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[arial]

The Genophage wrote...

@Arial

Shepard lives on synthetic implants, so how is he alive?

ever heard of a vegatative state? this would be why in EC we only got a shot of him breathing and not reuniteing with everyone, without his implants to assist him he has entered a vegatative state

[What a Succulent Ass]

Yo, am I being trolled, because I have a strong suspicion I am being trolled.

[The Genophage]

arial wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

@Arial

Shepard lives on synthetic implants, so how is he alive?

ever heard of a vegatative state? this would be why in EC we only got a shot of him breathing and not reuniteing with everyone, without his implants to assist him he has entered a vegatative state

Bull, he would die in a spot, also, how come Ashley not dead, she also has artificial implants?

[Ageless Face]

Huh. You know that, while destroying the reapers in destroy, you are "submitting" to the catalyst as much as control and synthesis (BTW, it's taking his word about the Crucible. Not really any kind of submission here).

Only reject is truly rejecting the catalyst. And the Crucible. Though I don't like the choice myself, we can't ignore the truth.

[KingZayd]

lillitheris wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Giving the Citadel the extra power required for destroying the Reapers. Doesn't explain why the Starchild lets you.
If the Crucible is the means of Reaper destruction rather than just the "battery", then the Starchild is lying.

There’s a bit in its programming where it is required to seek alternatives when an organic life form succeeds in penetrating the inner sanctum of the Citadel.

The Crucible is built as a weapon…one that can attach into the Citadel, because they know it can be used to disperse the effect throughout the relay network. So, yeah, the Crucible is full of purely destructive energy, unless modulated.

So the Starchild is being dishonest?

It’s being imprecise.

Calling a weapon that can destroy the Reapers "little more than a power source" is being dishonest.

[arial]

The Genophage wrote...

arial wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

@Arial

Shepard lives on synthetic implants, so how is he alive?

ever heard of a vegatative state? this would be why in EC we only got a shot of him breathing and not reuniteing with everyone, without his implants to assist him he has entered a vegatative state

Bull, he would die in a spot, also, how come Ashley not dead, she also has artificial implants?

not the same kind of Implants, not even close

[Shepardtheshepard]

arial wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

arial wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

@Arial

Shepard lives on synthetic implants, so how is he alive?

ever heard of a vegatative state? this would be why in EC we only got a shot of him breathing and not reuniteing with everyone, without his implants to assist him he has entered a vegatative state

Bull, he would die in a spot, also, how come Ashley not dead, she also has artificial implants?

not the same kind of Implants, not even close

Hold on. Are we talking the boob job or something else in the story that I missed?

[lillitheris]

HagarIshay wrote...

Only reject is truly rejecting the catalyst.

N-uh.

[The Genophage]

arial wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

arial wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

@Arial

Shepard lives on synthetic implants, so how is he alive?

ever heard of a vegatative state? this would be why in EC we only got a shot of him breathing and not reuniteing with everyone, without his implants to assist him he has entered a vegatative state

Bull, he would die in a spot, also, how come Ashley not dead, she also has artificial implants?

not the same kind of Implants, not even close

Either way, we know the condition that Shepard was in when he was recovered, he can life without those implants, not even in "vegetarian" state, the catalyst is a liar and unless you metagame you shouldn't have a reason to believe anything he says.

[Whatever42]

Destroy is the ultimate rejection of the Catalyst, I agree.

Unfortunately, it dooms all organic life. Sad.

[ghost9191]

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

[lillitheris]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Destroy is the ultimate rejection of the Catalyst, I agree.

Unfortunately, it dooms all organic life. Sad.

Eh, maybe.

[arial]

ghost9191 wrote...

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

exactly!

good to see someone else here understands

here man, have a sandwich

[ghost9191]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Destroy is the ultimate rejection of the Catalyst, I agree.

Unfortunately, it dooms all organic life. Sad.

want to buy evidence?

[The Genophage]

ghost9191 wrote...

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

You must not know the definition of Genocide.

[ghost9191]

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

You must not know the definition of Genocide.

anyone with access to the internet knows what the definition of genocide is. you gonna make a point or ask questions out on ignorance <_<

[wantedman dan]

ghost9191 wrote...

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

So basically stoop to the level of the Reapers to beat them, thus becoming just as inherently evil.

[lillitheris]

ghost9191 wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

Destroy is the ultimate rejection of the Catalyst, I agree.

Unfortunately, it dooms all organic life. Sad.

want to buy evidence?

Well, you do have to consider the possibility that the Catalyst is correct about a significant threat posed by singularity.

(It obviously cannot be an absolute truth, since the future is unknown.)

[wantedman dan]

lillitheris wrote...

Well, you do have to consider the possibility that the Catalyst is correct about a significant threat posed by singularity.

(It obviously cannot be an absolute truth, since the future is unknown.)

The key words in that statement.

[The Genophage]

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

You must not know the definition of Genocide.

anyone with access to the internet knows what the definition of genocide is. you gonna make a point or ask questions out on ignorance <_<

No you don't, because your still calling the Geth "a sacrifice of war"

[ghost9191]

wantedman dan wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

So basically stoop to the level of the Reapers to beat them, thus becoming just as inherently evil.

pretty sure you know where i am coming from then?   i am not saying which one is better , just that you do commit genocide with refusal for the same reasons with destroy. you do not know 100% if it will destroy the geth. you are taking a chance with it

same as refuse, there is no gurantee you will win or lose. pretty high chance of losing though. which by your actions in refusal, or inactions, you will get  billions killed. even if you end up winning it will still cost the lives of perhaps millions. which is genocide.

[lillitheris]

wantedman dan wrote...

So basically stoop to the level of the Reapers to beat them, thus becoming just as inherently evil.

Inherent. You keep using that word, but etc.

It’s a hard decision, but not inherently evil. Certainly less so than directly and knowingly causing the deaths of all sapient life through inaction.

[ghost9191]

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

The Genophage wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

just gonna say love how ppl say they refuse so they don't kill the geth, news flash everyone. the geth die in refuse along with every other race. and don't give that metagaming bs because going in you know damn well you can't win

you just sacrificed most of your resources to get the crucible docked and you can see your ships getting blown up. the crucible changed the catalyst and it is obvious that it doesn't want you to to pick destroy

not saying which is better but don't say you at least don't commit genocide on the geth., because in destroy the geth are a casualty of war and a sacrifice for the many, whereas in refuse they just death is pointless

but that is me

You must not know the definition of Genocide.

anyone with access to the internet knows what the definition of genocide is. you gonna make a point or ask questions out on ignorance <_<

No you don't, because your still calling the Geth "a sacrifice of war"

no i called the geth a casualty of war. they are a sacrifice for the many, in destroy the destroying the geth is genocide. but it is done to save the many. in refusal you don't achieve anything with their deaths, other then to give the next cycle the cahne to use the crucible or a conventional victory

[wantedman dan]

lillitheris wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

So basically stoop to the level of the Reapers to beat them, thus becoming just as inherently evil.

Inherent. You keep using that word, but etc.

It’s a hard decision, but not inherently evil. Certainly less so than directly and knowingly causing the deaths of all sapient life through inaction.

To commit genocide is to make you inherently evil. To refuse to and have your principles remain intact, not so much.