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[Ice Eyes]

This is my theory: Bioware did not have enough time to finish Mass Effect 3 because of pressure from EA to meet the deadline, that's why the original endings were really bad. So the Extended Cut is actually what Bioware had wanted the endings to be originally and obviously wanted to complete the endings - which is why Bioware listened to the fans at all.

Unfortunately the Extended Cut did not fix that bug where, in the Refusal option, the Paragon/Renegade dialogue options do not show up (even if you have max EMS, peace between Geth/Quarians etc). A concept of what the idea would look like is linked in my sig

[ld1449]

o Ventus wrote...


I felt the same. That podcast was abominable. 

The day can't come soon enough when Casey and Mac aren't in leading positions.

Oh keep reading. I provide clarity and closure on that issue. They're gone.

[Oilking72]

I think the only ones in denial are the people on this board that think that Bioware will spend one single cent and one more iota of time on anything to do with the ending of this Trilogy.

It's put up or shut up time, boys and girls. If you hate it and everything Bioware's "becoming", then I think it's time to pack up and go. I'm not saying you have to as anyone has the right to waste any amount of the lives as they see fit, but your time in the sun where throwing a tantrum gets them to do something is gone.

[ld1449]

By the way.Off topic I know so my bad. Anyone think we might hear anything at Comic Con? (12th-15th)

[o Ventus]

ld1449 wrote...

By the way.Off topic I know so my bad. Anyone think we might hear anything at Comic Con? (12th-15th)

Didn't Bioware already say they had planned to announce something at Comic Con? Since the EC is out, my guess is it's either the Leviathan DLC or DA3.

[Memnon]

I think there's a difference between denial and spin - they have to have some kind of metrics which told them the endings were tanking with the general public, otherwise we wouldn't have had the EC. Giving us spin that things weren't as poorly received as we think is nothing new, though - I've used this example a few times, but for those who play (or played) TOR know this well, especially re: Ilum. The folks complaining here are always accused of being the vocal minority, where the majority of the people who enjoy the game are happily in game, and not here complaining ... in the end they scrapped the Ilum dailies. So they will spin and spin, and spin to even try to influence the metrics, but in the end you can't ignore the data. Well, I guess you can but it's not in your best interest ...

[asagishepherd]

Oilking72 wrote...

I think the only ones in denial are the people on this board that think that Bioware will spend one single cent and one more iota of time on anything to do with the ending of this Trilogy.

It's put up or shut up time, boys and girls. If you hate it and everything Bioware's "becoming", then I think it's time to pack up and go. I'm not saying you have to as anyone has the right to waste any amount of the lives as they see fit, but your time in the sun where throwing a tantrum gets them to do something is gone.

An yet here you are wasting your life giving your opinion??? Do you know what forums are used for? Do you need "Clarification"?

Give you a hint....... Feedback maybe? Maybe the developers would like to know where they went wrong or what they did right?

And maybe, just maybe, some people like to have discussions about said topics.

Do you understand now? Or should i do an EC for you?

[Brovikk Rasputin]

Oilking72 wrote...

I think the only ones in denial are the people on this board that think that Bioware will spend one single cent and one more iota of time on anything to do with the ending of this Trilogy.

It's put up or shut up time, boys and girls. If you hate it and everything Bioware's "becoming", then I think it's time to pack up and go. I'm not saying you have to as anyone has the right to waste any amount of the lives as they see fit, but your time in the sun where throwing a tantrum gets them to do something is gone.

Don't bother. Many people have been saying what you just said for months, and they're not listening. At this point, the best thing that could happen would be if BIoware went out and said "No more ending DLC. Ever."

[FlyingSquirrel]

StevenG_CT wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

What is this post Weekes made? What does it contain? Can't believe I've never heard of it

Here's a link to an article about the post: http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

Isn't it disputed whether or not Weekes actually wrote this?

[BDelacroix]

The fact that some people like the end means it must be good in at least some circles. Perhaps it made total sense to them. They may be just as perplexed that we don't like them.

I put a bit of that in with a bit of wanting a non mainstream end and a bit of ego. Can't get away from ego entirely. It was their choice. They gambled and lost with some of us.

[SwitchN7]

Op think too much.Just enjoy the games

[cavs25]

75 perfect scores bro....the ending is a master piece of artistic integrity and speculations.

[tamperous]

They know it's bad, but the leadership needs to save face.

In other news, the ghosts of Stalin and Molotov appeared in a podcast with Jessica Merizan and were quoted as saying that the Soviet-German non-aggression pact of 1939 was an unqualified success for the Soviet Union and Socialism.

[Cloaking_Thane]

If only DK didn't work on a diff project mid stream-----what might have been. Dark Energy plot would have at least made sense in the end

[ld1449]

FlyingSquirrel wrote...

StevenG_CT wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

What is this post Weekes made? What does it contain? Can't believe I've never heard of it

Here's a link to an article about the post: http://www.gameranx....versial-ending/

Isn't it disputed whether or not Weekes actually wrote this?

Wether he wrote it or not, I've yet to hear a single statement from either him or Chris priestly claiming it to be FALSE.

None of the writers want to be anywhere near this ****storm. Saying I didn't write it isn't the same as saying its not true. It just implies it while not actually saying the words. Which if they did say would imply to the bosses that the entire team was responsible for this and they'd all be facing demotion at least like Mac and Casey or the chopping block.

