I have a few questions about Gray Wardens and passing on the taint to possible offspring. I apologize, some of this may have been answered in the game. I played it in the wee hours of the morning a lot so some things are hazy.
Are Gray Wardens able to have children? I could have sworn Alistair said they couldn't, yet he's talking about needing an heir later on when he dumps you. Does the no kids rule just apply to female wardens? Or is not that they cannot have kids but that they shouldn't?
I figure the dark ritual thingie could be an exception regardless.
Passing on the taint?
Débuté par
ashez2ashes
, déc. 16 2009 04:46
#1
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 04:46
#2
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 04:48
I think all he said was that it was difficult for Grey Wardens to have children, not impossible.
#3
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 04:49
There is stated somewhere (either by devs or in one of the books) that Grey Wardens can have offspring, but that it is very rare. Combining two Grey Wardens makes the chance of course even less. I do not know about the tainted part though, and I'm equally curious about it.
#4
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:00
That was one of my main reasons not to make Alistair king. If the heir to the throne is born with the equivalent to magical aids, you're just asking to throw the country into turmoil.
Seems kind of weird this wasn't questioned very much.
Seems kind of weird this wasn't questioned very much.
#5
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:11
Meh, if you put Alistair on the throne at least there's a chance of continuing the line. Anora didn't have any kids, either, and it was rumored (though not proven) that she was barren. Either way there's going to be another cluster**** when whoever's on the throne kicks the bucket ^^
#6
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:13
Well Anora's husband could have been shooting blanks I guess. At least if she could have kids there would be no fears that said kids might turn into ghouls before they get their first chest hair. lol
#7
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:15
Actually, I don't think Grey Wardens would have ghoul kids. Wouldn't they just have Grey Warden kids instead? The thing with Grey Wardens is that they can resist the ghoul-thingy, isn't it? >.>
#8
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:17
I do remember having read somewhere that Grey Warden babies are traditionally given to the Chantry. I wouldn't think the wardens would do that if the kids are tainted. It would be outright cruel.
#9
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:18
The only source that a Warden's children would have the taint, is when Morrigan explains the dark ritual. I cannot find any other source of it in the game.
#10
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:18
eschilde wrote...
Actually, I don't think Grey Wardens would have ghoul kids. Wouldn't they just have Grey Warden kids instead? The thing with Grey Wardens is that they can resist the ghoul-thingy, isn't it? >.>
Resist temporarily. They are definitely not immune.
#11
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 07:39
Grey Wardens obviously can reproduce. If you choose to do the Dark Ritual at the end of the game, either the PC, Alistair, or Loghain gets Morrigan pregnant.
Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 16 décembre 2009 - 07:40 .
#12
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 07:47
The offspring of a Grey Warden and a normal human creates a half-breed called a Daywalker...duh
#13
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 08:15
It's also discussed if you follow the Alistair romance, make him king, and do not become his queen. It's when he dumps you.
#14
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 08:19
It'd be interesting if the sequel of DA:O would allow the PC to be the offspring of Alistar/PC with some kind of darkspawn power.
And perhaps the origin story of the sequel would be affected by how the first DA ended?
And perhaps the origin story of the sequel would be affected by how the first DA ended?
#15
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 08:27
[Edit] Sorry.
Modifié par Catt128, 16 décembre 2009 - 08:27 .
#16
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 08:38
Well according to Morrigan a child with the taint can survive the Archdemon's soul transferance while an adult can't so they can probably handle the taint better. Maybe a tainted child would be a Grey Warden with a normal lifespan or 60 year lifespan or something like that.
#17
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 09:10
buzerunn wrote...
It'd be interesting if the sequel of DA:O would allow the PC to be the offspring of Alistar/PC with some kind of darkspawn power.
And perhaps the origin story of the sequel would be affected by how the first DA ended?
NO NO!!! PLEASE NO!!
Sorry, I want to continue my characters story before thinking of something crazy like this.
About the offspring, I don't think the taint is passed into the child normally, it was part of Morrigan's ritual. The ritual would suck out part of the taint or something:devil: where a normal offspring from just regular sex would not. (just my thought, probably wrong)
#18
Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 09:53
From what I gathered though, Grey Wardens could have children normally, but Grey Wardens were loathe to do it personally because of their responsibilities, and because they spend the last years of their 30year odd taint battling darkspawn underground, which I'm sure everyone would agree would not be the ideal place to raise children.
If you played a male character, even if you refused the ritual with morrigan at the end, but you did sleep with her throughout the game itself at some point then when she leaves for the Frostback Mountains in the epilogue it's said that she was with your child anyway conceived but not... ritualised.
Also, I agree with Eon, I hope any DA sequel will let me continue this character, otherwise I'd feel there is no point to him (...her)!
If you played a male character, even if you refused the ritual with morrigan at the end, but you did sleep with her throughout the game itself at some point then when she leaves for the Frostback Mountains in the epilogue it's said that she was with your child anyway conceived but not... ritualised.
Also, I agree with Eon, I hope any DA sequel will let me continue this character, otherwise I'd feel there is no point to him (...her)!
Modifié par Arijharn, 16 décembre 2009 - 09:54 .





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