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The retcon really makes Thanix a lot less interesting and impressive.

The ME3 version is plausible as a missile, it's just be terribly ineffective and seems pointless. Superheated ammo in general isn't that effective against metal targets... If anything it might just shatter on impact due to becoming brittle or too malleable. ME2's Thanix cannon was effectively a magma cannon.

Modifié par savionen, 05 juillet 2012 - 08:38 .


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The Angry One wrote...

"Thanix kills Reapers. I need missiles that kill Reapers. Therefore, Thanix missiles! I'm an artist! Wait, what's Thanix?"

^
That's how.


Next SP DLC will include Thanix N7 edition which allow you with your Thanix Shotgun or Rifle shoot down Harbringer on the final run to conduit ... so you won´t be harmed by his lazorB)

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You would think that if they gave a couple trucks Reaper killers, they would give them to VERY SINGLE SHIP in the entire fleet. But no, conventional victory is impossible.

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Queen Ultima wrote...
2) Thanix is a brand, or mythological name, applied to several anti-Reaper weaponry. Similar to how Mantis can mean the Sniper rifle or the Helicopter. Personally, it sounds to me like a Turian spirit's name.


THIS.

The Thanix Cannon was a powerful weapon created by Turian Engineers. The name probably comes from Turian's mythology/history just like we call an helicopter "Apache". Even in ME3 there are two Javelins, the Geth Sniper Rifle and the cannons mounted on starships.

It's just a name... and Turians probably use it for weapons reverse-engineered from Reapers because Thanix could be some ancient warrior believed to fight demons or something like that.

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o Ventus wrote...

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I don't see the point of the topic of this thread because you're asking how technology works in the ME universe which is pretty pointless. All you need to know is what it does not how it works. Asking how a thanix missile works is like asking how the mass relays, omni-tool, biotics, biotic amps, etc. work.


But you see, we DO know how those work.

The codex tells us how they work.


Funny how you know more about make believe weapons than real weapons.

Modifié par thisisme8, 05 juillet 2012 - 08:54 .


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o Ventus wrote...

genocidal villain wrote...

I don't see the point of the topic of this thread because you're asking how technology works in the ME universe which is pretty pointless. All you need to know is what it does not how it works. Asking how a thanix missile works is like asking how the mass relays, omni-tool, biotics, biotic amps, etc. work.


But you see, we DO know how those work.

The codex tells us how they work.


There is a difference between knowing how things work and what they do. For example, how does a watch work and what it does. What the watch does is tell time; how the watch works are parts turning to give you the time. Look at the mass relays we know they reduce the mass of the ship to travel FTL, but how does it achieve this?

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When i first saw this in ME3, i did a quick google search to see if such a missile existed which utilised molten metal (seen in the thanix cannon). I came to the conclusion that the writer attempted to base the Thanix missile on a weapon which is currently in development by the Department of Defence:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAHEM

Its called the Magneto Hydrodynamic Explosive Munition, and is a missle which contains a molten metal core. Upon impact, the liquid metal core would be used to penetrate armor. 
I assume the Thanix Missle would work in a similar fashion, except an eezo core would be used to hold the liquid in place within the missile, or something like that! =]

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thisisme8 wrote...

This is the funniest thread. I've answered how they would work, and it fits fine into the lore. Why doesn't anyone ask how the Death Star works? Lasers fired at 45 degree angles that when they collide (har har) create a bigger laser that fires at a different angle? Done. Star Wars 4 and 6 are now stupid and George Lucas hates us and the ending is a big FU to the fans. Are we all happy now?


Star Wars has entire technical manuals detailing how the Death Star works, actually.
Someone told me once and I forget, but yes, it's explained in detail. So there.

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It always depresses me when I see people getting worked up at other people for niggling at little inconsistencies and irritants. That niggling away type of mind is responsible for just about every scientific breakthrough ever made (and probably just about every complicated crime solved).
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thisisme8 wrote...

First, just because you don't understand how missiles work, doesn't mean they don't make sense.

Second, Hades Cannons can only destroy surface-to-land and long range surface-to-surface missiles. The missiles used in that sequence are fine as they are below the Hades Cannon's kill-zone, are fired close range, and finally: there were no Hades Cannons in the immediate vicinity.

Lastly, the science behind the Thanix Cannon can be soundly applied to a missile as a missile is only a delivery system. The difference being that the missiles most likely send the solidified particles in all directions as opposed to straight out. This would only be in the form of a burst, as opposed to the cannon's stream, but effective if applied beneath the reaper's "shell."

