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I hope she's neither a companion or the protagonist.

She was annoying enough in the 10 minutes we needed to see her in DA2.

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I'm all for her being a either a companion , protagonist or LI. . Cassandra would fit in well with the rest of the DA3 group .

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I just want DA III,helping the Seekers to bring peace between the templars and the mages,with Cassandra,Galian(the guy from DA Dawn of the seeker) and Leliana ;)

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She has Loghain level pre-exposture (or perhaps more). I hope she follows his example and becomes the main antagonist.

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Jerrybnsn wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

I'd say it's heavily implied that she'll play an important role in DA3, either as a companion or major NPC that we will work closely with throughout the game. I don't think she'll be more important than the protagonist, maybe equally as important in the same way Alistair was in DA:O?


Alistair mostly sat at the party camp with Zeveran watching the campfire making sure it didn't go out.  I put Dog in charger of watching both of them.  Then he left in a crying huff at the Landsmeet and became a drunk.  You mean as important in the same way as Leliana?  She's a seeker too, by the way.


I meant in terms of the plot, Alistair was a plot heavy companion the same way that Anders was in DA2 (regardless of whether you used them or not.) But anyway, my point is I reckon Cassandra will be equally as important to the storyline in DA3 as those two were to the previous games (if she's made a companion.)

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esper wrote...

She has Loghain level pre-exposture (or perhaps more). I hope she follows his example and becomes the main antagonist.


Lol that would be a twist wouldn't it!

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LolaLei wrote...

esper wrote...

She has Loghain level pre-exposture (or perhaps more). I hope she follows his example and becomes the main antagonist.


Lol that would be a twist wouldn't it!

No that would suck...:alien:

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As long as I am giving the option to ignore Cassandra, I will happy with what ever she does.

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Jerrybnsn wrote...

I just noticed on the back of my Dawn of the Seeker case that it has a direct quote from the Lead Director of the upcoming DAIII game that says, "An action packed look at the origins of a character destined to shake the very foundations of the Dragon Age world."

Is this a confirmation that Cassandra will be the central character in the next game that you will play?  Or is it a forth coming admition that your next protagonist will not be the most important character in the game much in the same way as Hawke was not the most important character in DA2?



Don't know Jerry..There have also been several DA related comics released that will have no concequence for the games.

There are a lot of people who play DA but haven't read any of the franchise related things, including me. It would be very unlogical if they needed to be read to can fully understand what is going on in the game.

I for one read the quote as one related to the book Dawn of the Seeker. Not related to the upcoming game. Although it is not impossible that there will be a companion who is/was a seeker or that even the main character will be one.

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sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

I for one read the quote as one related to the book Dawn of the Seeker. Not related to the upcoming game. Although it is not impossible that there will be a companion who is/was a seeker or that even the main character will be one.


Dawn of the Seeker is a 90 minutes anime movie made to promote DA2 in Japan, not a book. Everything that happen in it can be explained in DA3 with a few lines. The plot is totally self contained as well, it only serve to show who is Cassandra, what make her tick and how badass she is. She also haven't shaken anything in Dawn of the Seeker.

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sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

I just noticed on the back of my Dawn of the Seeker case that it has a direct quote from the Lead Director of the upcoming DAIII game that says, "An action packed look at the origins of a character destined to shake the very foundations of the Dragon Age world."

Is this a confirmation that Cassandra will be the central character in the next game that you will play?  Or is it a forth coming admition that your next protagonist will not be the most important character in the game much in the same way as Hawke was not the most important character in DA2?



Don't know Jerry..There have also been several DA related comics released that will have no concequence for the games.

There are a lot of people who play DA but haven't read any of the franchise related things, including me. It would be very unlogical if they needed to be read to can fully understand what is going on in the game.

I for one read the quote as one related to the book Dawn of the Seeker. Not related to the upcoming game. Although it is not impossible that there will be a companion who is/was a seeker or that even the main character will be one.


Indeed. They tried that with Mass Effect, and most players got confused with who Kai Leng and Greyson were, and why they were so important and why we should care.

Still to leaving important things IN the game, not from another media most don't read/use.

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azarhal wrote...

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

I for one read the quote as one related to the book Dawn of the Seeker. Not related to the upcoming game. Although it is not impossible that there will be a companion who is/was a seeker or that even the main character will be one.


Dawn of the Seeker is a 90 minutes anime movie made to promote DA2 in Japan, not a book. Everything that happen in it can be explained in DA3 with a few lines. The plot is totally self contained as well, it only serve to show who is Cassandra, what make her tick and how badass she is. She also haven't shaken anything in Dawn of the Seeker.


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Thanks azarhal for the correction..

Still the quote does not have to relate to the upcoming game. This can be for another anime movie/comic or a book that is in the making.

As it seems the next installment will not be released any time soon so other things like mentioned above are likely to come out in order to fill the gap between the releases of the games.

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The BioWriters did say that they wanted Cassandra to be a big player in DA3, before DA2 was released. I don't think that changed, especially considering where the story is going in both the rumored geographical (Orlais) and thematic sense (Templars vs Mages).

Although, BioWare meaning for "big player" sometimes mean having a few lines in the game, but impacting the storyline in a big way (hello Flemeth).  Also, Cassandra is more badass than the Warden and Hawke combined, extremely dominating and probably just as crazy as Leliana.

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I looked at the quote as possibly refering that she would "shake the very foundations of the Dragon Age world" as to what she did in the movie itself. But, you can hardly say that getting involved in trying to stop a plot that could have changed the DA world as being the one who did the shaking (Geez, am I coming off all wrong here?).

