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[greghorvath]

red_ryder wrote...

Tell me if I'm a bad player or if this is to be expected. I'm playing as a lvl 17 human infiltrator on bronze with a Claymore III. The other 3 guys are soldiers, all about the same level.

As an experiment I wasn't doing any support work, and I tried my damnedest to get as many kills as possible. At the end, the scores were 41K, 39K, 37K and I had 22K.

I know the mantra about ignoring the scores and having fun, blah blah blah. But when I get scores so much lower than the other players I can't help feeling I'm doing something wrong. And then my fun level goes down.

Infiltrators shine on gold. I can only say infiltrators do not perform so well in lower difficulties. Soldiers spam concussive shot and shoot all the time while you have to find and enemy and you have to reach them to be effective. Before you do, however, concussive shot or a few shots in AR have already killed the enemy. You have a long range power that has a long cooldown and grenades that are not precision weapons. Just keep playing and don't worry about the score. 

I used to think score mattered. The cahange in this came about 3 days ago, when suddenly I just did not care about coming third in a match any more. Since then I have been liberated and would be playing for fun if I hadn't been really pissed off by a very bad streak of bugginess yesterday...

When I play support roles, I support AND kill. If I score, thats great. If I don't, the credits give me satisfaction...

[Tonymac]

red_ryder wrote...

Tell me if I'm a bad player or if this is to be expected. I'm playing as a lvl 17 human infiltrator on bronze with a Claymore III. The other 3 guys are soldiers, all about the same level.

As an experiment I wasn't doing any support work, and I tried my damnedest to get as many kills as possible. At the end, the scores were 41K, 39K, 37K and I had 22K.

I know the mantra about ignoring the scores and having fun, blah blah blah. But when I get scores so much lower than the other players I can't help feeling I'm doing something wrong. And then my fun level goes down.

You know - it depends on who you are playing with as well.  Different people have different styles.

If you are on PC add me - Tonycmac.

We will 2 man some bronze and I will give you pointers if you need any.  It will also build your confidence in being able to clear out a room solo.

[Dokteur Kill]

Consistently low scores is probably a sign of a... not very skilled player, but from a game to game basis? Not all characters are as effective in all situations, so sometimes you're going to be in a game where you just don't get to do much damage. Sure, you can do your best to pick an all-round build, but where's the fun in that?

Personal example: I was using a shotgun-wielding Batarian soldier with maxed out inferno grenades and ballistic blades. Don't remember the classes of the other three players, but they all had energy drain/overload. One game was Glacier against reapers. I merrily murdered my way around the map and finished waaay ahead of the next guy. Next game, same players, same characters. The map was a bigger and more open one (Dagger, maybe) against Geth. Sparks were flying everywhere, I rarely had time to get close enough to an enemy before it died, and I finished dead last by a wide margin.

[KentGoldings]

WestLakeDragon wrote...

KentGoldings wrote...

You should finish in the top two about 50% of time.

Although the above stat is a statistic I do fall into, if I'm detonating BEs and not priming them, it can be difficult to not come in 3-4 all of the time.

If you're being supportive.  I wouldn't worry about it.  However, you should bepriming as many BE as detonations.  My guess is that you find the detonations more statisfying.  But, it means that your following someone elses lead.  Everyone loves team player, but you gotta take point sometimes as well. 

In my experience, a high score often is just a result of agressive tactics and just knowing the map's spawn points. 
 

[junkgypsy]

We have a friend we play with almost everyday who is usually 3rd or 4th on score, but he is a TEAM PLAYER. We play silver and gold rounds We don't care much about low scorers even noobs as long as they are team players. The only time we fail on gold is if we have someone that is not a tem player. If everyone finished in the top two who would be 3rd or 4th then?

[Mystical_Gaming]

Getting the gold assists medal is a good sign you were helping the team a lot even if the score is low. I get that medal all the time.

[Grammaton Dryad]

greghorvath wrote...

