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[CptData]

I'm currently thinking about reviewing the OP to shift the focus of the DLC a bit.

Tropulous, a good friend and Kaidanmancer who currently can't post on BSN, gave me the idea we might get a bit more support if the focus is shifted from "Romance content" to "Story content". However, I try to incorporate as much romantic or friendship related content as possible.

Stay tuned. More or less. ^^

[laikabaws]

Reposting this here instead:
This sibling fandom thing makes me miss Ashley a whole lot more. I really wish I could keep them both  I considered Ash to be my Sheps' sisters, like yang to Kaidan's yin in Shep's life  

On the topic, I also want to see the VS' skills as an individual like Kaidan's biotic prowess and Ashley's mastery of weapons. Also a mini quest regarding their specific pasts would be nice (getting to know Ash's family or clearing her name and Kaidan's brain camp past or biotic students or finding his family sort of thing). Super thanks for doing this for us too~  And more snarky banter please. Their little comments in ME1 were so funny. 

Edit: Develop or show Kaidan being an L2. He's supposed to be one of the most powerful biotic humans. Also, spectre-ness! Both VS should show that they are spectre-worthy (and maybe save or carry Shepard from something this time, for old times sake).

Modifié par laikabaws, 09 juillet 2012 - 01:49 .

[d1ta]

@OP: I kinda like the suggestion of making the title as 'Story DLC' since I find several people here have some sort of allergic reaction to the word 'romance' ~_^ 
Although what (most of us?) meant by that is character interaction be it romance or friendship plus a side mission for more war assets.

Just my 2 cents ^^

Poll: Does the VS feel like the Shepard's XO?

No, he is my permanent bedmate XD

*flees*
Sorry, just can't resist XD

[cardinalally]

 So many good ideas on this thread!
Going back to Virmire would be interesting.  It could involve both reliving the guilt they felt.  If there is no romance it could be the two of them discussing the issues going back brought up.  If there is a NEW romance the survivor could question if Sheps feeling played a part in the decision.  Shep could answer yes or no.  Yes Shep had feeling and that did play a role or no the feeling built as they got closer after the death.  If there is an OLD romance it would then reflect that.  This would be a great time to build the characters and show more depth.

P.S
I really like the idea of Kaidan/Ashley having to save Sheps **** for once.  Maybe Shep takes a hit to save a squadmate and has to be saved by the VS this would bring everything full circle.
Also if MShep didn't romance anyone if ME1 or 2 then there could be a few extra lines of dialoge that reflects that.  (Its always been you Kaidan:wub:).  Although this could also be time to relfect a reward for staying loyal to them throughout ME2 if they were romanced in 1.

Anyway, if there is a story based mission with more character interaction then I'm in regardless if I romanced them 

[Overdrive1493]

tl:dr

You try too hard.

[NRieh]

Nrieh: well, I know that. I'm also well aware both characters feel different in ME3 and although they have the same role in the story, they're not ONE character with different genders.
But it's really, really easy to refer to the "Virmire Survivor" and use that term as a wildcard instead of writing "Ashley / Kaidan", "Ashley or Kaidan", "A/K", etc. Call me lazy. ^^

Well, if you, interested fan who cares is "lazy" to type few more letters, why would BW ever care about "VS syndrom"? Why would they draw models and make animations? Why would they make separate content, if fans seem so happy about "the VS" at they are ( or should I say "it is")?

I did not try to offend Ash's fans (just saying), I know they have same share of displeasure as we do...Though, probably, not.. Because Ashley shoots things in cuts...as usual, and Kaidan...shoots things in cuts....as Ashley.

But that's not the point. Point is that unless WE(fans, mancers etc) sart to make difference between those two and stop treating them as "VS" and speaking of them as "VS" - there's no reasons for BW to do so.

[CptData]

Nrieh: It's really just some kind of "laziness".

Let's make a trade off: whenever I write "VS" in context of some idea, content or whatever, it refers to both. If I use a name (Ashley or Kaidan) it's an idea focused on that particular character

It's really not meant in an offending way. I just use the term "Virmire Survivor" to save time and to make a text less bumpy to read. You know ... it's like with that gendering: "dear female and male students" (it makes more sense in German, we do have that crap there). Know what I mean?