Anyway, the plot in the movie itself to overthrow the chantry hierarchy would have went on without her if she just stayed out of it. So how could she be "a character destined to shake the very foundations of the Dragon Age world."? Unless her destiny is to be played out in the next DA game....or as stated up above in another book or movie.

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azarhal wrote...

The BioWriters did say that they wanted Cassandra to be a big player in DA3, before DA2 was released. Although, BioWare meaning for "big player" sometimes mean having a few lines in the game, but impacting the storyline in a big way (hello Flemeth). 


I smell a special edition dlc character for only an extra $20.

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Jerrybnsn wrote...

azarhal wrote...

The BioWriters did say that they wanted Cassandra to be a big player in DA3, before DA2 was released. Although, BioWare meaning for "big player" sometimes mean having a few lines in the game, but impacting the storyline in a big way (hello Flemeth). 


I smell a special edition dlc character for only an extra $20.


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But sure, everything is possible in terms of the story in the next installment. The only thing that is known for a fact is that the scraped dlc for DA2 is (partly) used for DA3. And the main subject/title? for that dlc was 'excalted march'... That sounds like seeker material to me...

It all depends on what and how the storyelements/characters of that dlc will be used in the sequel.

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I'm betting that Cassandra is the new Duncan.

If she grows her hair long, I'd let her be a LI, too.

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LolaLei wrote...

I'd say it's heavily implied that she'll play an important role in DA3, either as a companion or major NPC that we will work closely with throughout the game. I don't think she'll be more important than the protagonist, maybe equally as important in the same way Alistair was in DA:O?


My money's on this.

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azarhal wrote...

Also, Cassandra is more badass than the Warden and Hawke combined, extremely dominating and probably just as crazy as Leliana.


That's going a bit far. Cassandra never claimed the recieve visions from the Maker. Only Leliana did. And Andraste.

And a number of ancient Tevinter Archons. But they got theirs from their Gods, not the Maker.

Point is, Cassandra's not anywhere close to being as crazy as, say, Bertram. Or Meredith. Or Orsino. Or...

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WotanAnubis wrote...

That's going a bit far. Cassandra never claimed the recieve visions from the Maker. Only Leliana did. And Andraste.

And a number of ancient Tevinter Archons. But they got theirs from their Gods, not the Maker.

Point is, Cassandra's not anywhere close to being as crazy as, say, Bertram. Or Meredith. Or Orsino. Or...


I said like Leliana. 

Leliana is deeply religious and it give the impression that she's missing a screw or two. Dawn of the Seeker gave me a similar impression of Cassandra, especially with her habit of doing things that more rational people see as crazy while quoting scriptures or making reference to the Maker.

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PinkDiamondstl wrote...

LolaLei wrote...

esper wrote...

She has Loghain level pre-exposture (or perhaps more). I hope she follows his example and becomes the main antagonist.


Lol that would be a twist wouldn't it!

No that would suck...:alien:

Maybe she could be an antagonist if the DA3 Hero sides with the Mages and companion and LI if s/he sides with the Chantry.

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azarhal wrote...

renjility wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

You mean as important in the same way as Leliana?  She's a seeker too, by the way.


Leliana isn't a seeker, David Gaider said so.


Say what?  She just likes wearing Seeker uniforms?  Or did I misunderstood what I thought I saw?


I believe Gaider implied that Seekers don't necessarily have a uniform, meaning that what Leliana and the others were wearing was not Seeker armor but some other faction's.:huh:


Everybody is up in arm with Gaider saying Leliana is not a Seeker despite her wearing that armor. They all miss the really important things that he said in the thread:

I was not "surprised" that someone made that assumption. All I'm saying
is that it's an assumption. Yes, Cassandra is a Seeker (or, at least,
claims to be
), but there's nothing that suggests what she's wearing is
the "official Seeker uniform
"-- you've only seen the one, after all.



How did they explain away that Leliana was wearing a Seeker amulet when she first joins you in Origins??

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Jerrybnsn wrote...
How did they explain away that Leliana was wearing a Seeker amulet when she first joins you in Origins??


What. :huh:

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Jerrybnsn wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if the first act has the PC being recruited by Cassandra, but I really doubt the player would remain in her shadow for the entire game.  I don't think that would go down well at all.


But it would fall into the artistic realm of storytelling, which you can't argue with that.


Except that it's incredibly overdone.  It's very, very common in games for the "important person" to be someone else and you're just there to do all the work and listen to their heartfelt soul journey or whatever.  Or you follow after them trying to find them.  Or complete their work.  Or whatever.

Or, if the PC is the chosen one, they'll have a VIP mentor of some kind who fills this role and tells them where to go and what to do.

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...
How did they explain away that Leliana was wearing a Seeker amulet when she first joins you in Origins??


What. :huh:



Accessory
Seeker's Circle[/b]
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Type:
Amulet

Restriction:
Leliana

Stats:
+1 cunning
+10 mental resistance

Locations:
On Leliana, in Lothering

Value:
00000120001Posted Image 20Posted Image 0Posted Image

Description:
A wheel representing the Maker's unending patience and Andraste's unquenchable passion. Simple and inspirational, though uncommon outside the Chantry. A gift meant to be given without conditions.

Item ID:
gen_im_acc_amu_lel

Appearances:
Dragon Age: Origins

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 09 juillet 2012 - 10:53 .