Can the Seekers of Truth have other races join them?
#1
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 02:29
#2
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 03:01
Everyone seeks truth I guess.
#3
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 03:17
So I guess other races can join them. I don't think mages can though. The Seekers of Truth manage the templars and answer to The Divine, so it would be blasphemy - according to The White Chantry anyways - to have mages managing the templars.
#4
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 03:23
#5
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 03:41
#6
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 03:49
Foopydoopydoo wrote...
The Seekers are part of the Chantry right? And I know the Chantry at least prohibits elves from joining the clergy, I dunno about the more militaristic parts of it though. Dwarves, haven't seen any but I don't really know why not if they worship Andraste.
There is a dwarf Chantry brother in DA:O, you can help him in setup up a "temple" in Ozammar. This mean the Chantry doesn't stop other races from joining, they probably aren't converted easily to the Chant of Light though.
As for the Seekers, they had/have an aggreement with the Chantry since 1:20. Everything point to it being broken in 9:40. Some part of the lore suggest that they are just Templars with more privileges and that both group formed out of the Inquisition. Some other lore suggest they were created by the Chantry. I suspect both these "historical" facts are wrong though.
#7
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 03:50
Foopydoopydoo wrote...
The Seekers are part of the Chantry right? And I know the Chantry at least prohibits elves from joining the clergy, I dunno about the more militaristic parts of it though. Dwarves, haven't seen any but I don't really know why not if they worship Andraste. And the Qunari pic boggles me because the Chantry has had a few Exalted Marches against them so I don't really see them being able to join the elusive Seekers.
If they're dedicated to The Maker, why not? Besides, The Seekers need all the help they can get now what with The Chantry in shatters and the mages jumping around and shooting at everyone.
#8
Posté 06 juillet 2012 - 06:48
Seekers are pro-chantry faction, which delibertly oppose and oppresses elves(remember they even removed any mention of them from the chants and ordered exalted marches on them). So elves definitely NO.
Qunari? Seriously how dumb that would be? I don't know when was that picture made, the Elthon Jhon linked - but definitely no Qunari.
Dwarfs - there is just one priest in Orzamar, with small temple, and even THAT is but Optional (and i am not sure if that variable got transfered, i think it didn't). So Dwarfs - "could be" possible, at least due to them being more likely an allies of the chantry(due to Lyrium market).
Humans are the only race that should be Seekers (with maybe that exception of dwarf).
I don't know about any other sentient race, that could work with them.
#9
Posté 08 juillet 2012 - 02:38
#10
Posté 08 juillet 2012 - 02:48
In Holy Wars, you don't refuse members of the opposing religion converting to yours. In fact, you'd think the Chantry would make a point of showing everyone how a Kossith has embraced the Maker.Chaos Lord Malek wrote...
Qunari? Seriously how dumb that would be? I don't know when was that picture made, the Elthon Jhon linked - but definitely no Qunari.
Modifié par MisterJB, 08 juillet 2012 - 02:49 .
#11
Posté 08 juillet 2012 - 03:16
#12
Posté 08 juillet 2012 - 03:29
Do the seekers have spies?
I would say yes , they look a bit like a special secret order.
I guess there's no "official " elves , kossith etc seekers ...but maybe they have some people from different races for "special" mission.
Afterall , the Divine sent Wynne , a mage, to do secret research....
#13
Posté 08 juillet 2012 - 04:19
Chaos Lord Malek wrote...
Qunari? Seriously how dumb that would be? I don't know when was that picture made, the Elthon Jhon linked - but definitely no Qunari.
Qunari =/= Kossith.
Qunari is an all-encompassing term for people that follow the Qun. A Kossith that serves the Chantry and possibly believes in the Maker is, by default, not Qunari.
revan11exile wrote...
Can Kossith even join the chantry?
I don't see why not. Brother Burkel was a Dwarf and he could join the Chantry. That concept art of the Kossith Seeker implies that Bioware considers it a possible scenario to do.
Chaos Lord Malek wrote...
Seekers are pro-chantry faction, which delibertly oppose and oppresses elves(remember they even removed any mention of them from the chants and ordered exalted marches on them). So elves definitely NO.
That's a very narrow outlook on the entire organization, especially in light of the current situation of the setting. As such, I find it to also be an outlook that's wrong.
I highly recommend reading this thread from beginning to end -- mainly posts made by Silfren and myself -- to understand how being a Seeker is not as restricted as people would like to make it out to be.
Elton John is dead wrote...
So I guess other races can join them. I don't think mages can though. The Seekers of Truth manage the templars and answer to The Divine, so it would be blasphemy - according to The White Chantry anyways - to have mages managing the templars.
If that ever was a rule, then the moment the Templars/Seekers declared the Nevarran Accord null and void, discussed assassinating Justinia V for someone that was more malleable to their interests, and the Mages revolted was the moment that rule ceased to apply.
Under Justinia V and in light of the situation that Thedas is in right now, I can easily see a Mage becoming a Seeker now.
Justinia V wants peace between the two sides. Who would the Mages listen to more? A non-Mage or a Mage with direct authority over the Templars and can weed out the oppressors from the true Templars?
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 juillet 2012 - 04:23 .
#14
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 09:49
Oh i forgot that the Divine had Wynne on missions research in the Asunder bookReznore57 wrote...
I guess it depends.
Do the seekers have spies?
I would say yes , they look a bit like a special secret order.
I guess there's no "official " elves , kossith etc seekers ...but maybe they have some people from different races for "special" mission.
Afterall , the Divine sent Wynne , a mage, to do secret research....
#15
Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:16
Guys, it's concept art. A lot can change between doodles and game time.
I highly recommend not bothering with that thread. The only logical arguments are made by those who oppose the idea of a seeker protagonist.
Modifié par berelinde, 09 juillet 2012 - 10:18 .
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Posté 09 juillet 2012 - 10:20





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