And most guys around here accept it. However, I changed the thread's topic. Hope you're happy now. ^^

[Mimitochan]

Nrieh wrote...

Well, if you, interested fan who cares is "lazy" to type few more letters, why would BW ever care about "VS syndrom"? Why would they draw models and make animations? Why would they make separate content, if fans seem so happy about "the VS" at they are ( or should I say "it is")?

I did not try to offend Ash's fans (just saying), I know they have same share of displeasure as we do...Though, probably, not.. Because Ashley shoots things in cuts...as usual, and Kaidan...shoots things in cuts....as Ashley.

But that's not the point. Point is that unless WE(fans, mancers etc) sart to make difference between those two and stop treating them as "VS" and speaking of them as "VS" - there's no reasons for BW to do so.

Nrieh, Kaidan's special to me, yes he is, but the truth is, if this is ever gonna happen, there are twice as much odds that it will happen if the DLC is about the both of them as a pair, rather than individually. Because, yes, even if each character is really different, they're a bit... two sides of the same coin, and that coin is, well, Virmire.

But I agree that the expression "Virmire Survivor" is ugly. But obviously, it's been generally accepted, so it's a shortcut really... Maybe we could try to find another title to reflect that, something more positive...  

Maybe something like a "Comrades-in-arms tribute", I mean, you get the idea.

EDIT > Actually, I really like the idea to have some sort of "twin" DLC. You could have for instance the same mission, or same story, but you could choose to play it as Ashley or Kaidan, and then, it would be nice to have each character carve its own path in the story, with its specific strengths, abilities, personality, powers, weapons, etc.

I quite liked Ashley character, the renders below, as usual from nhaneh, really express my views on this, maybe it would be touchful to have something like that in the DLC >>>





http://nhaneh.tumblr.com/page/26

Modifié par Mimitochan, 09 juillet 2012 - 04:21 .

[NRieh]

You know ... it's like with that gendering: "dear female and male students"

It's not. Those characters are not simply different by gender, they have nothing in common exept for Shepard romancing one of them(if happens) and fact that one of them may survive Virmire (if happens). Why dont we say "I romanced LI" instead of typing full names? Plotwise they all same, you know.

[Mimitochan]

First of all, I appreciate your efforts about that topic, it is a nice initiative.
As an introduction, I'd like to point out that i'd rather have no DLC at all about Kaidan than a bad one. So I'm really uneasy about this, but i'll give you my thoughts, just don't feel offended if I seem to criticize some of your ideas here a bit harshly - i know that these ideas have already been expressed elsewhere, that they may be somebody else's ideas and so on. Also, please excuse me if I don't come up with actual ideas, it's just that if I have to, i'd rather think about this hard rather than talk nonsense.

It's just... that I'm really annoyed when fanservice takes control over a game, and it shouldn't lead to some absurd consequences such as the awful evac scene from the EC. As a Kaidan fan, I hated it, absolutely no link whatsoever with femShep/Kaidan relationship, unpersonal (all LI have the exact same scene and animations), completely unrealistic (Normandy cab) and most importantly, it absolutely ruined the value and power of the perfect London goodbye scene.
So rather than seeing it hypotetically happen and just rage about it afterwards, I thought i would express my views here and save myself some potential future regrets. I will try to be constructive, but may fail.

CptData wrote...
Over the course of ME3 the VS is taken out for a third of the game so especially new guys may miss any content for Kaidan and Ashley. Missing the VS here results in either death in the Coup OR refusal when trying to recruit the VS for the crew again.
In a way it's difficult (for Ash nearly impossible) to romance the VS without importing a Shepard that had a romance with the VS.
So in most cases, new guys never romance the VS. That is a big issue that needs to be dealt with, if Bioware ever plans to give us a romance DLC dedicated to the VS.

As a faithful Kaidan romancer, I don't see the problem here, "new guys never romancing Ash or Kaidan"?
It's their loss, and it's BW loss, sorry.
So after vaporizing them in ME2 - very smart move BTW from BW, compelling us all poor Ashley and Kaidan fans to buy ME3 just to see them again -, after vaporizing them in ME2, do you honestly think it's fair that any more development should be dedicated to the newbies rather than to the faihful players? We should be the priority target for any potential DLC centered on Ash or Kaidan. If the DLC includes anything for newbies romance-wise, then it's a bonus.

