years, and had done 40,000 cycles, and had 10,000 capital ships, and had two destroyers for every other race harvested in each cycle, so they could basically blot out the sun like Sovereign said, you would know that conventional victory was impossible. But no one knows exactly. We know it's over 1 billion years.

If this cycle had been 100% ready for the invasion, and had been preparing for the past 20 years for it instead of sitting on their thumbs playing politics maybe a conventional victory would have been possible, but given the state at the start of ME3 there is no way in hell any possibility of a conventional victory. Every military genius has stated that fact.

So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I'm copying this from a thread, from  a long time ago that I saw because I don't feel like explaining it myself, too long.

The reapers have been destroying organic life for aeons and has been pretty much destroying most of the galaxy in me3 and most of earth other then london why would you negoiate with this being when his reapers have been destroying the entire galaxy and most of earth and if you pay attention to the background before even picking one of his three forced options you can see his reapers killing your forces in the background while your talking to him or even before you make a choice


The Catalyst says that he is supposedly protecting us from synthetics yet they use the reaper code to take control over the geth to kill us instead of not simply shutting the geth down and if they're trying to save us why keep using the reapers who are essentially organic synthetics beings to keep killing us all the time if they're ment to save us from synthetics wouldn't make more sense to destroy the synthetics or to give organics warning of the danger of synthetics instead of constantly destroying them that isn't saving anybody

To me it would be like negoiating with terrorists I would never do that or someone who takes a gun and shoots me in the back but then promises you that he or she will save you more likely they will let you die or take you to some place where no one will ever find you.

Modifié par The Genophage, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:14 .

[The Genophage]

SMichelle wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

I also wish there was a scene that shows all the Geth falling to the floor, and Edi Dying asking joker why is this happening as she slowly disconnects from the world. You know...So people would get over their "sacrifices must be made" notion

Modifié par The Genophage, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:15 .

[The Genophage]

SMichelle wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

@BabaChewie

This is what I read, 'I CANSFE SEE WHYS YOU WERE DUMBS ENOUGHSS" dude settle down and answer the damn question, you have NEVER explained to me how anything I listed cannot be seen as suspicions

I admit you proved me the Prothean thing, but what we're talking about now is complete different, now will you answer the question or start spilling insults like a 5 year old brat because he can't back up his claims. Now explain how the following aren't suspicious.

"Why would he do that when he can outright turn off the Crucible, Why would your enemy help you when they are clearly winning the war, why does it explain you everything, wh doesn't he just shut the damn thing off" And don't tell me because the Protheans built it because like I said before, The catalyst can lie, now continue.

First, thanks for stopping the quote pyramid.  Second, how do you know he can turn off the Crucible?  (I'm not being snotty, I'm actually curious )

He does it when you choose Refusal.

[ghost9191]

The Genophage wrote...

SMichelle wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

I also wish there was a scene that shows all the Geth falling to the floor, and Edi Dying asking joker why is this happening as she slowly disconnects from the world. You know...So people would get over their "sacrifices must be made" notion

to be fair, i accept that, and at least that would give closure to the geth. now it is did they die, or did they simply lose the reaper upgrades. because there was nothing that showed the outcome of the geth being sacrificed:D

and as for edi, after watching her talk on youtube during the synthesis epilogue. i have kinda not felt the same way for her, i has been tainted. but she says herself she would rather die then live on her knees or whatever so i see that as a thumbs up

as for geth , i believe they be alive ( in game ) but i also see them as machines, they can be rebuilt,. and whatever you want to call it, genocide or casualty, they were a sacrifice

[The Genophage]

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

SMichelle wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

I also wish there was a scene that shows all the Geth falling to the floor, and Edi Dying asking joker why is this happening as she slowly disconnects from the world. You know...So people would get over their "sacrifices must be made" notion

to be fair, i accept that, and at least that would give closure to the geth. now it is did they die, or did they simply lose the reaper upgrades. because there was nothing that showed the outcome of the geth being sacrificed:D

and as for edi, after watching her talk on youtube during the synthesis epilogue. i have kinda not felt the same way for her, i has been tainted. but she says herself she would rather die then live on her knees or whatever so i see that as a thumbs up

as for geth , i believe they be alive ( in game ) but i also see them as machines, they can be rebuilt,. and whatever you want to call it, genocide or casualty, they were a sacrifice

That was not EDI talking, that was just....I don't know what that was. Also, as much as people will flame me fo this, I'm almost sure that many from this cycle, could have survived till the next via stasis pods.