Another note is that a missile (if not in danger of being shot down) is almost always preferable as it can be deployed without line of sight.


The cannon is a mass accelerator. To apply that science to a missile would require you to have an explosive charge capable of sending **** flying out at near the speed of the light upon detonation. If you don't understand how that makes absolutely no sense then you shouldn't be allowed to use the word science.

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The Angry One wrote...

thisisme8 wrote...

This is the funniest thread. I've answered how they would work, and it fits fine into the lore. Why doesn't anyone ask how the Death Star works? Lasers fired at 45 degree angles that when they collide (har har) create a bigger laser that fires at a different angle? Done. Star Wars 4 and 6 are now stupid and George Lucas hates us and the ending is a big FU to the fans. Are we all happy now?


Star Wars has entire technical manuals detailing how the Death Star works, actually.
Someone told me once and I forget, but yes, it's explained in detail. So there.


You just have to look hard enough and you'll find schematics for every weapon, spaceship etc etc...

It is quite amazing

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o Ventus wrote...

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Fuzzfro wrote...

 Seriously.



Exaclty...nerd nitpicking about specifics in a world where people glow blue and shoot glowing blue balls at people so they float or blow up.


So if I have a hand grenade that releases poisonous teddybears upon detonation, and those teddybears are filled with raspberry jellybeans, I should live with it just because other aspects of the universe are ridiculous?

Masterful logic.


Sure

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Barnzy wrote...

When i first saw this in ME3, i did a quick google search to see if such a missile existed which utilised molten metal (seen in the thanix cannon). I came to the conclusion that the writer attempted to base the Thanix missile on a weapon which is currently in development by the Department of Defence:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAHEM

Its called the Magneto Hydrodynamic Explosive Munition, and is a missle which contains a molten metal core. Upon impact, the liquid metal core would be used to penetrate armor. 
I assume the Thanix Missle would work in a similar fashion, except an eezo core would be used to hold the liquid in place within the missile, or something like that! =]


Okay, seriously. No. Eezo core? Sure, if you want it labelled as a pollutant, a weapon of mass destruction and get about 10,000 sanctions dropped on you by the Council.
Thanix technology works by accelerating molten metal to near the speed of light, how would a missile do that and more importantly, why would you do that with a missile when you can do it with a cannon that has ultra long range and is reusable instead?

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I love sci fi tech. Maybe now that they're 99 percent sure of the Higgs Boson particle, we can have mass relays...ok, probably not. But yes, Thanix missles...perhaps as Queen Ultima wrote, just a classification of anti-reaper weapon. May not work in the same fashion but hey, it worked...kind of.

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Honestly, Thanix missile warheads seem like nothing more than glorified modern HEAT rounds, which uses a stream of molten copper formed by explosives to penetrate armor. Although ironically, HEAT rounds are meant to penetrate armor while Thanix warheads are meant to be more effective against kinetic barriers.

Modifié par RadicalDisconnect, 05 juillet 2012 - 09:18 .


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It doesn’t matter how applying Thanix technology to missiles work, because missiles should be pointless in the first place due to GARDIAN lasers anyway.

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Deltoran wrote...

I love sci fi tech. Maybe now that they're 99 percent sure of the Higgs Boson particle, we can have mass relays...ok, probably not. But yes, Thanix missles...perhaps as Queen Ultima wrote, just a classification of anti-reaper weapon. May not work in the same fashion but hey, it worked...kind of.


The scene is kinda iffy about that.

To me it goes like this:

Tanks:  "We can't kill the Reaper with tanks!"

Shepard: "I will fire the missiles!"

Destroyer: "Har har missiles do nothing!"

Shepard: "Hey, tanks! Kill that Reaper!"

*tanks proceed to kill the Reaper*

Dur..

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True enough haha. Priority Earth had a few problems lol.

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The Angry One wrote...

Barnzy wrote...

When i first saw this in ME3, i did a quick google search to see if such a missile existed which utilised molten metal (seen in the thanix cannon). I came to the conclusion that the writer attempted to base the Thanix missile on a weapon which is currently in development by the Department of Defence:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAHEM

Its called the Magneto Hydrodynamic Explosive Munition, and is a missle which contains a molten metal core. Upon impact, the liquid metal core would be used to penetrate armor. 
I assume the Thanix Missle would work in a similar fashion, except an eezo core would be used to hold the liquid in place within the missile, or something like that! =]


Okay, seriously. No. Eezo core? Sure, if you want it labelled as a pollutant, a weapon of mass destruction and get about 10,000 sanctions dropped on you by the Council.
Thanix technology works by accelerating molten metal to near the speed of light, how would a missile do that and more importantly, why would you do that with a missile when you can do it with a cannon that has ultra long range and is reusable instead?