--> Call the LI to Shepard's cabin
A feature introduced in ME2 should return. However, it shouldn't end with a snuggling scene only but with a randomly picked scene showing the LI and Shepard doing ... yeah, romantic stuff. Like stargazing. Having a dinner. Playing chess. Holding hands ... you name it.
Said feature gets overridden if you allow your LI to permanently move in.

Don't know about that, never invited anybody in Shep's cabin in ME2.
From what you're describing, it sure sounds like some kind of tamagochi feature... rather creepy actually.
Please, no option wheel with a.cuddling, b.kissing, c. holding hands and such, what is this The Sims, Virmire Edition? For god's sake, these are characters, let's have something character-specific, written, something smart, something endearing, but not this... What did Shep say to Kaidan in ME1? "If I was looking for a pet, I would have looked elsewhere." Please, don't even think about making a love pet out of Kaidan.

--> Allow your LI to permanently move in to Shepard's cabin
What it says. That feature shouldn't be available until very late of the game, maybe right after the Thessia mission. It also should be only possible after you did the LI's special mission.

Mmmmh, is this still a military ship or a love hotel????

[CptData]

@Mimitochan:

Well, you're a faithful Kaidan romancer. You know who Kaidan is, where he comes from, his overall attitude. You know his past, his character, traits, flaws etc. In short: you have an idea why you like Kaidan.

A new player who starts to play the series with ME3 won't go after Kaidan or Ashley, because both characters pretty much lack the substance they got in ME1. Without ME1, Ash & Kaidan feel hollow, incomplete. Not 100% sure about Kaidan, 'though he gets taken out for the same part of the plot like Ash does. And you can -easily- miss them in the hospital. Even if you do the visits, it's hard to get in touch with them. Again: not sure for Kaidan, but darn sure for Ashley.

That's why I think both characters need more stuff here. They also need some (and even more) stuff post Coup, but to hook up with them, Ash & Kaidan need more content in the beginning of the game.

So you can't say "it's their loss" - since they simply don't see it as one. Technically, if you're a straight player, only male!Shepard gets a fully developed straight romance option, which is Liara. Ashley has nothing to get you hooked. And fem!Shep lacks a straight romance with a properly designed romance arc, since Kaidan lacks a fully developed build up sequence as well.

Just my idea on your first paragraph.

Rest of stuff:

"Inviting the VS" - it's not a "creepy tamagotchi feature", it's more or less an idea to add a special feeling of a romance. Not sure if there's a wheel to select an option ... dunno. Never got into details. Maybe it doesn't even has to be a feature like I described - ONE opportunity to call the VS after romanced should do the trick too. Pretty much like you can do with Vega, Liara or Traynor.

And the "move in permanently feature" is ... well, it's based on a question Ashley asked in the original script before it got cut. If romanced, she awkwardly asks Shepard if it's okay to move in his cabin. Somehow that line got removed. The current status is: Ashley and Kaidan hang out on the observatory deck and you have no idea if she or he lives with Shepard or not. It's up to you to decide that, but I rather have an option to make it "official".

Besides that: if we're talking about a military ship, Spectre or not, no romance should happen then *g*


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One more thing: I'm reviewing the OP to shift the focus from "Romance Content" to "Generic Content" which also includes friendship / comradeship level of interaction and the Virmire mission. I want to carve out the close friendship between Kaidan and Ashley (if there was any) in that section. Also that Virmire mission is the very content for those who don't care for romances at all.

Thanks for your feedback

Modifié par CptData, 09 juillet 2012 - 06:16 .

[Fault Girl]

I would support any VS related DLC, I know we were lucky compared to the ME2 'mancers in what we got in ME3 but I would have liked more content. For me personally it felt that after the romance was resolved after the coup there was nothing else until end game, romance wise.

