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[DistantUtopia]

Filament wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Something like a shaped charge-projectile I would assume.

With molten metal + eezo. Seems legit.

So...giant cadbury egg missiles?

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

DistantUtopia wrote...

Filament wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Something like a shaped charge-projectile I would assume.

With molten metal + eezo. Seems legit.

So...giant cadbury egg missiles?

The Reapers' one and only weakness: Diabeetus.

Modifié par Leonardo the Magnificent, 05 juillet 2012 - 07:10 .

[Random Geth]

Hackulator wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Hackulator wrote...

LETS FIND SOMETHING NEW TO COMPLAIN ABOUT TODAY! THAT WILL CERTAINLY MAKE US ALL HAPPIER PEOPLE.

You know, there was a time when I respected people for disliking Mass Effect 3, even though I disagreed with them. Now I've come to believe they're mostly whiny 12 year olds who are mad they didn't get another sex scene in the ending sequence, so they're just looking for anything to complain about.

Yes you are so much more mature barging into every topic like this one and complaining about everything said.

I complain when people say stupid things

You complain about yourself often then, I gather.

[Someone With Mass]

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Thanix cannons are reverse-engineered reaper magnetic-hydrodynamic weapons that shoot a stream of molten metal at a fraction of the speed of light. So, how in the Biotic God's name do you turn that concept into a missile system?

What, a rocket that delivers a strong amount of energy to pierce armor on impact? That kind of weapon technology has been around since and before the second world war.

[thisisme8]

First, just because you don't understand how missiles work, doesn't mean they don't make sense.

Second, Hades Cannons can only destroy surface-to-land and long range surface-to-surface missiles. The missiles used in that sequence are fine as they are below the Hades Cannon's kill-zone, are fired close range, and finally: there were no Hades Cannons in the immediate vicinity.

Lastly, the science behind the Thanix Cannon can be soundly applied to a missile as a missile is only a delivery system. The difference being that the missiles most likely send the solidified particles in all directions as opposed to straight out. This would only be in the form of a burst, as opposed to the cannon's stream, but effective if applied beneath the reaper's "shell."

Another note is that a missile (if not in danger of being shot down) is almost always preferable as it can be deployed without line of sight.

[v TricKy v]

Why are people comparing it with shaped charges? They use a solid metal piece for it. It basically like a hammer pressing the metal piece in the enemy armor.
How can that work with liquid material without getting sprayed all over the place by the explosion?

[o Ventus]

thisisme8 wrote...

Lastly, the science behind the Thanix Cannon can be soundly applied to a missile as a missile is only a delivery system. The difference being that the missiles most likely send the solidified particles in all directions as opposed to straight out. This would only be in the form of a burst, as opposed to the cannon's stream, but effective if applied beneath the reaper's "shell."

Solidified particles? It's molten metal, as in, liquefied. If the explosion is produced with any significant amount of force, the white-hot metal will splash back at friendly ground forces.

Modifié par o Ventus, 05 juillet 2012 - 07:54 .

[Carlthestrange]

Missiles filled with superheated metal. What could go wrong?

[Pottumuusi]

Shut up and look at the pretty colours.

[savionen]

thisisme8 wrote...

First, just because you don't understand how missiles work, doesn't mean they don't make sense.

Second, Hades Cannons can only destroy surface-to-land and long range surface-to-surface missiles. The missiles used in that sequence are fine as they are below the Hades Cannon's kill-zone, are fired close range, and finally: there were no Hades Cannons in the immediate vicinity.

Lastly, the science behind the Thanix Cannon can be soundly applied to a missile as a missile is only a delivery system. The difference being that the missiles most likely send the solidified particles in all directions as opposed to straight out. This would only be in the form of a burst, as opposed to the cannon's stream, but effective if applied beneath the reaper's "shell."

Another note is that a missile (if not in danger of being shot down) is almost always preferable as it can be deployed without line of sight.

It's not just a chunk of molten metal, it's a continous stream. Missile != continuous stream in any way possible.

[Someone With Mass]

v TricKy v wrote...

Why are people comparing it with shaped charges? They use a solid metal piece for it. It basically like a hammer pressing the metal piece in the enemy armor.
How can that work with liquid material without getting sprayed all over the place by the explosion?

Mass effect fields.

[Henioo]

Hey, so Thanix is basically metal? Now, where does it come from? Does it need refueling?

And where does it go to? Just disappears?


Maybe missiles are just big thanix cannons that shoot big-ass rounds and not as often.

[thisisme8]

o Ventus wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

Lastly, the science behind the Thanix Cannon can be soundly applied to a missile as a missile is only a delivery system. The difference being that the missiles most likely send the solidified particles in all directions as opposed to straight out. This would only be in the form of a burst, as opposed to the cannon's stream, but effective if applied beneath the reaper's "shell."

