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[Andrew Leung]

Hey guys! Reopening this for a few hours. Thomas is super busy being awesome today so I'll be fielding any questions you toss into this thread. Cheers.

[Andrew Leung]

Charaxan wrote...
BUT : I wrote here because I have some questions : 

1 : Will it be possible one day to kick someone from in game ? It would be great to fight against the cheaters (not the reapers, the cheaters !)
2 : will it be possible one day to ban someone from our lobbies ? I host most of my parties and I don't want to go private only for one or two cheaters (more and more, I know...)
(banlists could be shared from hosts to hosts, in ME3 or through a txt/ini file shared on the forum)

3 : I know this is an old debate, but : I know you have two teams, one for the bug and one for the bans. So when people ask "please correct bugs instead of loosing time banning people", you answer "those are two different teams so there is no lost of time".  But I don't understand why you don't spend the money for the "bug" team only. The faster the bugs are gone, the lesser cheater there is and you don't pay a team only to compulse logs and complain (not to say "denouncement"...) 
AND, if you allow hosts to ban people from their lobbies, and to kick from IG, you don't need ban as the cheaters will finaly play only with themselves and problem solve. 


Point 3 is very important to me : it is about effectiveness more than ideals or anythings. I think we all should be proactives on this, developers and honests players.

But of course, it is my humble opinion only.

1. It is a possiblity, although there would also have to be countermeasures in place to make sure it is not abused.

2. Also a possibility but I can't say for certain.

3. Fixing bugs is also not a linear process, you cannot toss 20% more people onto the team and expect it to go 20% faster.

If players are able to kick/ban other players from their games it can help isolate cheaters but it doesn't make cheating okay. While bugs get fixed and issues investigated: cheaters, exploiters and any other wrongdoers still need to be policed and punished.

[Andrew Leung]

Wordlywisewiz wrote...

When we get banned are we banned from all EA games? Or just ME3? And is it permanent?
What if you notice we did the missle glitch but then had a large sum of money you made without cheating saved for the DLC that is greater than the amount you glitched to get would you just wipe their credits?

If you have received a ban from ME3, it is only from ME3 multiplayer. You are still able to play singleplayer and should have access to all your other EA online games. Yes, the ME3 ban is permanent unless you appeal to me3accountadmin@bioware.com and we find you innocent of any wrongdoing.

People who do report themselves for cheating prior to ban waves generally do recieve a lighter sentencing.

[Andrew Leung]

Wordlywisewiz wrote...

See when you say punish don't you think you should maybe look into your cheating procedures a little more like for example warn the person about it and say look your not gonna be able yo participate in the weekend event..

Then if they are a repeat offender ban them..
Some people might not know what they are doing is wrong 

Cheaters are 99% of the time aware of what they are doing and are aware that is it wrong. We do check for multiple offenses, which is why people are able to stay within a single game with cheaters and not suffer reprecussions.

[Andrew Leung]

Mgamerz wrote...

If you have a game that is not cheating but is modded (e.g. platinum mod essentially), and changed the XP multipliers so you got the same or less than normal XP on gold, played private only, is that considered cheating? I can understand being banned on public, ruins the game for people. On private though I am not sure how that is bad, though I guess you still have corporate policy .... :/

Mods in general are not allowed at this point in time.

On a side note, I am excited for repeatedly failing in Platinum on Tuesday.

Modifié par Andrew Leung, 13 juillet 2012 - 11:09 .

[Thomas Abram]

Nasulprak wrote...

Andrew Leung wrote...

Mgamerz wrote...

If you have a game that is not cheating but is modded (e.g. platinum mod essentially), and changed the XP multipliers so you got the same or less than normal XP on gold, played private only, is that considered cheating? I can understand being banned on public, ruins the game for people. On private though I am not sure how that is bad, though I guess you still have corporate policy .... :/

Mods in general are not allowed at this point in time.

On a side note, I am excited for repeatedly failing in Platinum on Tuesday.

Modifications can be fun an enlightening.
I could see some people tweaking .ini files and what not to see what happens, and how it changes things, and gain more insite to the way damage is calculated, or more effeciency, or hit locations or... etc...

Is it possible at some time to have have some "Wildlands" that give no EXP, no credits, but odd things would be unbannable?  Maybe you could choose from Public, Private, and UnRewarded.

Then they can restore default settings, and play the vanilla/latest version with insight they learned from exploring different things earlier.

We've made it clear that we are reviewing this position and if it does change we will notify everyone.

Locking 'er down. I'll try to get it up and running late this weekend. As always, feel free to PM me your questions - I'll post a full "pm questionaire" early next week.

Open for business!

Modifié par Thomas Abram, 15 juillet 2012 - 09:26 .

[Thomas Abram]

Josh.de wrote...

Silent Rage wrote...

Do people get banned for missile glitching or just suspended or credits and stats wiped? I had a disagreement with a friend about this. I said probably suspended he said banned. Banning seems kinda extreme for a glitch thats ridiculously easy to do and shouldn't even be in the game it's not hacking or modding.

Your console will be locked down, your friends too.


Ok, joking :-)


A glitch like these is Biowares own created problem, they CAN´T ban, suspend or wipe stats of anyone for this, if they do so, please write it down here.
That would be another legally issue to talk about... they can´t prove to anyone that the player did any glitch intended, so until they prove the player did it intentionally, any player is innocent.
IF they would ban, suspend, etc. they would interfere in any given democratic constitution. Better and less expensive they fix their great and unique, but broken game.

Quoting both of you so we don't get two seperate conversations on the same topic.

As Andrew and Ernest have mentioned it all depends on the case. If someone has used it a single time because they were curious or didn't know that it was considered cheating then a lot of the time we will just send out a warning (which is done at the same time as a ban wave).

If someone performs this exploit dozens of times and is reported countless times then we'll look into reprimanding them appropriately, this could mean the removal of their multiplayer access, the wiping of their manifest, removal of credits, etc. depending on the severity.

[Thomas Abram]

Kasrkin wrote...

Dude, it's Sunday! Tell me that you're dialed in through a VPN or something?

Working on a Sunday ; ;

Nah, I'm at home. I don't consider this "work." I think it's important to keep dialogue open between developers and fans and that's what I'm trying to do.

[Thomas Abram]

Locking it down for the night. I'll try to reopen it tomorrow.

[Ernest Tse]

This is now opened and I will try my best to address any questions.

[Ernest Tse]

At the moment we consider force-spawning a clever use of in-game mechanics.

[Ernest Tse]

Whether credits are deducted or wiped depends case by case.

Modifié par Ernest Tse, 16 juillet 2012 - 09:46 .

[Ernest Tse]

NikkoJT wrote...

Is successfully kicking a cheater or glitcher considered an acceptable alternative to leaving the lobby? It can be hard trying to get back together with a PUG you particularly enjoyed playing with.

Now for the requisite OT question: How often is the Batarian Heavy Melee described as a Brofist or Falcon Punch at BW HQ?

Successfully kicking a cheater or glitcher to stay in game with desired players is acceptable.

[Ernest Tse]

locking this down for the night.