I just really want more in depth conversations, just half of Kaidan's convo's glitch for me so kinda meh. (but then thats more of a game problem than romance)

[NRieh]

A new player who starts to play the series with ME3 won't go after Kaidan or Ashley

ho-ho-ho. And whom, excuse me, are going to romance female Shepards who start to play series with ME3?..They do have a vast number of options, don't they?.. Ah, I forgot - they also have Allers and Traynor, yeah. Bad luck, I'd say.

"Inviting the VS" - it's not a "creepy tamagotchi feature", it's more or less an idea to add a special feeling of a romance.

It is, unfortunately. I've missed this thing in ME2 as well (as faithful femshep), but I see how it works in DA:O now (and I suppose that's where it comes from). It does not add anything. But, yes, you may have kiss with same set phrase (not too smart) and\\or kiss + black screen as "something more then kiss". You may do so as much as you wish. Just sit and click and... enjoy. I hope they'll never do it with ME3, and I'm glad I did not have an opportunity to click-love Kaidan in ME2. Minigames (like poker) look much less awful. But I'm that's a vocal minority, I know. Most of people loved evac, after all... because, you know...that look...

[CptData]

Updated OP.

Fixed:
- moved focus a bit to more generic content (still quite focused on romantic content)
- replaced the "invite VS feature" with a one-time invitation dialogue, similar to Vega, Traynor & co.
- that feature also replaces the "reward dialogue" for faithful players (see OP)
- added link to Virmire mission posting

Any more suggestions?

[Mimitochan]

Thank you so much for answering point by point OP. I didn't mean to, ah, object systematically to the ideas you took the time and effort to express here, it's just that I've seen these elswewhere repeatedly, and it made my skin crawl, sorry, hardcore Kaidan fan here

So, I'm glad you weren't offended, and I'd be happy to discuss this further, if you think this might be useful in some sort of ah... Ash/Kaidan DLC dynamics.

CptData wrote...

So you can't say "it's their loss" - since they simply don't see it as one. Technically, if you're a straight player, only male!Shepard gets a fully developed straight romance option, which is Liara. Ashley has nothing to get you hooked. And fem!Shep lacks a straight romance with a properly designed romance arc, since Kaidan lacks a fully developed build up sequence as well.

Ahah, you're being very thoughtful here, and well, all the credits to you. What I meant here is that, unfortunately, I feel that BW did not show the love Ashley and Kaidan deserved, I feel Ashley and Kaidan are about on the same boat. When I say "it's their loss", I mean that BW made it so that newbies didn't need to have a full romance arc for those characters. Have them more probably killed just because you didn't romance them from ME1, that's just... horrible! Don't forget about ME2, they purposedly offered new romance options for ME2 newbies, and look what happened to all those poor lost souls (I mean LIs)... If you ask players who romanced Kaidan as maleShep, they might tell you differently than myself though (femShep here). But I don't want to talk in their name, all I can say is that the evac scene seemed to properly complete the romance arc for them. So, since BW thought it was proper to do so in the first place, as I said, if they ever are going to allocate some ressources in there, and also, given the fact that there may be other simultaneous DLC in the making for other love interests, I'll just say, let them give something special for faithful romancers, that's all. I'm being obviously very egoistic here, but hey, no shame
I suppose that would ah... support your idea about faithful romancer exclusive contents.

And the "move in permanently feature" is ... well, it's based on a question Ashley asked in the original script before it got cut. If romanced, she awkwardly asks Shepard if it's okay to move in his cabin. Somehow that line got removed. The current status is: Ashley and Kaidan hang out on the observatory deck and you have no idea if she or he lives with Shepard or not. It's up to you to decide that, but I rather have an option to make it "official".
Besides that: if we're talking about a military ship, Spectre or not, no romance should happen then *g*

Sorry, just a heavy past of dialogues with Kaidan about fraternization rules here.
Obviously, none of this should have happened according to these, you're absolutely right.
If this is something that was hinted through Ashley dialogues, then OK, makes sense.
But Kaidan... not so much, in my opinion at least. The "official" thing, not a real fan of this. 
But for other cutscenes / dialogues to happen here, absolutely!
 