Solidified particles? It's molten metal, as in, liquefied. If the explosion is produced with any significant amount of force, the white-hot metal will splash back at friendly ground forces.

"The molten metal, accelerated to a significant fraction of the speed of light, solidifies into a projectile as it is fired"

savionen wrote...

It's not just a chunk of molten metal, it's a continous stream. Missile != continuous stream in any way possible.

Really?  That's all you have?

Modifié par thisisme8, 05 juillet 2012 - 08:10 .

[The Angry One]

thisisme8 wrote...

"The molten metal, accelerated to a significant fraction of the speed of light, solidifies into a projectile as it is fired"

Which is a stupid retcon that negates the point of it being a heat based weapon, and also contradicts accounts of installations on Earth being "buried in molten metal" but whatever.

[o Ventus]

thisisme8 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

Lastly, the science behind the Thanix Cannon can be soundly applied to a missile as a missile is only a delivery system. The difference being that the missiles most likely send the solidified particles in all directions as opposed to straight out. This would only be in the form of a burst, as opposed to the cannon's stream, but effective if applied beneath the reaper's "shell."

Solidified particles? It's molten metal, as in, liquefied. If the explosion is produced with any significant amount of force, the white-hot metal will splash back at friendly ground forces.

"The molten metal, accelerated to a significant fraction of the speed of light, solidifies into a projectile as it is fired"

1. That codex is self contradictory.

2. The Reapers are able to bury buildings and missiles silos under molten metal. 

[DGMockingJay]

Fuzzfro wrote...

 Seriously.

Have to agree with this.....

[thisisme8]

The Angry One wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

"The molten metal, accelerated to a significant fraction of the speed of light, solidifies into a projectile as it is fired"

Which is a stupid retcon that negates the point of it being a heat based weapon, and also contradicts accounts of installations on Earth being "buried in molten metal" but whatever.

Even if it never solidified, it's irrelevent to how the missile would work.  If you could fire a cannon with thanix technology, you could put that same technology into a missle.

Regarding someone's post about shrapnel being dumb because it would fly back and hit allies...  no, that is not a concern.

[RadicalDisconnect]

Someone With Mass wrote...

RadicalDisconnect wrote...

Thanix cannons are reverse-engineered reaper magnetic-hydrodynamic weapons that shoot a stream of molten metal at a fraction of the speed of light. So, how in the Biotic God's name do you turn that concept into a missile system?

What, a rocket that delivers a strong amount of energy to pierce armor on impact? That kind of weapon technology has been around since and before the second world war.

Are you telling me that the main damage of missiles comes from its kinetic energy? You've got to be kidding me. A missile without a warhead is one expensive, inefficient bullet. I'm wondering how the hell a warhead of a Thanix missile works, as it doesn't seem like the concept of Thanix cannons are applicable to a missile.

[v TricKy v]

Also how it this reaper tech if it is so simple?

[thisisme8]

This is the funniest thread. I've answered how they would work, and it fits fine into the lore. Why doesn't anyone ask how the Death Star works? Lasers fired at 45 degree angles that when they collide (har har) create a bigger laser that fires at a different angle? Done. Star Wars 4 and 6 are now stupid and George Lucas hates us and the ending is a big FU to the fans. Are we all happy now?

[genocidal villain]

I don't see the point of the topic of this thread because you're asking how technology works in the ME universe which is pretty pointless. All you need to know is what it does not how it works. Asking how a thanix missile works is like asking how the mass relays, omni-tool, biotics, biotic amps, etc. work.

[o Ventus]

genocidal villain wrote...

I don't see the point of the topic of this thread because you're asking how technology works in the ME universe which is pretty pointless. All you need to know is what it does not how it works. Asking how a thanix missile works is like asking how the mass relays, omni-tool, biotics, biotic amps, etc. work.

But you see, we DO know how those work.

The codex tells us how they work.

[Queen Ultima]

Honestly I was thinking about this myself when redoing Earth when the EC came out (playing on Narrative gives you a lot more time to think about lore than Hardcore...)

I see it as either one of two options.

1) It's a missile shaped delivery system for the molten-metal that comprises Thanix ("uranium, iron and tungsten suspended in an electromagnetic field powered by element zero"). As for the splashback, perhaps one can argue the missile is designed to create mass-effect fields that repel the molten metal from any undesireable directions, before it solidifies.

2) Thanix is a brand, or mythological name, applied to several anti-Reaper weaponry. Similar to how Mantis can mean the Sniper rifle or the Helicopter. Personally, it sounds to me like a Turian spirit's name.

[v TricKy v]

o Ventus wrote...

genocidal villain wrote...

I don't see the point of the topic of this thread because you're asking how technology works in the ME universe which is pretty pointless. All you need to know is what it does not how it works. Asking how a thanix missile works is like asking how the mass relays, omni-tool, biotics, biotic amps, etc. work.

But you see, we DO know how those work.

The codex tells us how they work.

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