[Shepardtheshepard]

ghost9191 wrote...

and as for edi, after watching her talk on youtube during the synthesis epilogue. i have kinda not felt the same way for her, i has been tainted. but she says herself she would rather die then live on her knees or whatever so i see that as a thumbs up

That's Joker's weekend plans ruined.

[Ryzaki]

The Genophage wrote...

SMichelle wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

I also wish there was a scene that shows all the Geth falling to the floor, and Edi Dying asking joker why is this happening as she slowly disconnects from the world. You know...So people would get over their "sacrifices must be made" notion

I actually would've loved seeing both.

*picks both endings*

Seeing everyone's last stands in refuse, people forced into Reapers, people committing suicide instead, a long dark slilence as the camera pans over their corpses and the new Reapers made from them, then a quick fade to black and a few seconds later of utterly silence broken with a triumphant crescendo and bright flash of light you see the next cycle completely and utterly own the Reapers without needing to listen to Starbrat's garbage or have him "graciously" offer their victory instead they take it themselves no need for his "aid". (Even better if they have synthetics helping them do this). Have Liara's words echoing in the background of the battle (which is laughably one sided against the Reapers favor) then cut to Stargazer.

And have Destroy show the synthetics dying, confusion, the loss of life from the technology but the galaxy rebuilding itself, Shep happily reunited (if Shep lived) and the galaxy moving on towards a brighter future.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:30 .

[ghost9191]

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

SMichelle wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...


So, if you want to refuse on principle because you don't trust this thing, I would have made the cutscene that kept Shepard alive and made him/her watch each and every crewmate and especially your love interest get processed in the refuse option, and watched this forum go up in flames.

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

I also wish there was a scene that shows all the Geth falling to the floor, and Edi Dying asking joker why is this happening as she slowly disconnects from the world. You know...So people would get over their "sacrifices must be made" notion

to be fair, i accept that, and at least that would give closure to the geth. now it is did they die, or did they simply lose the reaper upgrades. because there was nothing that showed the outcome of the geth being sacrificed:D

and as for edi, after watching her talk on youtube during the synthesis epilogue. i have kinda not felt the same way for her, i has been tainted. but she says herself she would rather die then live on her knees or whatever so i see that as a thumbs up

as for geth , i believe they be alive ( in game ) but i also see them as machines, they can be rebuilt,. and whatever you want to call it, genocide or casualty, they were a sacrifice

That was not EDI talking, that was just....I don't know what that was. Also, as much as people will flame me fo this, I'm almost sure that many from this cycle, could have survived till the next via stasis pods.

agree, that is what i meant by edi's talk, just not the same as she use to be. i mean she said it was because of shep sshe felt alive. but then she only felt alive because of synthesis, screw that

and i also agree about the stasis pods and what not. i mean like liara says " it would be easy for a single ship to get lost up there"    i mean send a ship like a "ark"  out without any info on it's destination. i mean asari live for a thousand years, they could wait it out, bring humans and other races too. 1 male and 1 female. we could go biblical on the reapers asses

Modifié par ghost9191, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:31 .

[SMichelle]

The Genophage wrote...

SMichelle wrote...

I really wish BioWare had done that.  Perhaps then people would get over their romantic notion of "dying free".

I also wish there was a scene that shows all the Geth falling to the floor, and Edi Dying asking joker why is this happening as she slowly disconnects from the world. You know...So people would get over their "sacrifices must be made" notion

I like that idea.  As it stands now all you see is EDI's name on the memorial. 

But honestly, although my Shepard could never justify not using the Crucible, the thought of watching Garrus, Joker, Kaidan et. all be turned into goo