So, let's jus move on to some positive contents on the contrary.
Random "safe" thoughts about this at the moment, about possible DLC contents >

> "translate" current existing banter on the Normandy into actual cutscenes with dialogue options: what I like about this is that you can build on existing contents, without breaking them, make them available for romancing or non romancing players,
> additional appearances? Not very original, but always enjoyable.
> as I said, a "twin" mission for both Ash and Kaidan, but with a very specific flavour depending on which character you choose to play,
> it's been said before, but yes, Kaidan biotic abilities actually in practice!!! He's supposed to be that oh so powerful biotic, but we never get to see his powers in action,
> some mission centered around Kaidan / Ashley personal history, for Kaidan, maybe about his students, or his mother, whatever.

Here goes, thanks for hearing this  

[garrusfan1]

iakus wrote...

I approve of anything that gives Ash more dialogue

YES

[CptData]

Mimitochan: I used some of my time to update the OP.

And your new posting:
Not much to add here, except for the very last part:

The option to allow Ash/Kaidan to move in should be available at a very late point of the game, but before the romantic climax scene. Which pretty much means right after either Thessia or Sanctuary. In that case it wouldn't feel that much "out of the blue" if Ash/Kaidan enter Shepard's cabin. They're simply used to come in at any given time.

Hell, we could go that far and say, Ashley accepts the offer and Kaidan refuses it at first, trying to keep a minimum of protocol, finally realizing they could see their last days together. Means: it may take a bit longer for Kaidan to give up the protocol. Maybe it feels more in character then? I'm no expert for Kaidan, after all. *g*
Ashley on the other hand asked in the original script if it's okay to move in, so I think she'll do as soon as Shepard gives her that offer.

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> "translate" current existing banter on the Normandy into actual cutscenes with dialogue options: what I like about this is that you can build on existing contents, without breaking them, make them available for romancing or non romancing players

Maybe too much work, especially if the player is granted additional options.
I think "Zaeed style" is okay, but it should come a) in different flavors, depending on your relationship with Ash/Kaidan (neutral/friendly/romanced) and with more lines regarding the last mission.

> additional appearances? Not very original, but always enjoyable.

In that case, I want the bun back for Ashley. Her default appearance should be with the bun, while she only gets open hair in any off-duty and romantic scenes.

> as I said, a "twin" mission for both Ash and Kaidan, but with a very specific flavour depending on which character you choose to play,

For now, I'd like to go into details for the Virmire mission. Maybe we can talk about a subsequent mission designed for each of the characters.

> it's been said before, but yes, Kaidan biotic abilities actually in practice!!! He's supposed to be that oh so powerful biotic, but we never get to see his powers in action,

Not sure what to do with that, but if you tried to tell me "add more oomph" - then do it, BW ^^

> some mission centered around Kaidan / Ashley personal history, for Kaidan, maybe about his students, or his mother, whatever.

Look @ third point. Virmire should be for both, the following mission could be designed either for Ash or Kaidan.

[Mimitochan]

CptData wrote...

Means: it may take a bit longer for Kaidan to give up the protocol. Maybe it feels more in character then? I'm no expert for Kaidan, after all. *g*
Ashley on the other hand asked in the original script if it's okay to move in, so I think she'll do as soon as Shepard gives her that offer.

Damn right Kaidan's into protocol! But you know, I don't want to discuss too much about what Kaidan would or would not do, yes I know him, but I'm no writer.
If we're going into things that were hinted through dialogue though, and things that seemed to be missing, then there's this >
At the Citadel's date, femShep can choose to remain friends or rekindle her relationship with Kaidan.
After that, several banters on the Normandy take place.
Before Cerberus base, you've got a love scene. Same thing for Ash I suppose.

In one of the banters before Cerberus, Kaidan says "why didn't you wake me up?", which implies they actually reunited before the pre-Cerberus scene. So, if there's any scene missing here, that would be that one which is hinted there, the actual reunion scene. Sure, the Citadel date was nice, but it was just the common scene for all players, romancing or non romancing, ME1 romancers or not.

In that case, I want the bun back for Ashley. Her default appearance should be with the bun, while she only gets open hair in any off-duty and romantic scenes.

Honestly, I miss Ash's ME1 looks, and well.. obviously, I left her on Virmire, but still, she was so much more herself with the bun, low heels, you know, military look! ... If I were an Ash supporter, I would definitely ask for an alternate appearance, not meaning to stir old wounds here

Modifié par Mimitochan, 09 juillet 2012 - 09:35 .