[ld1449]

BDelacroix wrote...

The fact that some people like the end means it must be good in at least some circles. Perhaps it made total sense to them. They may be just as perplexed that we don't like them.

I put a bit of that in with a bit of wanting a non mainstream end and a bit of ego. Can't get away from ego entirely. It was their choice. They gambled and lost with some of us.

Well when you sell X million copies you're bound to hit it right with SOMEONE.

[Memnon]

BDelacroix wrote...

The fact that some people like the end means it must be good in at least some circles. Perhaps it made total sense to them. They may be just as perplexed that we don't like them.

I put a bit of that in with a bit of wanting a non mainstream end and a bit of ego. Can't get away from ego entirely. It was their choice. They gambled and lost with some of us.

I have a hypothetical question - I'm going to use made up numbers for the sake of argument here. If you make a game and 95 out of 100 people absolutely loved and adored to the point where it established a franchise, birthed a huge fan base and spawned sequels would that be a success? If you then made a sequel and of the 100 people that bought it, only 30 people loved it, is that game a success? Just because some people liked the ending doesn't mean it was a good game - I don't know what metrics they have, but I can bet they aren't good otherwise they would not have spent months building free DLC simply to explain the endings

[Brovikk Rasputin]

ld1449 wrote...

BDelacroix wrote...

The fact that some people like the end means it must be good in at least some circles. Perhaps it made total sense to them. They may be just as perplexed that we don't like them.

I put a bit of that in with a bit of wanting a non mainstream end and a bit of ego. Can't get away from ego entirely. It was their choice. They gambled and lost with some of us.

Well when you sell X million copies you're bound to hit it right with SOMEONE.

After the EC, most people are happy witht the game. Just take a look around the internets.

[Obadiah]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

maaaze wrote...

I think people are in denial that the ending was actually pretty good... it just went over their heads...or they did not liked what it represents...which is arguable.

I would argue that it couldn't go over you head if you hated the ending. At first glance the ending is terrible, but as you start thinking about it, it gets even worse. Like Kotaku said, the more you understand the lore and the ending, the worse the ending gets.

I don't think so. If they ever release a "Shepard Defeats the Reapers Conventially, and All Teammates Survive, and Races Rebuild Destruction and Live Happily Every After" ending, all this nitpicking of the ending will go away.

I just got through playing Mass Effect 2, and that can be torn apart almost as easily as people are doing here. But it wasn't (not like ME3 is) because players could get a happy ending.

Modifié par Obadiah, 05 juillet 2012 - 03:15 .

[o Ventus]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

BDelacroix wrote...

The fact that some people like the end means it must be good in at least some circles. Perhaps it made total sense to them. They may be just as perplexed that we don't like them.

I put a bit of that in with a bit of wanting a non mainstream end and a bit of ego. Can't get away from ego entirely. It was their choice. They gambled and lost with some of us.

Well when you sell X million copies you're bound to hit it right with SOMEONE.

After the EC, most people are happy witht the game. Just take a look around the internets.

It's hardly "most people". Hell, on BSN alone the opinion is still split.

[ld1449]

o Ventus wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

By the way.Off topic I know so my bad. Anyone think we might hear anything at Comic Con? (12th-15th)

Didn't Bioware already say they had planned to announce something at Comic Con? Since the EC is out, my guess is it's either the Leviathan DLC or DA3.

They did??? Didn't know that.

And they'd be idiots to announce DA3 now.

What was the last game that had a 1 year and 6 month development period?

Yeah...

[Obadiah]

o Ventus wrote...
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It's hardly "most people". Hell, on BSN alone the opinion is still split.

You are probably correct as far as BSN goes, but BSN is not most people.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

o Ventus wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

BDelacroix wrote...

The fact that some people like the end means it must be good in at least some circles. Perhaps it made total sense to them. They may be just as perplexed that we don't like them.

I put a bit of that in with a bit of wanting a non mainstream end and a bit of ego. Can't get away from ego entirely. It was their choice. They gambled and lost with some of us.

Well when you sell X million copies you're bound to hit it right with SOMEONE.

After the EC, most people are happy witht the game. Just take a look around the internets.

It's hardly "most people". Hell, on BSN alone the opinion is still split.

But that's BSN. Take a look around the internet. Facebook, Twitter, other gaming sites. Most people are satisfied.

[Memnon]

Obadiah wrote...

o Ventus wrote...
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It's hardly "most people". Hell, on BSN alone the opinion is still split.

You are probably correct as far as BSN goes, but BSN is not most people.

If BSN were the only ones who hated the endings, would they have made the EC to begin with?

[asagishepherd]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

BDelacroix wrote...

The fact that some people like the end means it must be good in at least some circles. Perhaps it made total sense to them. They may be just as perplexed that we don't like them.

I put a bit of that in with a bit of wanting a non mainstream end and a bit of ego. Can't get away from ego entirely. It was their choice. They gambled and lost with some of us.

Well when you sell X million copies you're bound to hit it right with SOMEONE.

After the EC, most people are happy witht the game. Just take a look around the internets.

The people still interested might be happy with it. My opinion.

What you say may be true but don't make it as fact. Its your opinion.