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Do you think the devs are in hardcore denial that the ending was terrible, or that they do know?


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"This gets my worst rating ever: Seven thumbs up!"

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I think they've decided to stand by their work, and stop catering to people that will never be happy anyways. Hopefully they're working on some awesome DLC. A smart decision.

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a bit of both

Modifié par KingZayd, 05 juillet 2012 - 12:44 .


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maaaze wrote...

I think people are in denial that the ending was actually pretty good... it just went over their heads...or they did not liked what it represents...which is arguable.


I would argue that it couldn't go over you head if you hated the ending. At first glance the ending is terrible, but as you start thinking about it, it gets even worse. Like Kotaku said, the more you understand the lore and the ending, the worse the ending gets.

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At first glance the ending is terrible, but as you start thinking about it, it gets even worse.


Pretty much sums it up.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I think they've decided to stand by their work, and stop catering to people that will never be happy anyways. Hopefully they're working on some awesome DLC. A smart decision.


Can I take that to mean that if they, in a hypothetical scenario, did change the ending to remove ye olde StarChilde, you would remain satisfied with Mass Effect? 

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maaaze wrote...

I think people are in denial that the ending was actually pretty good... it just went over their heads...or they did not liked what it represents...which is arguable.


LOL

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KevShep wrote...

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I personally think Casey and Mac are in denial, and that %70+ don't like it and can't do anything about it.

It's pretty clear those two are in some serious denial however.

Was it ever confirmed that only those two wrote the ending if so wow that is sad that they didn't bother to get feedback from their team of amazing writers but those two are in denial or have too much pride to admit they were wrong


Drew K. was the one that did ME1 and 2 and then moved to Star Wars MMO.

Thats when Casey H. CHANGED what Drew had in store with the plot by creating his own plot. Thats why the crucible came out of nowhere and why ME2 adds nothing to the overall plot now!

Drew K. had some big plans in store with ME3 but thanks to Casey H. that didnt happen!



I was under the impression that the change in plot in ME3 was due to the original script getting publically leaked. They couldn't then continue with Drew's dark energy storyline and had to rewrite to suit.

If so, I wouldn't blame Casey for that. Well, unless he was the one that left it on a train seat or something....

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I think they've decided to stand by their work, and stop catering to people that will never be happy anyways. Hopefully they're working on some awesome DLC. A smart decision.


Can I take that to mean that if they, in a hypothetical scenario, did change the ending to remove ye olde StarChilde, you would remain satisfied with Mass Effect? 

No, because I don't want them to change the ending.

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No they're not in denial. They just have a different opinion on how the endings are/ were received. I loved ME3 for instance, but that's my opinion too.

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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...


Can I take that to mean that if they, in a hypothetical scenario, did change the ending to remove ye olde StarChilde, you would remain satisfied with Mass Effect? 

No, because I don't want them to change the ending.


So would you post about your dissatisfaction or move on?

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macrocarl wrote...

No they're not in denial. They just have a different opinion on how the endings are/ were received. I loved ME3 for instance, but that's my opinion too.


I'm glad the head writers are happy with what they created while Bioware lays off their employees.

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What data shows "the majority don't like the ending"?

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...


Can I take that to mean that if they, in a hypothetical scenario, did change the ending to remove ye olde StarChilde, you would remain satisfied with Mass Effect? 

No, because I don't want them to change the ending.


So would you post about your dissatisfaction or move on?

I would tell Bioware how dissapointed I was in a short message, leave the forums and then move on to something else. I wouldn't spend hours every day on here whining about it and telling them to remove the new ending. Hopefully, it will never come to that. I trust that Bioware won't listen to these people.

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Indeed, we need a full poll of all players with a straightforward question.

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[quote]Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

[quote]SpamBot2000 wrote...

[quote]Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I would tell Bioware how dissapointed I was in a short message, leave the forums and then move on to something else. I wouldn't spend hours every day on here whining about it and telling them to remove the new ending. Hopefully, it will never come to that. I trust that Bioware won't listen to these people.[/quote]


So why are you here for hours every day telling everyone who didn't like it to shut up?

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:40 .


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Master Che wrote...

What data shows "the majority don't like the ending"?

These people probably only read threads on BSN. If they looked around the internet, they'd find out that the rest of the world has moved on and many people like the endings after the EC.

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I would tell Bioware how dissapointed I was in a short message, leave the forums and then move on to something else. I wouldn't spend hours every day on here whining about it and telling them to remove the new ending. Hopefully, it will never come to that. I trust that Bioware won't listen to these people.


So why are you here for hours every day telling everyone who didn't like it to shut up?

Because I don't want Bioware to think that this is what everyone wants.

Modifié par Brovikk Rasputin, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:44 .


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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Master Che wrote...

What data shows "the majority don't like the ending"?

These people probably only read threads on BSN. If they looked around the internet, they'd find out that the rest of the world has moved on and many people like the endings after the EC.


"Everybody that hated it should just move on."

"Here's a poll from people that didn't move on."

The only actual poll I've seen is the Facebook one, and it was simply about expectations of the EC. Bioware likes to skew everything in their own favor, it's called PR.  They wrote that poll in a way that it's skewed extremely positive, the same way you're using it in that other thread. They re-posted it on Twitter so they can be like "OMG 90% of people liked the EC"

The EC was made for people who were in the middle. Either they disliked the endings slightly, or already liked the endings at least moderately.

The best representation of like/dislike IMO will be how well the DLC sells.

Modifié par savionen, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:47 .


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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I would tell Bioware how dissapointed I was in a short message, leave the forums and then move on to something else. I wouldn't spend hours every day on here whining about it and telling them to remove the new ending. Hopefully, it will never come to that. I trust that Bioware won't listen to these people.


So why are you here for hours every day telling everyone who didn't like it to shut up?

Because I don't want Bioware to think that this is what everyone wants.


And there you have it.

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I would tell Bioware how dissapointed I was in a short message, leave the forums and then move on to something else. I wouldn't spend hours every day on here whining about it and telling them to remove the new ending. Hopefully, it will never come to that. I trust that Bioware won't listen to these people.


So why are you here for hours every day telling everyone who didn't like it to shut up?

Because I don't want Bioware to think that this is what everyone wants.


And there you have it.

Not really. What I'm asking for won't cost them money and it won't cost them time either. 

What the complainers want, is something that would take both money and time. Money and time that could be spent on other stuff. 

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I don't see many people on here saying "OMG go rewrite the endings again." They're stating their opinions on the endings.

I have absolutely no expectations that they'll rewrite the endings again. The best case scenario would be them adding some DLC compotents that will alter the endings slightly. Like Leviathan of Dis adding more dialogue with the Catalyst related to the Reapers.

Modifié par savionen, 05 juillet 2012 - 01:49 .


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Cutting out the StarBoy is somehow hugely expensive?

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savionen wrote...

I don't see many people on here saying "OMG go rewrite the endings again." They're stating their opinions on the endings.

I have absolutely no expectations that they'll rewrite the endings again. The best case scenario would be them adding some DLC compotents that will alter the endings slightly.

Then you're not really paying attention. There's multiple threads on the first page of this forum alone, where people are asking for new endings / changes to the current endings / a total rewrite. 

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Cutting out the StarBoy is somehow hugely expensive?

How would you make the last choice without the Catalyst?