Scrap the eezo core idea and BANG .. Thanix Missile!

Also, a Thanix Cannon operates by accelerating molten metal to a fraction near light speed, it was never stated that ALL Thanix technology operates the same way. Given that the Thanix missile is fired at what i would assume to be no where near the speed of light just proves this thought.
I think it is more likely that the term Thanix was attached to this missile simply because it uses (possibly) a molten metal core to penetrate enemy armor, similar to how the moden day Magneto Hydrodynamic Explosive Munition works, as linked above.

Modifié par Barnzy, 05 juillet 2012 - 09:23 .


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The Angry One wrote...

"Thanix kills Reapers. I need missiles that kill Reapers. Therefore, Thanix missiles! I'm an artist! Wait, what's Thanix?"

^
That's how.

the only thing more disappointing than your angst/cynical shtick are the peopl that grou-think and parrot your ignorant POV. I was in the very thread where a military member actually educated you on how missle tech would allow this but like usual you ignore actual facts that contradict your bias so you can repeat the same joke, "herp derp its because of space magic/art/speculation! Look at me, im full of angst and im witty!". why people follow your uncredible word is beyond me...

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Fuzzfro wrote...

 Seriously.


We are geeks.  We are nerds.  This is what we do.  Are you new to geekdom?  This phenomenon is older than most of us.  The Trekkies are even worse, if you can believe that.

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Deltoran wrote...

True enough haha. Priority Earth had a few problems lol.


More than a few.

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pants witch wrote...

Fuzzfro wrote...

 Seriously.


We are geeks.  We are nerds.  This is what we do.  Are you new to geekdom?  This phenomenon is older than most of us.  The Trekkies are even worse, if you can believe that.


I actually had a cassette tape that went into explicit detail about errors in the first few seasons of TNG. Yeah, nitpicking is what we do, because if we don't, consistency will go right out the window.

Look at ME: Deception.

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Barnzy wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Barnzy wrote...

When i first saw this in ME3, i did a quick google search to see if such a missile existed which utilised molten metal (seen in the thanix cannon). I came to the conclusion that the writer attempted to base the Thanix missile on a weapon which is currently in development by the Department of Defence:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAHEM

Its called the Magneto Hydrodynamic Explosive Munition, and is a missle which contains a molten metal core. Upon impact, the liquid metal core would be used to penetrate armor. 
I assume the Thanix Missle would work in a similar fashion, except an eezo core would be used to hold the liquid in place within the missile, or something like that! =]


Okay, seriously. No. Eezo core? Sure, if you want it labelled as a pollutant, a weapon of mass destruction and get about 10,000 sanctions dropped on you by the Council.
Thanix technology works by accelerating molten metal to near the speed of light, how would a missile do that and more importantly, why would you do that with a missile when you can do it with a cannon that has ultra long range and is reusable instead?


Scrap the eezo core idea and BANG .. Thanix Missile!

Also, a Thanix Cannon operates by accelerating molten metal to a fraction near light speed, it was never stated that ALL Thanix technology operates the same way. Given that the Thanix missile is fired at what i would assume to be no where near the speed of light just proves this thought.
I think it is more likely that the term Thanix was attached to this missile simply because it uses (possibly) a molten metal core to penetrate enemy armor, similar to how the moden day Magneto Hydrodynamic Explosive Munition works, as linked above.


But that's the whole point. Why would you even use missiles when you can just use a mass accelerator. There is literally no advantage whatsoever to using missiles unless you're trying to shoot around the curvature of a planet.

If we had working mass accelerators in our time then you can be damn sure DARPA wouldn't be working on that MAHEM ****.

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Tritium315 wrote...
But that's the whole point. Why would you even use missiles when you can just use a mass accelerator. There is literally no advantage whatsoever to using missiles unless you're trying to shoot around the curvature of a planet.

If we had working mass accelerators in our time then you can be damn sure DARPA wouldn't be working on that MAHEM ****.


Well, we are working on the much more possible tech of "railguns". A bit too big to wield like in ME, but still hella deadly.