[Spirit Keeper]

I think the idea of being able to move the love interest into Shepard's cabin it great. In fact most of the ideas are great. DLC with the Virmire survivor, more dialogue with them.

Bioware added extra lines in ME3 for Male Shepards that had romanced Kaidan in ME1, but they still left some blank lines in the game which seems odd. It would be great if they could get Meer to voice those missing lines and perhaps more recognition of the romance if they stayed faithful in 2.

I would also like to say the for the best version of the destroy ending it would be nice to see a clip or even another slide or Shepard and his/her romance in their home on Intai'sei if they finished Pinnical Station. It's about time Bioware put that DLC to some good use and to be honest that they didn't expand on the 'Shepard Lives' part in a DLC that was meant to 'clarify' the endinsg to us seems stupid. So it would be nice to get some closure on that and Shep at that point deserves to be happy.






Oh and for all the people out there like me who play a Male Shep and either romanced Kaidan or just don't like Ashley and are annoyed that the extended cut art work only has Kaidan on the FemShep picture here.



Sexy Kaidan for all

Modifié par SovereignSRV, 10 juillet 2012 - 03:20 .

[d1ta]

In support of more option XD (friend vs mance, move in vs not move in, etc) since it gives more player control on how they want to interact with said character (and not just romance wise). As in some players might stick to protocols and some don't, since each Shepard is different But what ever they intend to do with the squaddies, I'm hoping that they would still stay in character.

One thing in mind though, if the "Romance DLC" ever gets out and let's say Shep gets the option to ask character 'A' to move in / call up to cabin while character 'B' and 'C' doesn't, I'm betting the forums here would just explode XD

As for me personally, I just support what ever it is that will add more content / player freedom / optional path to the game.

[NRieh]

> as I said, a "twin" mission for both Ash and Kaidan, but with a very specific flavour depending on which character you choose to play,
> it's been said before, but yes, Kaidan biotic abilities actually in practice!!! He's supposed to be that oh so powerful biotic, but we never get to see his powers in action,

I'm afraid, it's either former or latter. If they do it "twin" style - you'll get another...VS-cut with shared animations and role\\plot. And, to be honest, I can't picture a mission in which each of them will be important and yet -interchangeble.

I don't like Virmire-related mission ideas (which, probably, seems obvious to someone, I think I've seen it mentioned either here or in another thread). Let past stay past. That's not something any of survived ones will ever forget. Kaidan and Shepard do not need to go to Virmire to remember things. It won't add more depth to that loss.

And one DLC is too small for 2 different full-scale missions, I'm afraid. We have 2gb limit, LOtSB was about 1.5gb, and I would not call it too huge - just fine for 1 story-driven mission.

2 full-scale DLCs to chose from would be an option, but I doubt they ever do it, as if they do and take money for each - players will revolt, if they charge for it once and let you have both - they will do double job for same money. I'd be glad to pay for Kaidan-specific DLC, but that's just me.

"translate" current existing banter on the Normandy into actual cutscenes with dialogue options

This, please!!!

But, once again - too much job to do. And it (actually) should have been done from the very start. It does not feel like $$ add-on to me, it's much same as selling "proper working mission log" or "ME2 face import pack" in a separate DLC. But hell, yeah, it would be nice. But that's ill trend, to sell bad things and to charge for fixes.

[Mimitochan]

Nrieh wrote...

I'm afraid, it's either former or latter. If they do it "twin" style - you'll get another...VS-cut with shared animations and roleplot. And, to be honest, I can't picture a mission in which each of them will be important and yet -interchangeble.

Yes, I agree about the plot being difficult to be shared by both characters. What I find interesting here is the custom resolution of a specific situation, depending whether you play as Ash or Kaidan. What kind of situations might that be, I don't know, it could be combat, it could be some other sort of confontration, it could be dialogues. Let's imagine some sort of "neutral" Spectre assignment (I guess Ash is one too), that wouldn't be character-centered, I would find it enjoyable to see specific problems solved in different styles, Ash-style, or Kaidan-style (biotics obviously, but also discipline and conciliation).