Infiltrators shine on gold. I can only say infiltrators do not perform so well in lower difficulties. Soldiers spam concussive shot and shoot all the time while you have to find and enemy and you have to reach them to be effective. Before you do, however, concussive shot or a few shots in AR have already killed the enemy. You have a long range power that has a long cooldown and grenades that are not precision weapons. Just keep playing and don't worry about the score. 

I used to think score mattered. The cahange in this came about 3 days ago, when suddenly I just did not care about coming third in a match any more. Since then I have been liberated and would be playing for fun if I hadn't been really pissed off by a very bad streak of bugginess yesterday...

When I play support roles, I support AND kill. If I score, thats great. If I don't, the credits give me satisfaction...

Agreed. Sounds like you have the right attitude/approach as well.

And you're right about infiltrators and bronze. With so few enemies and most of them dying quickly from many things, the infiltrators (specialize in high damage typically) do not get to shine except on the very few bosses that show up.

[Grammaton Dryad]

Mystical_Gaming wrote...

Getting the gold assists medal is a good sign you were helping the team a lot even if the score is low. I get that medal all the time.

I wish they'd add a platinum assist medal for 100 assists. I think more assists happen than any other medal. Having it gold at 50 seems low considering kills and weapons gold at 75. And there are more assists available than kills in a match.

[Pichsterz]

I could care less what scores a person get in a gold game, as long as he get 50 assist medal or 25 kill + 25 assist medals.

[thisnameiscrap]

I'd rather have a team player than a solo-loving jerkoff. If you've got that fancy Krysae rifle, use it to take the heat off of your team, not rack up tons of kills and leave us to get Phantom raped.

[Freskione2]

In my opinion/experience low score does not always indicate a bad player, just as a high score doesn't always indicate a good player.
Bad players for me are those that run and gun (literally), don't revive, don't do objectives and pretty much are out for themselves. Some times those players get the highest score.
Good players are those that help their teammates, lead by example and don't give a crap in general about their score.

[VRtheTrooper]

not necessarily.

i followed a CA around detonating his smash with shockwave. barely scored higher than the bottom person. completely a support role. cleared out spawns in seconds, though.

[RavenousBear]

Not always. Bad players are those who constantly go down, refuse to use consumables, do not revive others, and do not help with the objectives. These bad players in my experience always have rock bottom scores and frustrate me.

However, if you do help the team with objectives, reviving others, and not being downed a lot during the game, then you are good in my opinion.

[BXpress2]

indy500fan wrote...

BXpress2 wrote...

astheoceansblue wrote...

Honestly, I've not come across a support role or type of class/faction combination that is an excuse for a drastically low relative score, not constently at least, and most of the time I can keep up even if I'm laying a shield turret every few seconds or debuffing with Cryo, etc...

Ah yes.the falsehood/excuse card of "i supported".let me ask you question,to all people who keep bringing up Geth Turrets and Decoys.once you place that Decoy what do you do next?do you stand there and maintain it with your screw driver?where are you guns and offensive powers?

I have scored over 140k with Geth and Human Engineers.the only reason why i could do that is because my teammates are simply bad,and the work falls on my shoulders.a fact in this game.in a game with equally skilled players ,where everybody makes an equal amount of effort,you could never outscore somebody by nearly 100k points.the gap between the players would be 10-20k.

Biotic detonators should be an exception.if somebody constantly and reliably detonates,you dont need to look at the scoreboard.it wont matter,because every reasonable player will recognize his/her contribution.

player#1 100.000
player#2   80.000
player#3   70.000
player#4   55.000

a balanced team.there will always be one guy who just couldnt be fast enough at the spawn=score doesnt matter.

player#1  150.000
player#2    50.000
player#3    40.000
player#4    30.000

3 people suck and got carried=score matters.

That second example could easily be an Adept reaving everything in first, one of the others an adept throwing everything to set off the combos, and everything dying too quickly for soldiers to get kills. Possibly not any bad players.

point taken.but then i would take that into consideration of course.

im not blind.you dont judge a player by score alone.you can judge a player's skill/effort most reliably in the match.if somebody does bad all the time it will most definetly reflect on the scoreboard.ingame performance + scoreboard=no excuses possible.

