CrutchCricket wrote...
Caenis wrote...
I know 
Control is actually my Canon choice, it was originally Synthesis. But I decided to become a Reaper in exchange for everyone elses lives, and to guide humanity so that they could evolve on their own time. Basically just watching them, and not intervening beyond repairing what was lost, as I did not believe in Synthesis' Technological idea of Utopia...at least not after further thought, discussion and research. So I went with control.
But the thing anyone can argue why an ending is right if they believe in it enough. I believe that Destroy, Synthesis, Control AND Refusal can all be good choices, and can actually argue pretty aggressively for each one. Since this thread is Anti-Synthesis, I am arguing for Synthesis. If it were Anti-Control I'd argue for that. And while I doubt I'd argue for Anti-Destroy or Refusal, I have written completely valid reasons supporting them.
Well the the control support thread is the place for you!
But anyway, I do see what you're getting at. Unfortunately synthesis does present more problems than it solves, both logically and morally. You have to really ignore a lot of things and focus on just "feeling good" to be satisfied with it.
It's not about "hating on synthesis" and the people who chose it. It's about the deep fundamental problems about how it's laid out.
True. Synthesis does have some issues, a lot of those issues are a clashing of values. The number one issue I see a lot is:
-Taking away Freedom, the Freedom too choose.
This is something I see argued again and again. Another argument I saw that was pretty good, was that it is also commiting 'genocide' not just of the human race but of all races in the galaxy.
Whereas Destroy, many people believe that you're only getting rid of Robots, and you can build more. But according to the game, another Catalyst will be made again and there will be new wars. And we'll come to this point in place and time.
Control, I like control. But a lot of people don't like that because you become a Reaper, "Indoctrinated" and there are some issues with that too, like the idea that power corrupts, and some have argued enforcing your 'law' onto people.
I feel like the choices we received are all fundamentally wronged. Bioware complicated SO MUCH by making the Reapers out to be some people who were just 'trying to save humans from themselves', they complicated everything more than it needed to be by making this a war between 'organics vs. sentient robots'. They put us into this position where we had to make sacrifices that were just fundamentally stupid. They gave us a deux ex machina, and then attempted to pit us against each other...when at the end of the day there is no wrong ending and all the endings are just plain stupid.
What should have happened, is the Reapers should have had some big crazy boss, who would should have been able to kill and save the day without killing everybody or having to choose and impose or ideas onto humanity because each choice we impose something. Literally we are put in a room and told to choose 3 fates for humanity, 1. Control by a Dictator, 2. Make them all Part Robot Part Organic, or 3. Destroy all Technology and 'emerging' Sentient beings.
THAT was not cool. And now here we are arguing which was the lesser of all 3 evils !
At the end of the day this debate is as it was said 'headcannon vs headcannon', (that quote gets my +2) it's also something like this.
anorling wrote...
I'll just say this again
Trying to create an ending that was supposed to engurage debate purely based on on peoples viewpoints, different angles of philosophy and morale was, in my opinion, a huge misstake from Bioware.
A debate like that will never end well, or rather end at all. It will always be an infected debate with lots of passive agressive posts, replies and insults.
If Bioware hoped to split the fanbase and leave the forum dripping with venom then they at least succeded with that part of the ending.
I guess congratulations is in order?
I figured hell, I'm supposed to be studying, and nobody will listen to me asking why are we trying to prove each others choices in a game wrong. So why not just join in too? But at the end of the day it IS just crazy. The whole thing at a fundamental level!
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