I don't like Virmire-related mission ideas (which, probably, seems obvious to someone, I think I've seen it mentioned either here or in another thread). Let past stay past. That's not something any of survived ones will ever forget. Kaidan and Shepard do not need to go to Virmire to remember things. It won't add more depth to that loss.

Yes, I agree, but hey, that's OP's choice
Let's just totally leave Virmire behind IMO, no need to stir all this up, let's go for something fresh.

I'd be glad to pay for Kaidan-specific DLC, but that's just me.

I hear you. But since this is a Kaidan & Ashley thread...

"translate" current existing banter on the Normandy into actual cutscenes with dialogue options

This, please!!!

But, once again - too much job to do. And it (actually) should have been done from the very start. It does not feel like $$ add-on to me, it's much same as selling "proper working mission log" or "ME2 face import pack" in a separate DLC. But hell, yeah, it would be nice. But that's ill trend, to sell bad things and to charge for fixes.

Mmmh... i don't see it as something that ought to have been there in the first place. It's just some choices they had to make to balance budget, romance mechanics and screentime. I'm much more annoyed by the lack of customization for the romance arc (number and contents of said scenes),  depending on your relationship with Alenko (romance, non romance, faithful, etc.).
 
Also, it depends on what we are willing to pay for that kind of contents. As I said, I'm really uneasy on this... 

[NRieh]

Let's imagine some sort of "neutral" Spectre assignment (I guess Ash is one too), that wouldn't be character-centered, I would find it enjoyable to see specific problems solved in different styles, Ash-style, or Kaidan-style (biotics obviously, but also discipline and conciliation).

And thats' an interesting idea. Citadel-based, probably (no normandy and\\or squad involved) But I see this only happening pre-coup (between checking out from huerta and coup). Because after coup plot is already too dense. Which means no romances locked and no confirmed relations. Which does looks good and interesting, by the way. If only they don't make more "You're-with-cerberus-tell-me-I-know-this" lines, heh.

Most of DLCs can be bought&played anytime and are off main story, I know that . And "legacy teleport" confirms that ....It's like "you just died to save the galaxy? Now buy a DLC and try again".

But here's another reason for Kaidan (or Ashley)-specific DLC to be before coup. You know, that they can not survive, yes? How could BW make $$ DLC which is not avalible to some (probably, big) part of players? They got stats, you know... They know how many of us saved whom, what choices are made etc...in case you did not remove that little tick in your options.

And now as I think of it - I suppose that makes our chances for "mortal" character DLC, who does not wear Liara's plot- armor, very-very subtle... Especially, for more then one and sharacter-specific....But hope springs eternal, huh?

[CptData]

The entire Virmire mission could play differently with Kaidan and Ashley. But I know what you'd like to see, Nrieh - one specially designed mission for each. One for Kaidan and one for Ashley.

Well, in that case, I'd like to know what you want to do for Kaidan? Suggestions are welcome here, and maybe it's possible to do so. However, I don't think that special mission should only be available for Kaidan or Ashley, otherwise, people won't buy the DLC if they can't play the missions without those characters.

Difficult to find a good way here. We just can try it.

[Mimitochan]

Mmmh, what about Spectre exclusives? Both Ash & Kaidan are Spectres. And Shepard is one too. I know I'd love to actually see Kaidan acting spectre. Even better, Kaidan & Shepard acting spectres, I mean as a pair. You never get to actually witness that in-game.

What about a "Spectre pack"?
Maybe some extra features to add at the Spectre Requisitions over the Citadel? I quite like that room in ME3, but I always felt they hadn't exploited it enough.
It could be some new exclusive items available at the terminal.
Or maybe new intelligence. I heard that from Shadow Broker you got all these interesting files about all characters but none about Ash nor Kaidan.

Or maybe a cell where you can practice biotic or tech abilities? This way, it would be interesting for more players than just Ash & Kaidan fans.

@CptData By the way, what's that blue catsuit supposed to be? From what I saw, Ash is wearing this at the opening scene? Why isn't she wearing a uniform?

Modifié par Mimitochan, 10 juillet 2012 - 01:09 .