[OhPa2]

It's a great feeling when a team completes a match and you hear comments like, "Wheeeeew!" or "Nice!", or "That was great!" The team worked well together. No one is talking about scores.

There are definitely some great players out there. Some can/will carry a team and others find ways to make the team work well. There are also players out there who can't compare to the great players but somehow just make a team better.

My perspective: I am far from a great player. I usually score last but I run with the team and I spam and shoot, try to do the objectives, and watch the flanks. I very rarely play Gold and only when invited. I like to have fun, enjoy a match with friends when I can, and not take this virtual experience too seriously.

[Mgamerz]

When I'm an infiltrator or a geth engineer, I typically score low since my shield turret is being moved all over and I'm acting as medic.

[Seifer006]

Maurodax wrote...


From reading different threads aswell as listening to teammates ingame, i've gotten the feeling that most people think that a low score is equal to a bad player, but is that really true?

So i guess what i'm trying to say, is it really true that low score = bad player?

Depends.

Human Soldier built right - can do some serious damage and easily top scoreboard. Or a QME - give him the arc grenades and he's going to top the scoreboard.

but that doesn't mean they have skills.

It comes down to this: ME3 MP - is Co-Op Game. That's how it should be. It's not about who's #1

The game is to be enjoyed. Being #1 on the scoreboard is pointless.

[Sailears]

How low is low.

If you're scoring under 50k on gold, even as a support class, then maybe you could have contributed more. Unless you're say a QFI who doesn't shoot/sticky sabotaged targets, and thus gets no score for them.

Also depends on the difference between 1st place and last place. If it's like 200k to 20k, then of course they were being carried.

If it's a GI with 150k+ with second, third and fourth coming in at say 120k, 80k, 70k, then I think that everyone played a good part.

Modifié par Curunen, 05 juillet 2012 - 06:02 .

[Robbiesan]

it doesn't make you a bad player at all. Score is just a score. if you are a supportive player, even if you may have a low score at the end, you are welcome on my team. supportive players are super important, and they don't always have the highest scores, but they do make a difference.

I recall playing a match where one player (Eng) literally said "I'll take down their shields, and you finish them off." very cool of that player, and we stuck together as a pair owning the enemy.

[Geek]

Score is only telling when there is an extreme difference, like if 3 players are 100k and the 4th is at 20k then something is up. Though it isn't always a sign of a bad player. I remember a game with scores like that with a very low n7 player at the bottom, but the bottom player stuck with the team, hardly ever died and revived others. As long as people try and aren't a detriment to the team I don't care if their score is low.

[LordMarrick]

Score is only bad when there is a 7-1 difference I play well most of the time but sometimes i score pritty low due to sleepiness or bordem

[SlimJim0725]

How about this? In a full PUG another player and I had to constantly revive 2 others, use all our equipment in 2 matches (reaper hack circles are brutal in a 4 player match with only 2 decent/good players), both of us put up over 105k both matches with 3rd being around 30-45k and 4th a cool 25k at best. Neither bad player would gel or missile, so low score in this case = bad player.

Also, after second match I suggested the 4th place player try silver (he weighed the team down bad), so he placed a kick on me and said nothing the entire time other then mocking the other good player for being African American as second match loaded.

[SkreeMalicious]

depends what you mean by 'bad player'

[Yajuu Omoi]

coldlogic82 wrote...

People who believe a low score equals a bad player are generally trying to get the highest score possible to make up for their tiny dick.

Playing support won't get you a huge score, but most people are fine with that. If you're okay with a lower score, then a) awesome, you are now a valuable support team player and you probably have a huge dick irl.

Quit "dicking" around. 

A Salarian Engineer in a farming game can EASILLY outscore the entire other team combined...i've done it, and i'm NOT an amazing player...at all.

EDIT, all meant in a pleasent tone.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 05 juillet 2012 - 06:23 .

[Biotic_Warlock]

Low score + no assists = bad player
And i mean low not last place.